Time to start prospecting Jasson Dominguez?

[Turnitin2004]

I never really prospect, but I enjoy the idea of it. Do people think now could be a time to buy his stuff? He's definitely got to be down quite a bit from his hype days, but still only 22. He could have a huge resurgence.

I've seen some of his insert autos going for under $75. Not looking to spend a ton of money, but figured I'd see if I was on the right path. If he had a big post season somehow could get a big price spike soon, and if not you would hold for hopefully a break out next year. Or do we think prices could still go down more. Just curious peoples opinions. Thanks.

[sheetskout]

I wish you well in this thread.

[fulltritty]

There's a lot of opinions on Dominguez in this thread.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...sson+Dominguez

[premium1981]

Buy him if you like him. Buying him to make money is a very steep uphill climb. For most young guys you get the early draft pick hype, the call up hype, and then the after-slump mlb spike. Beyond that its really hard to get big bumps. Jasson has already had all of those and he would have to turn into a legit beast to get hype back on any scale.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Buy him if you like him. Buying him to make money is a very steep uphill climb. For most young guys you get the early draft pick hype, the call up hype, and then the after-slump mlb spike. Beyond that its really hard to get big bumps. Jasson has already had all of those and he would have to turn into a legit beast to get hype back on any scale.

Agreed, he would need to be in an MVP race to get any further bump up. Just being a everyday "good" player and his prices will slowly keep falling.

[Turnitin2004]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Agreed, he would need to be in an MVP race to get any further bump up. Just being a everyday "good" player and his prices will slowly keep falling.

Interesting. So "post hype" players can't really ever be bought then is basically what you're saying? It's really just you have to buy them when they are 18 and sell them at call up?

He is still only 22, and they were talking about him as if he was going to be Mantle, so you have to think he ends up having at least 1 year where he's in the MVP race.

So basically Caglione would also be not worth it anymore?

[Turnitin2004]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

There's a lot of opinions on Dominguez in this thread.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...sson+Dominguez

Thanks. Im interested in just the general thoughts of prospecting as well, not just Jasson.

[smapdi]

As an MLB regular who lost the bloom off his rose several years ago, he really needs to produce at an all-star/MVP level for prices to go up. Especially on the Yankees, he would basically have to rival Judge in production and fan appeal. Granted, the market does have price memory for big prospects and having a great month or even a big game can make people remember him, but Jasson's 2020 prices were for his massive potential. He is now at the moment where he needs to actually meet that potential to keep the hobby from completely moving on. I'm not big on blaming the players for failing to live up to the hype, because it costs people nothing to hype someone up and if he comes up short, the player is blamed, not the people who set the bar incorrectly. But .257 with 9 homers as a regular player doesn't move the needle.

[Americards]

Put him back in center and he will do great things in the coming years.
I hate that Yankees upper management do not know how to utilize young players and they kill their progress...

[Turnitin2004]

Originally Posted by smapdi

As an MLB regular who lost the bloom off his rose several years ago, he really needs to produce at an all-star/MVP level for prices to go up. Especially on the Yankees, he would basically have to rival Judge in production and fan appeal. Granted, the market does have price memory for big prospects and having a great month or even a big game can make people remember him, but Jasson's 2020 prices were for his massive potential. He is now at the moment where he needs to actually meet that potential to keep the hobby from completely moving on. I'm not big on blaming the players for failing to live up to the hype, because it costs people nothing to hype someone up and if he comes up short, the player is blamed, not the people who set the bar incorrectly. But .257 with 9 homers as a regular player doesn't move the needle.

He's only 22 though. He's 2 years younger than Aaron Judge was when he debuted. Could it just be as simple as Dominguez isn't ready, but by the time he's 24 he could be great? Let's just say that happens. Would his cards rebound significantly or would it be too late?

[PDCCollectibles]

I feel like he over-shadowed Witt a few years back.....we now see who the correct player was to prospect. So many collectors rallied hard for JD over Witt at the time....from what I remember.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

Interesting. So "post hype" players can't really ever be bought then is basically what you're saying? It's really just you have to buy them when they are 18 and sell them at call up?

He is still only 22, and they were talking about him as if he was going to be Mantle, so you have to think he ends up having at least 1 year where he's in the MVP race.

So basically Caglione would also be not worth it anymore?

A) Call Up is almost always the peak.

B) There is always a chance. Dominguez can always be the exception, but what was stated above is the general rule.

