Players you thought were in the Hall of fame but are not. - Page 2

f2tornado · 10-14-2025, 07:50 AM

When I was much younger, I just assumed Roger Maris was in the Hall. Can't think of anyone else.

JeffG1954 · 10-14-2025, 07:55 AM

Jim Abbott.

Phoneboy · 10-14-2025, 08:36 AM

Will Clark. Was having a conversations about SEC baseball players in the HOF. I asked, "Who are the 2?". Their reply was Frank Thomas and Will Clark. In reality, it's Thomas and Helton. I thought that Will Clark was a great guess though.

ScooterD · 10-14-2025, 10:43 AM

My confusion always comes with those who are honored in the HOF - rather than enshrined.

Example - Abbot and Costello both appear in pics and the gold record of “Who’s on First” - so there are in the HoF… but they aren’t enshrined

LCM1223 · 10-14-2025, 10:47 AM

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I always thought Roger Maris was in the Hall, I used to stare at the back of his 1965 Topps card and thought he was the greatest player ever.

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Originally Posted by f2tornado

When I was much younger, I just assumed Roger Maris was in the Hall. Can't think of anyone else.

Definitely had this same exact thought in the past

Maxim104 · 10-14-2025, 10:52 AM

Lou Whitaker and Kenny Lofton

Tom Oates · 10-14-2025, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I still have to occasionally remind myself that Orel Hershiser isn’t in the Hall "YET".

Fixed it for you ;-)

Tom Oates · 10-14-2025, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Not as bad as Arky Vaughan or Johnny Mize.

Arky is an interesting back story. Sat out three years because he clashed with Durocher. Sits for three years and comes back and puts up a .325 BA at the age of 35. Died at 40 while trying to save his friend after their boat overturned. Can't be too many of his auto's floating around. I'm lucky to have his auto on a PCL SF Seals reunion ball.

Archangel1775 · 10-14-2025, 02:43 PM

Probably Roger Maris. Even recently I thought he was voted in through a committee.

Tarvan · 10-14-2025, 03:10 PM

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Liberty Flames legend Sid bream

Yes indeed. Our claim to fame!

OhioLawyerF5 · 10-14-2025, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Why? Just assume any half decent Yankee gets the call? That's understandable, so many unearned awards and plaques just because one donned pinstripes.

I'm not sure "half decent" means what you think it means. That or you weren't alive in the 80s. From 1984 through 1989 he was one of the best hitters in the game. Injuries derailed what was clearly going to be a HOF career. Half decent doesn't do peak Mattingly justice. And I'm not a Yankees fan.

f2tornado · 10-14-2025, 04:36 PM

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I'm not sure "half decent" means what you think it means. That or you weren't alive in the 80s. From 1984 through 1989 he was one of the best hitters in the game. Injuries derailed what was clearly going to be a HOF career. Half decent doesn't do peak Mattingly justice. And I'm not a Yankees fan.

Correct. He was a star and face of the hobby until McGwire's rookie season followed by Canseco's 40/40 season. His 1984 Donruss PSA 10 is one of the most expensive cards from the 1980s. Crazy he never struck out more than 43 times in season. I could see the vets put him in some day. Had he stuck it out a little longer, could have landed a WS or four on those late 90s dominant Yankees teams.

fabiani12333 · 10-14-2025, 05:15 PM

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Luis Tiant - was a little before my time but people always spoke him reverently. Was surprised that he was on the outside looking in.

Yeah, Tiant was a player who I assumed was in the Hall until I started looking over the names in Hall more closely in recent years.

green4407 · 10-14-2025, 05:26 PM

Felix Hernandez is like a modern day Vida Blue. Both came up at 19 and were on an easy HOF trajectory their first 12 years. Both flamed out in their early 30s. If either could've just stuck around and been average through their mid-late 30s they'd be in.

Archangel1775 · 10-14-2025, 06:18 PM

The 1984 Donruss Don Mattingly is an iconic card. I could never afford a box.

rats60 · 10-14-2025, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Oates

Arky is an interesting back story. Sat out three years because he clashed with Durocher. Sits for three years and comes back and puts up a .325 BA at the age of 35. Died at 40 while trying to save his friend after their boat overturned. Can't be too many of his auto's floating around. I'm lucky to have his auto on a PCL SF Seals reunion ball.

That is one story, but his family says that he wanted to be with his family in California during World War II instead of on the other side of the country in Pittsburgh. Those three years cost him in counting stats like many other superstars of that era, Williams, DiMaggio, Musial, Greenberg, Feller, Mize.

