Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[jasonm2121]

Sure glad sold CT when did, thing has been beaten like no other (for no performance dip or bust type scenario), it just became too frequent of a sale for a great card since 2021-22

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The comparison is that there are people willing to pay more for a high grade 2013 than a low grade 2000.

It is what it is


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Definitely an extreme example, since he has tons of rookie cards for less than $1,000 lol

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Sure glad sold CT when did, thing has been beaten like no other (for no performance dip or bust type scenario), it just became too frequent of a sale for a great card since 2021-22

Going to buy another one? If you made an insane profit and prices are “low” now compared to then

[jasonm2121]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Going to buy another one? If you made an insane profit and prices are “low” now compared to then

Thought about it, no rush, another one is coming up again lol

[TeeBee12]

Originally Posted by tjforce

IDK man, a lot of cards going for 6 figures recently.



But Yeah, $100k+ cards aren't for everyone. But it is where the market is headed. This might interest a few people:

Another solid key insert sale. I think the overwhelming plethora of Brady rookies coupled with the fact that most of the iconic ones already have your average Joe priced out will ultimately push Brady collectors towards the hobby staples, inserts & color matches. The trickle down effect from this gold to silvers, blues, ‘14 colors and so forth is kicking in as I type. There’s already an established base of Brady collectors doing base refractor, prizm silver and even gold refractors /50, etc. That list will only continue to grow vs a rush of collectors who have little to no chance to ever complete the base rookie run, yet alone the full list. And nothing but respect towards davey for even trying such a feat, yet the fact he’s at near completion.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

And Brady also said he was retired lol.

His playing style seems fine for longevity, he’s not like Lamar or Allen with often designed runs. He has plenty left. He’ll pass Brady in lots of big categories, except rings. Can’t see him falling off any time soon really. As long as he’s healthy, high chance they win the division

it is not designed runs, but freelancing/off play scrambling. Mahomes is not a good pocket passer. he is better throwing out of the pocket, as a play/defense breaks down. his mechanics/accuracy are not all time great level as a pocket passer.

as his natural athletic ability decreases with age, his ability to escape pressure/the pocket will also decrease. He will either need to fix those mechanics or his numbers will decrease. and probably quite a bit.

Mahomes can rocket passes on the run and make amazing plays when the pocket breaks down, but I notice that when he has time, he is often sailing passes over recievers heads or leading too much. This is telling me that his mechanics/repeatablility are not great. He is relying on athletic ability too much.

[daveyc1]

wow, that gold prizm was a VERY impressive sale!! It may not be my cup of tea, but I am sure the buyer is over the moon! (also the seller)

[daveyc1]

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

Pop 2. Not my cup of tea but if there are three people that want one, there are only so many to go around. That's all it takes in an auction. If another 10 gets graded, it could go higher or half that. Just depends on how many people want one.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

it is not designed runs, but freelancing/off play scrambling. Mahomes is not a good pocket passer. he is better throwing out of the pocket, as a play/defense breaks down. his mechanics/accuracy are not all time great level as a pocket passer.

as his natural athletic ability decreases with age, his ability to escape pressure/the pocket will also decrease. He will either need to fix those mechanics or his numbers will decrease. and probably quite a bit.

Mahomes can rocket passes on the run and make amazing plays when the pocket breaks down, but I notice that when he has time, he is often sailing passes over recievers heads or leading too much. This is telling me that his mechanics/repeatablility are not great. He is relying on athletic ability too much.

Time will tell! Other than Kelce, his actual wr’s have been bad other than when he had Hill. Not a good pocket passer? Lol. Critiquing him when no or has done what he has at his age

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

Out at all the people in the world, we don’t know the bidders/buyers lol. Some rich guy just wanted it, at that price it’s someone where money doesn’t matter

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Time will tell! Other than Kelce, his actual wr’s have been bad other than when he had Hill. Not a good pocket passer? Lol. Critiquing him when no or has done what he has at his age

watch all the easy passes he misses because of poor technique/footwork. guys like Marino or Brady had to be fundamentally perfect to excel because they lacked the pure athleticism.