C) Caglianone has hit 2 of his bumps. The third one has not happened yet. He is still in the after call up price slump since he didn't produce. He will go on a tear later this year or next spring training and his stuff will see a significant spike.

[clsports]

He can absolutely make adjustments in the off season and possibly become the star that most projected him to be. He is young and there is plenty of time.

Regarding his card values, they rose very high and it will be tough to see those levels again as most have said, but if there are good deals out there, then why not grab a few?

If he makes adjustments everyone will forget the struggles and will be back on the bandwagon. Happens quite often.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I thought this was going to a zombie thread from 2021.

Definitely a great time to collect him. I wouldn’t dive in thinking you’ll make profit though. He’s more likely to be trade than be a life-long Yankee.

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

Thanks. Im interested in just the general thoughts of prospecting as well, not just Jasson.

From a prospecting perspective, Jasson's prices peaked around when his superfractor sold for close to 500k

Definitely better prospects to put money into like De Vries, Konnor Griffin, Kevin McGonigle that haven't been called up yet so their prices could still rise

Jasson on the other hand would have to get a lot better for his cards to recover

[glen87]

also partly because of the "fool me once" mentality...so he would have to produce consistenly high for a few years to get rid of that factor

[fishepa]

I feel like most of the hot "hobby" rookies already have MVP prices built in.

[corockies]

You have to be extremely careful with players like Dominguez because the buy in was very high to begin with. There's an artificial price prop due to this because those 'holding the bag' refuse to let them drop lower than what they initially bought in at. They want to recoup as much as possible even though the current prices don't reflect the real value.

[seanrs1]

If you like to gamble with this hobby (I think most do) than buying any under performing young player with past hype hoping for a rebound is fine.

I think you are better off buying Ohtani and Judge RC cards and keep hoping they put up MVP numbers going forward.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by fishepa

I feel like most of the hot "hobby" rookies already have MVP prices built in.

Exactly, happens in every sport. MVPs for baseball, Super Bowl (especially for QBS) football, and MVP/Championship for basketball.

Each year the player doesn't do it, the prices go down. Speed depends on how close/good the player is. After 3/4 years, the hobby moves on even if the player is still a really good player.

[21Pittsburgh58]

Not until they fire Boone - he's an idiot when it comes to using rookies/young ball players.

Unlike other teams that keep their prospects in the lineup so that they can get consistent at bats, that idiot doesn't.

Jasson fans are screwed until Boone is gone.

[ThoseBackPages]

i say buy him if you enjoy watching him play.

The Hobby will continue to belong to Ohtani and Judge for the next 3 to 5 years.

When their inevitable downturn happens there will have to be someone to take the baton from them and carry the hobby

IMO that list of names is going to be very short.

[Turnitin2004]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Exactly, happens in every sport. MVPs for baseball, Super Bowl (especially for QBS) football, and MVP/Championship for basketball.

Each year the player doesn't do it, the prices go down. Speed depends on how close/good the player is. After 3/4 years, the hobby moves on even if the player is still a really good player.

Then how does anyone make money on prospecting? I just enjoy it kind of like the stock market except I like baseball a lot more.

Originally Posted by kipgen

From a prospecting perspective, Jasson's prices peaked around when his superfractor sold for close to 500k

Definitely better prospects to put money into like De Vries, Konnor Griffin, Kevin McGonigle that haven't been called up yet so their prices could still rise

Jasson on the other hand would have to get a lot better for his cards to recover

Yeah but those are current top prospects and their prices are super high already. Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of prospecting? You have to get them before they have the super hype. I think id rather turn a 50$ card into a 300$ card than risk $750 into $1500 even though its more money.

Originally Posted by seanrs1

If you like to gamble with this hobby (I think most do) than buying any under performing young player with past hype hoping for a rebound is fine.

I think you are better off buying Ohtani and Judge RC cards and keep hoping they put up MVP numbers going forward.

Yeah but they are already great. And you may be buying at their absolute peak

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

Then how does anyone make money on prospecting?

Buying under-the-radar names, hoping they become prospects of note, and finally (and most importantly), selling right at call-up.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

If you like to gamble with this hobby (I think most do) than buying any under performing young player with past hype hoping for a rebound is fine.

I think you are better off buying Ohtani and Judge RC cards and keep hoping they put up MVP numbers going forward.

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

Yeah but they are already great. And you may be buying at their absolute peak

you are not accounting for the HoF (or HoF talk) bump if they continue their success