Guardians reliever Emmanuel Clase placed on paid leave amid MLB's sports betting inve

[fulltritty]

Guardians reliever Emmanuel Clase placed on paid leave amid MLB's sports betting investigation

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/g...investigation/

[Bosoxfan5990]

These guys are idiots.

[boxbuster7]

wow...out for a month

[NYRE2PECT]

Won't be the last...it's too prevalent now.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Won't be the last...it's too prevalent now.

I'm not sure it's any different than it was before.

The difference is they're able to track trends and data with legalized betting, compared to having to do undercover stings with your local bookie...

[NYBBFAN]

RIP my fantasy team.

[Soxrule111]

Not to defend him as I didnt read the information.

I do feel bad that they can be suspended for betting on other sports if they use the apps at the team location. I dont think they should be suspended in those instances, but I also have no problem with a clear hard line.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

I'm not sure it's any different than it was before.

The difference is they're able to track trends and data with legalized betting, compared to having to do undercover stings with your local bookie...

Actually it is because now there's instant betting / prop bets on next pitches. Previously there was a several hour delay between bet and result. Nobody was taking action that so and so would throw certain pitches.

[Archangel1775]

The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets. Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.

[awz50]

Silly.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets. Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.

The legal ones already take advantage of them. They have a huge vig on prop aka sucker bets.

[seanbros55]

I bet this was from 2023 when I drafted him in the fourth round and he SUCKED to start the season, and I ended up dropping him in June and then he was NASTY for the rest of the year.

[fulltritty]

More information on ESPN's article. The Guardians don't expect anyone else to be impacted.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...gambling-probe

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets. Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.

All these dumb prop bets used to have a very low limits. Why legalized books wouldn't have low limits in place for this stuff makes no sense. It should basically be irrelevant if it's fixed or not when the most you can win is a few hundred bucks. Anything that you could get inside info on, wrestling, award shows, whats happening in a movie or tv show, bizarre props, props on non elite players, etc. Most of those were capped at $50-$100. It's been so long but when they used to allow you to bet in football what the next play would be run or pass again something with a very low limit. Even when I wanted to bet Kobe's points in his last game I don't think you could bet anything more than a few hundred bucks. Why these books would be dumb enough to take thousands of dollars of wagers from one person on a next pitch or some type of pitcher prop is just stupid.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Am I the only one that doesn't care if gamblers get cheated?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Am I the only one that doesn't care if gamblers get cheated?

I don't think the concern is that gamblers get cheated. It's that players are fixing the outcomes of games.

[JRX]

The leagues are actively promoting in game wagering, what did they think would happen.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Not to defend him as I didnt read the information.

I do feel bad that they can be suspended for betting on other sports if they use the apps at the team location. I dont think they should be suspended in those instances, but I also have no problem with a clear hard line.

The problem is that ANY type of gambling debt make you vulnerable.....doesn't make a difference what sport the debt is from.

If player A loses 100K betting on the NFL, and his bookie says that he will clear the debt if the player hits the batter with the first pitch he throws or if he attempts to bunt on the first pitch he sees as a hitter, then the player has negatively impacted the integrity of the game.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by JRX

The leagues are actively promoting in game wagering, what did they think would happen.

Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.

[asujbl]

I don’t believe it. He doesn’t even play for the Browns

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.

People don't only do bad things if they are poor or need money.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.

He's not making 20M

[mrmojorisin71]

Of course this is how the Yankees got to the WS FINALLY. Clase serving em up ��������

[Promethius88]

What if pro athletes are participating in card breaks? Is that considered gambling in the eyes of leagues yet?

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by JRX

He's not making 20M

Emmanuel Clase signed a five-year, $20,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Guardians on April 2, 2022, which included a $2,000,000 signing bonus.

Not that it even matters. They promote alcohol at games too but we aren't worried about closers showing up drunk in the 9th inning. It's such a poor excuse to use.