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Old 10-15-2025, 08:55 AM   #401
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LOL, especially honesty that is a threat to one’s business interests!

Get that grovelling out of here, I’m trying to flip my jumbo boxes!

Fanatics better keep the sticker autos and redemptions to a minimum here.
I’m surprised at the willingness to disclose the correct way to do things. It’s like pointing out the honey hole on the lake.

If everyone is rich then no one is.
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I’m surprised at the willingness to disclose the correct way to do things. It’s like pointing out the honey hole on the lake.

If everyone is rich then no one is.
It’s important to hear BOTH correct ways of doing things, and make a decision based on your interests.

Saving your money can be just as good as making money.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:16 AM   #403
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Breaking: According to NBACentral (and retweeted by Topps), all NBA rookies will wear a "Debut Patch" on their jersey during their first game, then that patch will be removed and embedded into a 1/1 autographed card, then randomly inserted into packs starting next year.

Yes folks, this craze has reached basketball.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:16 AM   #404
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When someone opens a new product and gives their opinion about it, I want an honest analysis. I don’t want someone who blindly pumps a product simply because they are in the market to advertise and flip their singles to recoup their losses or turn sealed boxes for maximum profit.

People who mask their enthusiasm for a product for the purpose of resale are frauds - if the product sucks, we need to know about it. Complaints are more valuable on these boards than pumps, in my opinion. We need more honest analysis and less product pumping.
There are two problems with this.

First, you don't know the product sucks. If it sucks it sucks. There is no honest analysis right now about the product value because it doesn't exist yet. So everything is just opinions. And my opinions about wax value is usually very accurate because I have opened everything. Flagship specifically, I have historically opened around 100 cases of each release. So I know what I am talking about when I discuss what the contents usually yield. I only recently stopped opening cases in mass because the value is not what it used to be. I have stated that many times over. The variable here, is that Topps hasn't done basketball in many years. But that variable can be reasonably answered due to the demand that has been built up waiting for it to get here.

Secondly, you say everything sucks. Its hard for your opinion to hold water when its the same opinion blanketed across everything. And then when people point out where you are/were wrong you resort to name calling, generalizations, and then move on to your next thread that you intend to troll.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:18 AM   #405
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Breaking: According to NBACentral (and retweeted by Topps), all NBA rookies will wear a "Debut Patch" on their jersey during their first game, then that patch will be removed and embedded into a 1/1 autographed card, then randomly inserted into packs for next year.

Yes folks, this craze has reached basketball.
We knew it was coming. The amount of money these things bring in will be wild. Whatever product they end up in will be unattainable.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:20 AM   #406
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NBA 3 Kings?
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:21 AM   #407
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Breaking: According to NBACentral (and retweeted by Topps), all NBA rookies will wear a "Debut Patch" on their jersey during their first game, then that patch will be removed and embedded into a 1/1 autographed card, then randomly inserted into packs starting next year.

Yes folks, this craze has reached basketball.
Oh gosh, here comes the Calvary!

Save your women and children, folks!
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:34 AM   #408
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There are two problems with this.

First, you don't know the product sucks. If it sucks it sucks. There is no honest analysis right now about the product value because it doesn't exist yet. So everything is just opinions. And my opinions about wax value is usually very accurate because I have opened everything. Flagship specifically, I have historically opened around 100 cases of each release. So I know what I am talking about when I discuss what the contents usually yield. I only recently stopped opening cases in mass because the value is not what it used to be. I have stated that many times over. The variable here, is that Topps hasn't done basketball in many years. But that variable can be reasonably answered due to the demand that has been built up waiting for it to get here.

Secondly, you say everything sucks. Its hard for your opinion to hold water when its the same opinion blanketed across everything. And then when people point out where you are/were wrong you resort to name calling, generalizations, and then move on to your next thread that you intend to troll.
I must have done something in the past to hurt your feelings?

Many things do suck in the hobby today and that’s the truth. I too have opened hundreds of cases over the last several decades so I can give an honest opinion about products.

The difference between you and I is that I open strictly for entertainment purposes and you open primarily for resale - you are a self-proclaimed “hard worker” because you try to nickel and dime your way in the hobby - you need to profit to make this hobby purposeful for you.

Your opinions are obviously biased because they are financially motivated.

My opinions are coming from the entertainment perspective, where value is also important. So I understand that anything negative I say about a product or the hobby could hurt your business interests. I get it.

