Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Honestly sold for much lower than I expected. Probstein not getting the most for his clients. But in all seriousness, that's what he does, bids the floor up. I've seen some good deals because they obviously don't care about the customer/client at the end of the day.

Fanatics sold an altered Contenders Rookie Ticket for 17.4k (inc premium).

To be fair though, as we both pointed out, the auto on this ebay Probstein one was very weak. The auto was significantly better for the Fanatics one, but it was still altered. 17.4k in total v.s. 11.6k is a huge difference.

I have contacted quite a few brady collectors and the consensus from them is that the auto quality on the 2000 contenders is very important to the final value. as in many thousands of dollars less for a poor quality auto.

this specific card has a very poor auto. tons of streaking. I am sure that is why the submitter did not have the auto graded. it would have been abysmal. A better auto would have made up quite a bit of the ground from 11.6 to 17.4 i think.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I have contacted quite a few brady collectors and the consensus from them is that the auto quality on the 2000 contenders is very important to the final value. as in many thousands of dollars less for a poor quality auto.

this specific card has a very poor auto. tons of streaking. I am sure that is why the submitter did not have the auto graded. it would have been abysmal. A better auto would have made up quite a bit of the ground from 11.6 to 17.4 i think.

Yeah of course. But did you see the Fanatics one? Oct. 5th sale? The auto wasn't fantastic by any means, the card was trimmed, the auto had very weak/streaky ending of the name.

It went for 17.4k - and I'm not sure if that's with the 20% (~3.5k) added to that price or including it. Also can't be sure Fanatics (PWCC) was a legit sale either. Cannot put that past an auction house. But 6k-10k more is a huge swing for a moderately better auto. Surface damage too on the Rooke Ticket holo part.

https://www.fanaticscollect.com/week...o-144-sgc-auth

There's the link. The auto is definitely better. Probstein listing had a very dark photo for that ebay one too, not sure if they were trying to hide the auto quality or it actually made it look worse. But again, to reiterate, we're talking a 7k-10k difference. I believe auto quality is important too, but both were trimmed. What I said was half-joking, but I don't think Probstein got the most for their client there at all. They should have put that on Fanatics or another auction house, for a card that big. Would have done 13-15k minimum.

[6GOAT789]

Big auto price difference for a card he may not have even signed lol

Has he ever, anywhere, mentioned signing all those cards in 2000? Including parallels, there are a lot, and a very high number total, easily over 1,000…maybe even closer to 2000 autos? Or maybe even well over 2,000

The pacific auto and autographics silver total alone is 450 autos


The order, dates etc would be awesome to know

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah of course. But did you see the Fanatics one? Oct. 5th sale? The auto wasn't fantastic by any means, the card was trimmed, the auto had very weak/streaky ending of the name.

It went for 17.4k - and I'm not sure if that's with the 20% (~3.5k) added to that price or including it. Also can't be sure Fanatics (PWCC) was a legit sale either. Cannot put that past an auction house. But 6k-10k more is a huge swing for a moderately better auto. Surface damage too on the Rooke Ticket holo part.

https://www.fanaticscollect.com/week...o-144-sgc-auth

There's the link. The auto is definitely better. Probstein listing had a very dark photo for that ebay one too, not sure if they were trying to hide the auto quality or it actually made it look worse. But again, to reiterate, we're talking a 7k-10k difference. I believe auto quality is important too, but both were trimmed. What I said was half-joking, but I don't think Probstein got the most for their client there at all. They should have put that on Fanatics or another auction house, for a card that big. Would have done 13-15k minimum.

Get over Probstein and fake bids lol

If it’s on eBay, any sale could have fake bids

It’s not like that contenders went for $25k

[Tommy1380]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Big auto price difference for a card he may not have even signed lol

Has he ever, anywhere, mentioned signing all those cards in 2000? Including parallels, there are a lot, and a very high number total, easily over 1,000…maybe even closer to 2000 autos? Or maybe even well over 2,000

The pacific auto and autographics silver total alone is 450 autos


The order, dates etc would be awesome to know

Even signing all of his rookie autos, he signed significantly less than today's rookies do, so I would be surprised if he didn't sign his. Think about how many Mahomes, Allen, Mayfield rookie autos there are. PSA lists 259 different autograph variations for Mahomes in 2017.

Let's just say that each one has a ballpark print run of 50. (Some will be 15, some will be 150) That's over 13,000 rookie autos. That's probably 5-8x the number of rookie autos that Brady had to sign.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tommy1380

Even signing all of his rookie autos, he signed significantly less than today's rookies do, so I would be surprised if he didn't sign his. Think about how many Mahomes, Allen, Mayfield rookie autos there are. PSA lists 259 different autograph variations for Mahomes in 2017.

