First Buzz: 2025-26 Topps NBA basketball cards

[glassofwater]

Originally Posted by sedopowers

saving a few names for update series

That’s what I’m saying save a few names for update. We als kbow how popular mlb debut now nba debut cards are for rc.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by sedopowers

saving a few names for update series

Youd figure if they didnt have a base card, theyd have an insert

[CapMarvelous]

Luka missing raises an eyebrow. He's one of the league's biggest stars. This makes me concerned for Topps NFL. Mahomes has an exclusive with Panini, but nobody can tell me he'd be excluded from Topps big comeback.

Hope Luka is in the Update or Series 2 (if there is one).

[iBUYJUNK]

Not a basketball cards collector but will try a cop a box or so cause the 2025 design is one of my favorites.

[hobbytime]

[Row]

Should be a fun product, always nice seeing some new stuff.

Only one card for me to chase. Assuming there will be a green parallel?

Base
270 Detlef Schrempf, Seattle Supersonic

[Bob Ross]

Math time with Uncle Bob.

Using the "THE DAILY DRIBBLE" insert which is Hobby only, the Foilfractor 1/1 odds, and the assumption that the Hobby box makeup is identical to MLB Topps Hobby of 20 packs per box:

THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE checklist: 40
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE Foilfractor odds: 1:133,934
Packs per Hobby Box: 20
Hobby Boxes made: 267,868

For funsies, here is the same insert math for Jumbo boxes:
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE checklist: 40
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE Foilfractor odds: 1:33706
Packs per Jumbo Box: 10
Jumbo Boxes made: 134,824

These are the only SKU's THE DAILY DRIBBLE INSERT is in so do what you will with these box numbers.

Your friend,
Bob

[ninjacookies]

Hobby cialis is back.

Design looks cleaner than Shyne's criminal rap sheet. Take notes on proper execution of minimalism, Hackler.


Manurenini soon a distant relic of corporate tyranny and fascist employee-worn proletarianisation sheathed in a $30 Pelican murse. Lipstick on a Kardashian.



My quest for the Knipple rainbow shall and will not be denied.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Math time with Uncle Bob.

Using the "THE DAILY DRIBBLE" insert which is Hobby only, the Foilfractor 1/1 odds, and the assumption that the Hobby box makeup is identical to MLB Topps Hobby of 20 packs per box:

THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE checklist: 40
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE Foilfractor odds: 1:133,934
Packs per Hobby Box: 20
Hobby Boxes made: 267,868

For funsies, here is the same insert math for Jumbo boxes:
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE checklist: 40
THE DOUBLE DRIBBLE Foilfractor odds: 1:33706
Packs per Jumbo Box: 10
Jumbo Boxes made: 134,824

These are the only SKU's THE DAILY DRIBBLE INSERT is in so do what you will with these box numbers.

Your friend,
Bob

sooo.... 20,000ish cases of each?

edit: I dont think the math works out, there are 40 total DD 1/1s but we dont know many are in hobby and how many are in jumbo. Is there anything that is either exclusive to jumbo or hobby?

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by anusinha

sooo.... 20,000ish cases of each?

edit: I dont think the math works out, there are 40 total DD 1/1s but we dont know many are in hobby and how many are in jumbo. Is there anything that is either exclusive to jumbo or hobby?

Hence why I say do what you will.

If you wanna make it easy and assume this insert is split evenly odds wise between the two, I'd chop each box number in half-ish. Which still equals: a fvcking sh1tton of this junk is produced. Pardon my french.

[yiguiri2002]

Yeah, 200K boxes, regardless of the format, is a lot. Probably more than Donruss and Hoops combined, including retail.

[anusinha]

so there are probably something like 20k total cases of hobby and jumbo, which is close to Topps s1 baseball. I assume there is a metric ton of retail as well.

[RKH916]

Completely underwhelming

[threepointplay]

I personally do no think that Topps can produce too much of this particular release.

I simply want to be able to walk into my LCS and pick up a box at a price that does not make my roll my eyes; then take it home and enjoy the experience of opening a box and having fun with the cards as I do. I will then put together a base set in a binder and pick one of the rarer insert sets I like the look of, to chase over the coming weeks and months to join it.