The fact that you call people who complain about a product “lazy” makes you a hypocrite - you aren’t innocent of your own accusations.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:35 AM   #409
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Breaking: According to NBACentral (and retweeted by Topps), all NBA rookies will wear a "Debut Patch" on their jersey during their first game, then that patch will be removed and embedded into a 1/1 autographed card, then randomly inserted into packs starting next year.

Yes folks, this craze has reached basketball.
That sucks for the Sotheby's NBA auctions of rookie debut jerseys.

They'll now be altered jerseys
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NBA 3 Kings?
You can bet on it!
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:55 AM   #411
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That sucks for the Sotheby's NBA auctions of rookie debut jerseys.

They'll now be altered jerseys
The debut patches for baseball have historically been a patch with an adhesive back that easily peals off. Assuming the nba ones are the same i don’t think the jerseys will be viewed as altered.
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Old 10-15-2025, 09:59 AM   #412
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See a bunch of 2025-26 Topps NBA card designs for the first time in the gallery here >> BlowoutBuzz.com

Added about 80 of 'em in there tonight. #collect #NBA


So many great looking cards!
My favorites:
1980-81 Autos
Team color parallels
Home Court Advantage
& Class of '25

This is going to be fun.
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Old 10-15-2025, 10:01 AM   #413
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So many great looking cards!
My favorites:
1980-81 Autos
Team color parallels
Home Court Advantage
& Class of '25

This is going to be fun.
The All Kings look fantastic too.
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Old 10-15-2025, 10:12 AM   #414
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The difference between you and I is that I open strictly for entertainment purposes
There is almost no one who actually only opens for entertainment value. Not when you are talking about an actual case of cards. Blaster boxes? Sure. That is why you complain so much about contents. Because you do care about the value. If it was truly only for entertainment, you wouldn't care.

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Your opinions are obviously biased because they are financially motivated.
I am a numbers guy. Everything I buy, sell, and opinionate myself on is based on math. I post here because outside of a few people who do nothing but troll (this is you) I enjoy the hobby conversation. Blowout threads do exactly zero for my business in a positive or negative way. I do not buy or sell here. And I also believe social media is a huge negative on our society and I don't participate in it so this is my interactions outside of shows. That is why it irritates people like me so much when guys like you troll everything just to tell everyone how much everything sucks.

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So I understand that anything negative I say about a product or the hobby could hurt your business interests. I get it.
I can guarantee that your opinions do nothing to sway anyones interests nor hurt anyones business. The only people who agree with you are the handful in your echo chamber that do the same things you do.

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The fact that you call people who complain about a product “lazy” makes you a hypocrite - you aren’t innocent of your own accusations.
Of everything that I have been called, its never been been hypocrite. You will have to lay that one out point by point because I don't even know how you could make that leap. And my point about being lazy was specifically complaining about "no value" when there was actual value leftover. The person just doesn't want to put in the effort to get it. That isn't "no value". I didn't call anyone lazy just because they complain. But I'm sure you know that too. You just need more ammo to continue spilling your mouth diarrhea all over these forums.
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It is impossible to buy or sell on this site. Especially selling.

No serious buyers here, everyone wants to get stuff for 50% of what it goes for elsewhere. Complete waste of time.
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Old 10-15-2025, 10:39 AM   #416
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There is almost no one who actually only opens for entertainment value. Not when you are talking about an actual case of cards. Blaster boxes? Sure. That is why you complain so much about contents. Because you do care about the value. If it was truly only for entertainment, you wouldn't care.



I am a numbers guy. Everything I buy, sell, and opinionate myself on is based on math. I post here because outside of a few people who do nothing but troll (this is you) I enjoy the hobby conversation. Blowout threads do exactly zero for my business in a positive or negative way. I do not buy or sell here. And I also believe social media is a huge negative on our society and I don't participate in it so this is my interactions outside of shows. That is why it irritates people like me so much when guys like you troll everything just to tell everyone how much everything sucks.



I can guarantee that your opinions do nothing to sway anyones interests nor hurt anyones business. The only people who agree with you are the handful in your echo chamber that do the same things you do.



Of everything that I have been called, it’s never been been hypocrite. You will have to lay that one out point by point because I don't even know how you could make that leap. And my point about being lazy was specifically complaining about "no value" when there was actual value leftover. The person just doesn't want to put in the effort to get it. That isn't "no value". I didn't call anyone lazy just because they complain. But I'm sure you know that too. You just need more ammo to continue spilling your mouth diarrhea all over these forums.
Again, value is an important part of entertainment. I would enjoy opening two boxes for the same cost as one box, but the breaker culture and box flippers for those breakers has destroyed that possibility, which is another story.

