AEW Wrestling Discussion Thread

[packman80]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

How were Sting's actions last night any different than what Taker did to The Rock a couple years ago at WM?

No different as long as he does not get back in the ring again for a match. If he does then he becomes Ric Flair.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

It took Darby getting destroyed for 20+ minutes, getting beat up 6 on 1, attempted drowning, etc, for Sting to finally come out. Darby was 0-5 against Moxley. Got the world title match that would have been all time great Darby vs Danielson taken away so we could see Danielson's career end in his worst match in AEW. Moxley basically killed Darby's career for a full year. Literally killed Darby for 23 minutes of a 26 minute match. Darby hits a couple moves and Moxley immediately taps to a Scorpion Death Lock. In less than 4 seconds. When Moxley basically didn't have a scratch on him and was on offense 90-95% of the match. I know at least in AEW Moxley has never tapped or given up that quickly in any match. What a horrible match and all time terrible ending. The only ending that would have been worse is if Moxley actually won. But all that for Darby to finally get a win and it is worthless. I have no idea how anyone can think Jon Moxley is a good wrestler.

Hey look blah blah blah giant wall of text again!

Would t you know it, there's 2 logical explanations laid out as to why it ended the way it did...

They were running short on time, and also the Missouri Pro Wrwstling Commission was alerted/warned about Darby potentially slicing his arm really bad late in the match and they didn't want it to get shut down

Now, I get being confused and it making no sense...

But why not, instead of going on a book length rant, take a breathe and wait for potential news as to what happened...and if that doesn't occur...then blast away..

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

It took Darby getting destroyed for 20+ minutes, getting beat up 6 on 1, attempted drowning, etc, for Sting to finally come out. Darby was 0-5 against Moxley. Got the world title match that would have been all time great Darby vs Danielson taken away so we could see Danielson's career end in his worst match in AEW. Moxley basically killed Darby's career for a full year. Literally killed Darby for 23 minutes of a 26 minute match. Darby hits a couple moves and Moxley immediately taps to a Scorpion Death Lock. In less than 4 seconds. When Moxley basically didn't have a scratch on him and was on offense 90-95% of the match. I know at least in AEW Moxley has never tapped or given up that quickly in any match. What a horrible match and all time terrible ending. The only ending that would have been worse is if Moxley actually won. But all that for Darby to finally get a win and it is worthless. I have no idea how anyone can think Jon Moxley is a good wrestler.

I just came in here because I was bored... I barely know what anyone is talking about at this point in AEW

But you have issues man. Wild stuff

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

It took Darby getting destroyed for 20+ minutes, getting beat up 6 on 1, attempted drowning, etc, for Sting to finally come out. Darby was 0-5 against Moxley. Got the world title match that would have been all time great Darby vs Danielson taken away so we could see Danielson's career end in his worst match in AEW. Moxley basically killed Darby's career for a full year. Literally killed Darby for 23 minutes of a 26 minute match. Darby hits a couple moves and Moxley immediately taps to a Scorpion Death Lock. In less than 4 seconds. When Moxley basically didn't have a scratch on him and was on offense 90-95% of the match. I know at least in AEW Moxley has never tapped or given up that quickly in any match. What a horrible match and all time terrible ending. The only ending that would have been worse is if Moxley actually won. But all that for Darby to finally get a win and it is worthless. I have no idea how anyone can think Jon Moxley is a good wrestler.

This match 'breakdown' reminds me of Miz vs Cena in an I Quit match back in the day. Also, I agree with your last sentence. Jon Moxley belongs in a bingo hall somewhere (I think he'd prefer that honestly)

Originally Posted by Jaypers

#2 on the PWI 500 list.

Jey Uso is #6 on that same list and boy is the internet rioting today about him!

[DrZman]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I just came in here because I was bored... I barely know what anyone is talking about at this point in AEW

But you have issues man. Wild stuff

I mean if you read his posts about the state of sports cards they're the exact same. I really hope he's a masochist that gets off on it because the alternative is too depressing to think about.

[BlowoutBuzz]

I turned it off after the Moné match. Seeing they trotted out Sting again after some extremist spot-fest = reinforces how there's plenty of copy-paste and same-old happening.

[duwal]

some people just don't agree with the 'different strokes for different folks' idea. That its bad just simply because its not something that they enjoy.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by DrZman

I mean if you read his posts about the state of sports cards they're the exact same. I really hope he's a masochist that gets off on it because the alternative is too depressing to think about.

What does that have to do with anything? Sports cards is now a business first for 99% of people in the hobby. It's about making money. Watching and going to wrestling is about entertainment and hopefully when it's good emotional investment.

As I mentioned, I didn't like AEW. I loved it. There hasn't been 1 PPV within 5 hours of me. Yet I paid to go to 10 of them between 2021 and 2024. Plus most of the tv tapings near me.

Sports cards and AEW do have 1 thing in common. The average person buying into breaks and the average person that currently loves AEW anyway. They are some of the dumbest people on earth.

Originally Posted by cdub6238

Hey look blah blah blah giant wall of text again!

Would t you know it, there's 2 logical explanations laid out as to why it ended the way it did...

They were running short on time, and also the Missouri Pro Wrwstling Commission was alerted/warned about Darby potentially slicing his arm really bad late in the match and they didn't want it to get shut down

Now, I get being confused and it making no sense...