The key for Fanatics making this license work, is having different products at different price points & product runs. I will happily pour over and scrutinise the print runs of higher end products in the coming weeks and months.

For me personally, Topps Flagship is all about a little old fashioned collecting.

[mma138]

anyone have a image of coopers base rookie ?

[jkampis]

Originally Posted by threepointplay

I personally do no think that Topps can produce too much of this particular release.

I simply want to be able to walk into my LCS and pick up a box at a price that does not make my roll my eyes; then take it home and enjoy the experience of opening a box and having fun with the cards as I do. I will then put together a base set in a binder and pick one of the rarer insert sets I like the look of, to chase over the coming weeks and months to join it.

The key for Fanatics making this license work, is having different products at different price points & product runs. I will happily pour over and scrutinise the print runs of higher end products in the coming weeks and months.

For me personally, Topps Flagship is all about a little old fashioned collecting.

I agree with this point. Topps SHOULD print flagship basketball to the moon, or regular hobby box prices will end up at some ridiculous price like north of $200.

[premium1981]

Flagship should absolutely be printed very heavily and available everywhere. If they have this brand new license and a fan cannot walk into their local hobby shop or retail store and buy whatever format they are looking for, they have failed. The premium products should be limited, but not this release. Not at all. If they printed too little, $200 would even be cheap. Boxes would 4x at release because of how expensive Panini products were. It will still cost around $400 for the newest Prizm Basketball Hobby Box, even with the crappy rookie class. So this has to be printed very heavy to keep box prices down under $200.

[sandlotsportcards]

I agree with the last few posts. For this release I don’t really care about print run. I want to be able to buy some boxes of both formats and not get price gouged. Certain inserts, parallels, “hits” will have value regardless of the print run. If price is reasonable I might even consider a case of something if I can get my hands on one and I haven’t opened a case of anything in years.

[Bob Ross]

I also agree that it should be produced heavily.

However, that only is correct with the proper price point.

[Bosoxfan5990]

I'm glad I held off on 2025 Update so I can buy a box of this.

[BabaORiley]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

I think the main concern with Chrome is the potential price point.

If it's reasonable, let the good times roll.

For me, the potential price point is a secondary concern to the quality of the chrome release. If they used the same printer they used for, say, Topps Chrome NPB or Pro Debut Chrome, I'm all over it and will rip a couple cases. But if we get faded, washed out looking chrome a la 2024 Topps Chrome Baseball/Football/Basketball or 2025 Bowman/Bowman Chrome, it's just an easy pass for me and I'll wait for Sapphire. Maybe pick up some singles.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

It's flagship Topps, nobody should be pumping, but of course they will.

Now if they did something cool like make it like the 09 release with Chrome parallels /999, refractors /500, golds /50 as a "chrome preview" along with gold border numbered cards and black numbered parallels that would be cool, but of course they didn't do that.

Base parallel to death. Starting off just as expected.

Of course. Why put an ounce of extra juice in something that will sell regardless?

But they chrome the crap out of everything else. So it’s a little comical.

[fabiani12333]

I think Topps is going to find out that, unlike baseball, the basketball card market doesn't have a large collector base -- those who build sets, open product for fun, and follow the sport.

Therefore, mass-produced cheaper products like flagship just wont have the appeal and demand to justify their large print runs.

The basketball card market is much more shallow than the baseball card market. It's why it's had such dramatic price swings since 2020.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I think Topps is going to find out that, unlike baseball, the basketball card market doesn't have a large collector base -- those who build sets, open product for fun, and follow the sport.

Therefore, mass-produced cheaper products like flagship just wont have the appeal and demand to justify their large print runs.

The basketball card market is much more shallow than the baseball card market. It's why it's had such dramatic price swings since 2020.

Different demand doesn't mean the demand is less. The top end basketball cards will far outperform the top end baseball cards. Even in base flagship. That chase will keep demand strong, even if people are chunking the base cards. People will want their Lebron autographs and Cooper Flagg rc parallel's. And this will most likely feel like a very inexpensive release for basketball people that are used to shelling out much more for their boxes and breaks.

[Jaypers]

No shock who the cover guy is. Releases 10/23.