Cal Raleigh

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

imagine pulling this stat out of your #$% and thinking it is important in any context for a catcher

Relax -- it was in response to another poster's claim that catching instead of playing the outfield, like Judge, suppresses Cal's hitting. But I pointed out he wouldn't be playing right field due to his speed -- he'd likely be at 1B or DH. And hitting full-time at DH comes with its own complications and adjustments.

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Raleigh gets Robbed!! Watch!!

As an Ms and Raleigh fan I want Dumper to win it. If Judge wins it, good for him. he’s deserving and like Raleigh is good for the game. I wouldn’t say Raleigh got robbed. The bummer being that this is a fairly historical season and I’d be surprised if it gets replicated, not shocked.

Maris hit 39 and 33 out with the 61 in between.

I think 33 is floor for a healthy Cal and would put the over/under at 40. Sorry for going slightly off tangent there.

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

They never play well without Judge. I believe they went 4-7 when he was on the 10 day IL. A few years ago when he had the injury at Dodgers stadium, they almost collapsed and lost a spot in the playoffs until Judge came back and carried the team. This team doesn't play well without it's captain.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Yankees overall:
2023: 82-80
2024: 94-68
2025: 88-68
Total: 264-216 (0.550%)

Judge playing:
2023: 57-49
2024: 92-66
2025: 84-62
Total: 233-177 (0.568%)

Judge not playing:
2023: 25-31
2024: 2-2
2025: 4-6
Total: 31-39 (0.443%)

[RainCityShecks]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Relax -- it was in response to another poster's claim that catching instead of playing the outfield, like Judge, suppresses Cal's hitting. But I pointed out he wouldn't be playing right field due to his speed -- he'd likely be at 1B or DH. And hitting full-time at DH comes with its own complications and adjustments.

Wrong! Just stating it’s easier to sun bathe out in right than slogging 9 inning behind the plate, overall, as a player, in the game of baseball. Never said it suppressed hitting. Nice try bro!


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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

Wrong! Just stating it’s easier to sun bathe out in right than slogging 9 inning behind the plate, overall, as a player, in the game of baseball. Never said it suppressed hitting. Nice try bro!


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Is this you?:

"if Cal was out there sun-bathing in right field all season he might have the AL record already."

You were clearly implying that if he weren't playing catcher and instead were playing an easier defensive position like right field, Cal would have a better home run total, correct?

[Rbradleigh]

“Now Win the whole #@#@#@#@ing thing”

Love it Cal

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Yankees overall:
2023: 82-80
2024: 94-68
2025: 88-68
Total: 264-216 (0.550%)

Judge playing:
2023: 57-49
2024: 92-66
2025: 84-62
Total: 233-177 (0.568%)

Judge not playing:
2023: 25-31
2024: 2-2
2025: 4-6
Total: 31-39 (0.443%)

And that's exactly what I was speaking of.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Raleigh is in the 17th percentile in sprint speed this season -- there is no way he'd be playing in the outfield. It is 1B or DH. He's hit .221/.318/.507 at DH this season, so there might be some adjustment needed.

Soto is the Mets everyday RF and he has a 13 sprint speed. And 1 fielding run value....

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Soto is the Mets everyday RF and he has a 13 sprint speed. And 1 fielding run value....

OAA (Statcast) has Soto as having the second-worst range value of all outfielders with -11 runs, behind only Nick Castellanos' with -12 runs.

His sprint speed was in the 56th percentile when he debuted in 2018. This was after logging 953.0 innings in the outfield in minor league games.

As an infielder, Raleigh's natural transition would be to 1B, if any position.

[oldgoldy97]

His lower body seems unnaturally large.

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

His lower body seems unnaturally large.

Steroids?

[AnthonyCorona]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

His lower body seems unnaturally large.

Are you accusing him of using dumper enhancing drugs?

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

His lower body seems unnaturally large.

Should have a side by side measurement with Stanton.

[RainCityShecks]

Surely Cal’s superior durability (10 extra games) must contribute to his MVP case? AJ not doing anyone any favors with his mid season sabbatical.


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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

Surely Cal’s superior durability (10 extra games) must contribute to his MVP case? AJ not doing anyone any favors with his mid season sabbatical.


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That's where volume stats come into play, namely WAR. Just because a player plays 10 more games, it doesn't mean they've been proportionally more valuable to their team. Sometimes, in fact, playing too many games can have detrimental effects to a player -- this was speculated to have been the case with Cal Ripken Jr, who never took a game off and whose body and performance probably would have benefitted from it.

[ScooterD]

Makes things complicated, but what about deducting the difference in WAR value between the actual replacement for the usual starter from that of the person who actually started in the place?

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

Surely Cal’s superior durability (10 extra games) must contribute to his MVP case? AJ not doing anyone any favors with his mid season sabbatical.


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Agreed. MVP’s don’t just disappear mid-season.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

Agreed. MVP’s don’t just disappear mid-season.

Ohtani peaced out the last month of 2023 and still won unanimously.

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Ohtani peaced out the last month of 2023 and still won unanimously.

Well he is the best player in baseball...that counts for something.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

Agreed. MVP’s don’t just disappear mid-season.

Judge has only had one month where his batting average was lower than Cal Raleigh's entire season batting average.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Judge has only had one month where his batting average was lower than Cal Raleigh's entire season batting average.

Was that duration of his injury?

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Was that duration of his injury?

Month of August when he came back from injury. Probably wasn't 100% when he came back, but the team needed him. He's hitting .333 this month.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

Surely Cal’s superior durability (10 extra games) must contribute to his MVP case? AJ not doing anyone any favors with his mid season sabbatical.


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Pretty sad Cal couldn’t boost his WAR more with 10 extra games.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Boo

Pretty sad Cal couldn’t boost his WAR more with 10 extra games.

Imagine an MVP hitting under the Mendoza line 3 months of the season.