He is MUCH more effective when he scrambles and the defense breaks down. when he loses a step or two with age, that ability will diminish.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Out at all the people in the world, we don’t know the bidders/buyers lol. Some rich guy just wanted it, at that price it’s someone where money doesn’t matter

I think you are probably right. we put lots of thought into purchases, but the wealthiest can make impulse buys of items that cost this much.

[Seahawks fan]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

$160K is crazy. Raw back in 2013 I'm not even sure that is a $100 card.

[Jbead61]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

it is not designed runs, but freelancing/off play scrambling. Mahomes is not a good pocket passer. he is better throwing out of the pocket, as a play/defense breaks down. his mechanics/accuracy are not all time great level as a pocket passer.

as his natural athletic ability decreases with age, his ability to escape pressure/the pocket will also decrease. He will either need to fix those mechanics or his numbers will decrease. and probably quite a bit.

Mahomes can rocket passes on the run and make amazing plays when the pocket breaks down, but I notice that when he has time, he is often sailing passes over recievers heads or leading too much. This is telling me that his mechanics/repeatablility are not great. He is relying on athletic ability too much.

Not many people responded to your post but I think you were spot on. He turns 30 next month and the next five years will be interesting for him. He could be headed for a dark era and long dry spell for Super Bowl appearances after this year. They don’t win it this year, the team will be quite fragmented. I don’t care what others say, he does not have the drive and mental fortitude Tom Brady had.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

The market has jumped on all early year Prizms. A Jay Cutler 1/1 just sold for $12k. Jay Cutler.

This $160k is just a fraction of what's being offered for Brady's 2012 Gold.

The 2013 went for that much because it's the next best thing when a 2012 isnt available.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Jbead61

Not many people responded to your post but I think you were spot on. He turns 30 next month and the next five years will be interesting for him. He could be headed for a dark era and long dry spell for Super Bowl appearances after this year. They don’t win it this year, the team will be quite fragmented. I don’t care what others say, he does not have the drive and mental fortitude Tom Brady had.

Is 30 supposed to be old? That’s nothing for someone who takes care of themself

Brady went what, 10 years between rings at one point? Mahomes doesn’t have to win it this year lol he could get three more with the first being 4 years from now

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The market has jumped on all early year Prizms. A Jay Cutler 1/1 just sold for $12k. Jay Cutler.

This $160k is just a fraction of what's being offered for Brady's 2012 Gold.

The 2013 went for that much because it's the next best thing when a 2012 isnt available.

Why is that brand specifically so much? People talk about his first year prizm (2012?) as a main reason for the high price, along with grade and low serial number typically. But what about his first year…. in the nfl lol

Just seems like it’s rich people and the average person will never have to worry about it/be able to buy one. $12k for Jay cutler says it all lol just because it’s prizm?! People buy the brand only is just new to me. I thought it was all about the accomplishments.

So if there was a prizm, say high grade and low serial number, of a player who never did anything, like Jay cutler, it would still sell for a lot? Obviously Cutler but others too?

What would those specifics mean sales wise for Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan, etc

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Is 30 supposed to be old? That’s nothing for someone who takes care of themself

Brady went what, 10 years between rings at one point? Mahomes doesn’t have to win it this year lol he could get three more with the first being 4 years from now

for a QB in the NFL who often runs with the ball, yes, Mahomes will be on the wrong side of 30 starting this year. and yes, 30 is the begining of when wear, tear and age will start creeping in.

Brady was a very different type of QB. running was not a part of his game. decreasing athleticism/speed was not a major factor for him

[TeeBee12]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I wonder why 2013 prizm gold went for such a high price? is it because of the year, picture? is it because it was the only one for sale?

does something make 2013 more impressive, striking, desireabe than say 2012 or 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 etc. and so on?