Secondly, I have never opened a blaster case before. There’s less entertainment value compared to a hobby box. I’ve opened hundreds of hobby cases for entertainment, so your assumptions are completely wrong.

You are hypocritical when you condemn “name-calling” because that is exactly what you are doing when calling people “too lazy” because they complain about the value of a product - it’s disturbing that you can’t see that. Everyone should voice their true opinions about a product.

It’s also disturbing that you stalk my posts and accuse every comment of mine for being a troll post - do you really read everything I comment on, or are you just targeting me because I may be a threat to your business interests? Even though you deny it, your actions tell otherwise. If you look closely, you are always the one following me, and I only respond to you when you address me. I generally don’t go looking for you.

So to stay on topic, please disclose your business interest in this product before shooting down the naysayers. I will open some of this product because it is fanatics first venture into licensed nba and because it will be entertaining. I’m not opening this product because I want to get some money back from it.
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Old 10-15-2025, 11:00 AM   #417
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All I know is 2025 Topps Basketball really gets the people goin'!

This is all quite hysterical, btw.

Much love to all!
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Old 10-15-2025, 12:27 PM   #418
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All I know is 2025 Topps Basketball really gets the people goin'!

This is all quite hysterical, btw.

Much love to all!
Heck Yes, page 17, and it hasn't even been released yet. Haven't seen that in many years.
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One aspect of this product which I find very disappointing is the 1980-81 retro checklist.

Whereas the baseball version generally is split 50/50 between retired stars and active players, the basketball version has only THREE retired players (Magic, Bird, Shaq) and comparatively few active superstars (only Curry/Shai/Ant....no Giannis, LeBron, Joker, etc.).

No Wilt, Russell, Cousy, West, or Big O cards, no Dr. J or Kareem, no Kobe card.

And no autos of Cousy, Robertson, Dr J, or Kareem.
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One aspect of this product which I find very disappointing is the 1980-81 retro checklist.

Whereas the baseball version generally is split 50/50 between retired stars and active players, the basketball version has only THREE retired players (Magic, Bird, Shaq) and comparatively few active superstars (only Curry/Shai/Ant....no Giannis, LeBron, Joker, etc.).

No Wilt, Russell, Cousy, West, or Big O cards, no Dr. J or Kareem, no Kobe card.

And no autos of Cousy, Robertson, Dr J, or Kareem.
We have yet to see an accurate roadmap for the rest of the year’s products - just remember that this is a flagship product, they might be saving other names for other higher end products. There will be MANY to come, you can be sure of that!
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We have yet to see an accurate roadmap for the rest of the year’s products - just remember that this is a flagship product, they might be saving other names for other higher end products. There will be MANY to come, you can be sure of that!
I wish I shared your optimism. Given how far behind schedule Fanatics is on releasing baseball products, I think that the number of NBA products that they are going to successfully get out the door before the end of the 25-26 season is going to be a lot lower than people think.

And I think that the most likely explanation for the lack of retired player content is that Fanatics is being either lazy or cheap when it comes to securing the image rights and autographs of retired players, since they're NOT included in the NBA player's association license.
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Old 10-15-2025, 07:23 PM   #422
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Added about 80 of 'em in there tonight. #collect #NBA


I'm going to pay an irresponsible amount of money for a VC auto from this release. Can't wait!
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This is a bit off topic but when looking at the photos/previews provided I kept thinking why don't they use better action shots? That VC is a prime example, it's a fine enough picture but why not use one of him dunking or a more iconic image. I maybe understand using basic/boring photos (dribbling down the court) for the base set, but spice it up a bit when it comes to the autograph sets.

Just seems like a missed opportunity. Unless Topps isn't allowed to use images from a certain era or timeframe
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This is a bit off topic but when looking at the photos/previews provided I kept thinking why don't they use better action shots? That VC is a prime example, it's a fine enough picture but why not use one of him dunking or a more iconic image. I maybe understand using basic/boring photos (dribbling down the court) for the base set, but spice it up a bit when it comes to the autograph sets.

Just seems like a missed opportunity. Unless Topps isn't allowed to use images from a certain era or timeframe
Iconic images may cost too much.
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What is the over/under on a Cooper Flagg Flagship base auto out the gate?

I think I'm gonna save my pennies and try to get a Topps Chrome RC of his instead of buying any TC boxes, or TRY to buy boxes
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