Overall though, Vaughan was really underrated during his career. He led the NL in WAR in 1934, finishing 4th in BA, 1st in OBP and 6th in SLG and finished 23rd in MVP voting. He had what many consider the 2nd greatest season by a SS in 1935 and was robbed of the MVP, finishing third. He hit .385/.491/.607 OPS+190 all leading the league and was worth 9.8 WAR. He again led the league in WAR in 1936 and didn't get a single MVP vote. 5th in BA, 1st in OBP and 6th in OPS+. He had another huge season, 8.9 WAR, in 1938 and finished 3rd in MVP voting when he should have been at least second. His offernsive numbers for a SS were insane with a career OPS+ of 136, trailing only Honus Wagner and part time SS and full time steroid user Alex Rodriguez.

I have two of his autographs, on a 1935 Pirates team ball and a PSA slabbed cut. He is a tougher auto having died in 1952 and an overlooked autograph target during his career.

blackvodka · 10-14-2025, 06:31 PM

Orel Hershiser.

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PuddleMonkey · 10-14-2025, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I'm not sure "half decent" means what you think it means. That or you weren't alive in the 80s. From 1984 through 1989 he was one of the best hitters in the game. Injuries derailed what was clearly going to be a HOF career. Half decent doesn't do peak Mattingly justice. And I'm not a Yankees fan.

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Correct. He was a star and face of the hobby until McGwire's rookie season followed by Canseco's 40/40 season. His 1984 Donruss PSA 10 is one of the most expensive cards from the 1980s. Crazy he never struck out more than 43 times in season. I could see the vets put him in some day. Had he stuck it out a little longer, could have landed a WS or four on those late 90s dominant Yankees teams.

Christ you two, do I not cheap shot the Yankees enough on this board for you to notice this is my thing?

And you don't dare bring up Mattingly and the HOF without mentioning Strawberry first.

PuddleMonkey · 10-14-2025, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoneboy

Will Clark. Was having a conversations about SEC baseball players in the HOF. I asked, "Who are the 2?". Their reply was Frank Thomas and Will Clark. In reality, it's Thomas and Helton. I thought that Will Clark was a great guess though.

Will Clark and Buster Posey aren't allowed in until mfw13 gives up the cards I need for my 2008 Legendary Cuts set.

Skipscards · 10-14-2025, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Not as bad as Arky Vaughan or Johnny Mize.

True. There are plenty of them (Joe Gordon is another), but those two are way up there.

Skipscards · 10-14-2025, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Oates

... Can't be too many of his auto's floating around. I'm lucky to have his auto on a PCL SF Seals reunion ball.

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Originally Posted by rats60

…I have two of his autographs, on a 1935 Pirates team ball and a PSA slabbed cut. He is a tougher auto having died in 1952 and an overlooked autograph target during his career.

fulltritty · 10-15-2025, 06:30 AM

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Christ you two, do I not cheap shot the Yankees enough on this board for you to notice this is my thing?

And you don't dare bring up Mattingly and the HOF without mentioning Strawberry first.

They obviously didn't check out the Yankees thread during the playoffs to witness your epic trolling.

While I like that Steinbrenner gave Strawberry a second chance, no way a drug addict is getting into the Hall of Fame. This is the MLB, not the NFL.

itsbaytime · 10-15-2025, 08:11 AM

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They obviously didn't check out the Yankees thread during the playoffs to witness your epic trolling.

While I like that Steinbrenner gave Strawberry a second chance, no way a drug addict is getting into the Hall of Fame. This is the MLB, not the NFL.

LOL, I can assure you that tons of drug addicts are already in the MLB HOF.

BostonNut · 10-15-2025, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Why? Just assume any half decent Yankee gets the call? That's understandable, so many unearned awards and plaques just because one donned pinstripes.

Are you talking about the team that retired the same number twice???

no10pin · 10-15-2025, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

They obviously didn't check out the Yankees thread during the playoffs to witness your epic trolling.

While I like that Steinbrenner gave Strawberry a second chance, no way a drug addict is getting into the Hall of Fame. This is the MLB, not the NFL.

Tim Raines is in the HOF.

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Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	Probably Roger Maris. Even recently I thought he was voted in through a committee. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

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Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	The 1984 Donruss Don Mattingly is an iconic card. I could never afford a box. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

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f2tornado Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 2,271 f2tornado f2tornado	When I was much younger, I just assumed Roger Maris was in the Hall. Can't think of anyone else.

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ScooterD Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 5,317	My confusion always comes with those who are honored in the HOF - rather than enshrined. Example - Abbot and Costello both appear in pics and the gold record of “Who’s on First” - so there are in the HoF… but they aren’t enshrined

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Maxim104 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,149	Lou Whitaker and Kenny Lofton

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green4407 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,566 greensupplies530 green4407	Felix Hernandez is like a modern day Vida Blue. Both came up at 19 and were on an easy HOF trajectory their first 12 years. Both flamed out in their early 30s. If either could've just stuck around and been average through their mid-late 30s they'd be in.