Let's just say that each one has a ballpark print run of 50. (Some will be 15, some will be 150) That's over 13,000 rookie autos. That's probably 5-8x the number of rookie autos that Brady had to sign.

That’s ridiculous lol. Idk if that has anything to do with Brady 2000 autos though since it’s so much later

[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Big auto price difference for a card he may not have even signed lol

Has he ever, anywhere, mentioned signing all those cards in 2000? Including parallels, there are a lot, and a very high number total, easily over 1,000…maybe even closer to 2000 autos? Or maybe even well over 2,000

The pacific auto and autographics silver total alone is 450 autos


The order, dates etc would be awesome to know

Yes, he has publicly been asked about signing the contenders cards and has confirmed that yes that is his signature. He admits his signature has changed over time.
I'm sure he signed all of the RC's you're referring to as there is zero evidence to support that he didn't. He wasn't exactly sought after back then so to assume he didn't sign them all doesn't make a lot of sense. Why wouldn't he sign them all? It was probably a little extra money for him at the time.

Not sure what you're agenda is in this thread but throwing shade on the legitimacy of his RC pack pulled auto's seems odd.

On a side note: Typing LOL at the end of a sentence makes it seem like you are laughing in someone's face with your comment. It's very condescending and dismissive.

[daveyc1]

I remember hearing that brady was asked about his rookie autos and confirmed that they are his sig. It was something about the influence his father had when he signed checks when brady was younger.

His auto became more stylized in 01 and 02.

[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I remember hearing that brady was asked about his rookie autos and confirmed that they are his sig. It was something about the influence his father had when he signed checks when brady was younger.

His auto became more stylized in 01 and 02.

Correct, it was a video of him at Fanatics Fest last year I believe. A vendor asked him directly.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

Correct, it was a video of him at Fanatics Fest last year I believe. A vendor asked him directly.

Yeah I bought a card off that guy. Dacaptain something. I saw it on a youtube short, basically he signed long-form formal on his early autos. Then he developed the TB12 thing.

Ironically that vendor is a raiders fan. But he has a huge Brady collection and must live in the Boston area because I saw him a local show here. Didn't buy a Brady off him either. But yeah, that was the video. And I agree, there's no reason to believe any of the rookie issued autos are not real. Obviously there can never be 100% on any auto unless you witnessed it first hand, but those very, very likely all legit.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

Yes, he has publicly been asked about signing the contenders cards and has confirmed that yes that is his signature. He admits his signature has changed over time.
I'm sure he signed all of the RC's you're referring to as there is zero evidence to support that he didn't. He wasn't exactly sought after back then so to assume he didn't sign them all doesn't make a lot of sense. Why wouldn't he sign them all? It was probably a little extra money for him at the time.

Not sure what you're agenda is in this thread but throwing shade on the legitimacy of his RC pack pulled auto's seems odd.

On a side note: Typing LOL at the end of a sentence makes it seem like you are laughing in someone's face with your comment. It's very condescending and dismissive.

Idk where you’ve been but auto legitimacy was a big thing here for a while, with some not 100 percent sure it was Brady that signed them all

Also, not once have I ever said “LOL” here


Good try though with everything

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah I bought a card off that guy. Dacaptain something. I saw it on a youtube short, basically he signed long-form formal on his early autos. Then he developed the TB12 thing.

Ironically that vendor is a raiders fan. But he has a huge Brady collection and must live in the Boston area because I saw him a local show here. Didn't buy a Brady off him either. But yeah, that was the video. And I agree, there's no reason to believe any of the rookie issued autos are not real. Obviously there can never be 100% on any auto unless you witnessed it first hand, but those very, very likely all legit.

He’s a great guy to talk to. Incredible collection to see in person.

[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Idk where you’ve been but auto legitimacy was a big thing here for a while, with some not 100 percent sure it was Brady that signed them all

Also, not once have I ever said “LOL” here


Good try though with everything

What? You’re kidding right? You type “lol” all the time when you respond to peoples comments. Or does lol mean something other than “Laugh out loud”. I may have capitalized it to LOL but that’s what I’m referring to.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

What? You’re kidding right? You type “lol” all the time when you respond to peoples comments. Or does lol mean something other than “Laugh out loud”. I may have capitalized it to LOL but that’s what I’m referring to.

I mean there is a difference, just saying.

Feel free to ask people here if they’re 100 percent sure that Brady signed all the cards from 2000, you seem to be 100 percent about it but others aren’t

You acted like that was a new topic out of nowhere, when really fake autos do happen, as mentioned earlier

[6GOAT789]

Thoughts on overall market?

Goldin and fanatics have some absolutely ridiculous cards/current prices, reminds me of the insane covid prices

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah of course. But did you see the Fanatics one? Oct. 5th sale? The auto wasn't fantastic by any means, the card was trimmed, the auto had very weak/streaky ending of the name.