I will say that the overall quality of the 2013 prizm run might play a small role subliminally. Of all years, I’d put 2013s at the “Tiffany” end of the spectrum. The budget for lacquer coats in ‘13 was of no concern to the suits, if ya pick up what I’m putting down. And those small, interior, unobstructed, flat side borders along the middle really blind ya in hand that scans can never truly convey online.

If it were the 80’s, stockbrokers would be doing the devils dandruff off of the silvers. They are that clean. Catalina Wine-mixer’s Best in Show. It’s like panini actually cared that year with their sophomore release>Select inaugural. ‘14 was solid but started going crazy with an influx of colors & parallels….and then it started to evolve into sheet show it is today.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

for a QB in the NFL who often runs with the ball, yes, Mahomes will be on the wrong side of 30 starting this year. and yes, 30 is the begining of when wear, tear and age will start creeping in.

Brady was a very different type of QB. running was not a part of his game. decreasing athleticism/speed was not a major factor for him

We’ll see! I have some friends who say things like “it sucks getting old”, and they’re in their 20’s and 30’s, just seems so young still. I’ll believe it when I see it but he looks as good as ever, most recent game being the SB lol idk what else he’s supposed to do. Other than Kelce and hill, who has he had his whole career so far? No one really, which is insane

[TeeBee12]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I think you are probably right. we put lots of thought into purchases, but the wealthiest can make impulse buys of items that cost this much.

You would be very surprised how high-end cards are now seen as solid investments similar to artwork, horses by serious finance managers. Extremely easy to own, move around and liquidating is usually much quicker and reliable to property, art, cars, etc. and all that stuff requires monthly insurance and upkeep. And of all the categories that auction houses deal in, only sport card consignments actually pay you an EXTRA 8-10% of the buyers premium as opposed to being charged. That’s a huge swing. Plus it’s apparently cool these days.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by TeeBee12

You would be very surprised how high-end cards are now seen as solid investments similar to artwork, horses by serious finance managers. Extremely easy to own, move around and liquidating is usually much quicker and reliable to property, art, cars, etc. and all that stuff requires monthly insurance and upkeep. And of all the categories that auction houses deal in, only sport card consignments actually pay you an EXTRA 8-10% of the buyers premium as opposed to being charged. That’s a huge swing. Plus it’s apparently cool these days.

good points! and for some reason, sports cards do seem to be the cool, ¨in thing¨ at the moment. celebrities seem to be getting into the game as well.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

for a QB in the NFL who often runs with the ball, yes, Mahomes will be on the wrong side of 30 starting this year. and yes, 30 is the begining of when wear, tear and age will start creeping in.

Brady was a very different type of QB. running was not a part of his game. decreasing athleticism/speed was not a major factor for him

Tell that to Brian Urlacher.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The market has jumped on all early year Prizms. A Jay Cutler 1/1 just sold for $12k. Jay Cutler.

This $160k is just a fraction of what's being offered for Brady's 2012 Gold.

The 2013 went for that much because it's the next best thing when a 2012 isnt available.

Yeah I don't see that as sustainable. I see that as bubble-mode stuff. If we could take the Delorean 20-30 years into the future I can't imagine 2012-2014 higher end parallels of Prizm being worth that much relative to what it's doing now.

A Michael Penix Jr 1/1 PSA 8 "Vertical Kaboom!" sold for 28k on Fanatics auction too. Jay Cutler at least was semi-famous and had some good years, Penix hasn't done anything. Prospecting. But odds are Cutler is better than Penix, both being non-desirable overall.

It's just so frothy and when we're talking con-man auction houses like Goldin/Heritage/Fanatics, etc, a lot of those sales aren't even real. They're fake. So it's so hard to say. Your infographic is shocking though, is that an ebay sale or the same Goldin house? 6.5, sure, but we're really going to pay more for a 2013 Gold Prizm out of 3000-5000+ total copies with parallel versions than a Champ ticket rookie? Comical to me.