It went for 17.4k - and I'm not sure if that's with the 20% (~3.5k) added to that price or including it. Also can't be sure Fanatics (PWCC) was a legit sale either. Cannot put that past an auction house. But 6k-10k more is a huge swing for a moderately better auto. Surface damage too on the Rooke Ticket holo part.

https://www.fanaticscollect.com/week...o-144-sgc-auth

There's the link. The auto is definitely better. Probstein listing had a very dark photo for that ebay one too, not sure if they were trying to hide the auto quality or it actually made it look worse. But again, to reiterate, we're talking a 7k-10k difference. I believe auto quality is important too, but both were trimmed. What I said was half-joking, but I don't think Probstein got the most for their client there at all. They should have put that on Fanatics or another auction house, for a card that big. Would have done 13-15k minimum.

I agree, the Fanatics example had a better auto. $5,000 sounds like a lot to me for a better auto on this card, but on higher number graded examples, a $5k swing would not be unheard of. where these are not number graded and both trimmed, I would think a few thousand should be the price difference due to auto quality. Probstein did not do the seller justice in this example.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I agree, the Fanatics example had a better auto. $5,000 sounds like a lot to me for a better auto on this card, but on higher number graded examples, a $5k swing would not be unheard of. where these are not number graded and both trimmed, I would think a few thousand should be the price difference due to auto quality. Probstein did not do the seller justice in this example.

I agree, I think someone got a "Steal" at that price in this market. I'm not sure where the buyer's premium on Fanatics fell, but even if it was accounted for it sold for 17.4k. Which was ~6k more than this sale for the same card with a worse auto.

If the premium was adding onto that, well then buyer paid 21k basically, 20,880. But I guess you can argue it's like eBay raking the seller ~13.5%. But the buyer has to pay that price, kind of like shipping is baked in. Yeah that's where I could have to go to an auction house like Goldin or Fanatics at least, once you're at the ~15-20k territory or higher or it's a marquee item like a Ticket.

[Tommy1380]

Originally Posted by Tea10

I agree, I think someone got a "Steal" at that price in this market. I'm not sure where the buyer's premium on Fanatics fell, but even if it was accounted for it sold for 17.4k. Which was ~6k more than this sale for the same card with a worse auto.

If the premium was adding onto that, well then buyer paid 21k basically, 20,880. But I guess you can argue it's like eBay raking the seller ~13.5%. But the buyer has to pay that price, kind of like shipping is baked in. Yeah that's where I could have to go to an auction house like Goldin or Fanatics at least, once you're at the ~15-20k territory or higher or it's a marquee item like a Ticket.

The $17,400 on Fanatics included the buyers premium.

There's a Contenders rookie set for Heritage's Nov auction graded PSA Authentic Auto 10, which will be interesting to see.

[6GOAT789]

Can’t remember if it was fanatics of goldin but there’s a press pass auto BGS 10/9.5

A card you rarely see in that grade, I don’t even think a 10/10 exists?

What’s your price prediction?

If a 10/9 is around $3,550 I’ll guess close to $10k for such a high grade?

[Brazenways]

TOM BRADY 2005 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection ULTIMATE SUPER PATCH #'d /10

$6,202.00

Holy smokes what a sale for a non-auto…

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

TOM BRADY 2005 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection ULTIMATE SUPER PATCH #'d /10

$6,202.00

Holy smokes what a sale for a non-auto…

What was the grade?

Seems like all these non rookie /10 are like that lately

[Brazenways]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

What was the grade?

Seems like all these non rookie /10 are like that lately

Raw dog

Only one prior recorded sale in Terapeak, still surprised it got to 6k. I was thinking 3.5k/4k max.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

Raw dog

Only one prior recorded sale in Terapeak, still surprised it got to 6k. I was thinking 3.5k/4k max.

https://www.fanaticscollect.com/week...sa-10-gem-mint

Low serial numbered/high grade non rookies have been way up as well


Just crazy to me how someone would want that over a contenders but obviously everyone is different!

Final bid price predictions?

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Can’t remember if it was fanatics of goldin but there’s a press pass auto BGS 10/9.5

A card you rarely see in that grade, I don’t even think a 10/10 exists?

What’s your price prediction?

If a 10/9 is around $3,550 I’ll guess close to $10k for such a high grade?

holy cow, that is a very high grade for that card. I have never seen one that high before. I am historically terrible at guessing prices, but I would think high 4 figures sounds about right.

I think that particular card commonly suffers from edge chipping?

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

TOM BRADY 2005 Upper Deck Ultimate Collection ULTIMATE SUPER PATCH #'d /10

$6,202.00

Holy smokes what a sale for a non-auto…

goodness! I really dont pay too much attention to jersey/patch cards, but that sure does seem like a huge sale! surprising to me!