But why not, instead of going on a book length rant, take a breathe and wait for potential news as to what happened...and if that doesn't occur...then blast away..

What about the vast majority of what they have been doing for the last year? Any explanation for all that?

Lol running short on time. What a crock of bull! Gee maybe every match before your main event doesn't have to go an eternity. Maybe every PPV doesn't have to be 4 1/2 to 6 hours. But no that would just be too hard to accomplish.

If this commission thing was an issue they are dumber than a box of rocks for not knowing ahead of time. Don't book the match there then. Or maybe assume that it wouldn't be the first time in the history of wrestling PPVs in the US that someone from an athletic commission would stop a match.

It's pointless to argue with someone that is die hard AEW this is great everything is great crowd. It's why barely comment on this stuff online. I should completely stop. It's at a point where it's people arguing politics. If you are die hard on one side nothing will change your mind.

I don't have a side. I pay and will pay in the future for the wrestlers and the matches. I could care less what the company is. I like some things and don't like others in the main companies right now. I loved WWF, WWE and WCW when they were at their best. I loved TNA when they were at their best. I loved NXT Takeover era as much as anything from 2015-2019. I loved AEW. That's because at those points they had matchups, wrestlers, storylines, etc I was invested in.

Right now AEW is in the toilet. I have to watch as long as there are wrestlers and matchups I want to see. If they all leave, I can stop watching.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

What does that have to do with anything? Sports cards is now a business first for 99% of people in the hobby. It's about making money. Watching and going to wrestling is about entertainment and hopefully when it's good emotional investment.

As I mentioned, I didn't like AEW. I loved it. There hasn't been 1 PPV within 5 hours of me. Yet I paid to go to 10 of them between 2021 and 2024. Plus most of the tv tapings near me.

Sports cards and AEW do have 1 thing in common. The average person buying into breaks and the average person that currently loves AEW anyway. They are some of the dumbest people on earth.



What about the vast majority of what they have been doing for the last year? Any explanation for all that?

Lol running short on time. What a crock of bull! Gee maybe every match before your main event doesn't have to go an eternity. Maybe every PPV doesn't have to be 4 1/2 to 6 hours. But no that would just be too hard to accomplish.

If this commission thing was an issue they are dumber than a box of rocks for not knowing ahead of time. Don't book the match there then. Or maybe assume that it wouldn't be the first time in the history of wrestling PPVs in the US that someone from an athletic commission would stop a match.

It's pointless to argue with someone that is die hard AEW this is great everything is great crowd. It's why barely comment on this stuff online. I should completely stop. It's at a point where it's people arguing politics. If you are die hard on one side nothing will change your mind.

I don't have a side. I pay and will pay in the future for the wrestlers and the matches. I could care less what the company is. I like some things and don't like others in the main companies right now. I loved WWF, WWE and WCW when they were at their best. I loved TNA when they were at their best. I loved NXT Takeover era as much as anything from 2015-2019. I loved AEW. That's because at those points they had matchups, wrestlers, storylines, etc I was invested in.

Right now AEW is in the toilet. I have to watch as long as there are wrestlers and matchups I want to see. If they all leave, I can stop watching.

What actually constitutes a "diehard AEW fan" exactly...

And it's funny you mention it that...because if you indeed were here from the beginning...I pointed out things and were clearly critical with them on a lot of things...

And hey look at that...the reason I stopped posting here, as well as a few others have said, because it's nothing but CONSTANT NEGATIVITY with every post bitchimg or complaining about something...what discussion is there to be had there?

And no...you "don't have to watch" because so and so....you male and choose to watch

But hey...keep watching something that clearly makes you miserable jist so you can come here and write book entries about it...whatever makes you feel better

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

What actually constitutes a "diehard AEW fan" exactly...

And it's funny you mention it that...because if you indeed were here from the beginning...I pointed out things and were clearly critical with them on a lot of things...

And hey look at that...the reason I stopped posting here, as well as a few others have said, because it's nothing but CONSTANT NEGATIVITY with every post bitchimg or complaining about something...what discussion is there to be had there?

And no...you "don't have to watch" because so and so....you male and choose to watch

But hey...keep watching something that clearly makes you miserable jist so you can come here and write book entries about it...whatever makes you feel better

Die hard AEW fan right now are the people that basically say AEW can do no wrong. Everything is great. All these overrated matches and shows are better than every other company the last 40 years. Will pay $40-$50 for any PPV regardless of the card.

In terms of AEW the complaining is pointless. It's because everything in AEW is based off of what one person wants. It doesn't matter what the fans want. Every single person in that company could say be on the opposite side. It could be 99 to 1 and the 1 is ho AEW has to go with. It doesn't matter if what is on tv is best for the company financially either. So you're right there is no use in complaining. Every other wrestling company since the internet there 100% has been a point to complain constantly and it has made a difference at times.

If Im a fan of people I have to watch. If Randy Moss was in a crappy position was I not going to watch the games? Of course I have to watch. That's what someone who is a real fan of a wrestler or an athlete does.

I didn't think there was anyway they were already going back to Mone vs Statlander. They had 2 amazing matches. I doubt MJF will be back by Full Gear but if he is and it's against Hangman I may actually have to go to see those 2 matches and sit through an additional 3 1/2 hours of most likely absolute garbage. But both matches have to be there for me to go. It would take alot at this point for me to make any real effort to go to and pay to go to an AEW show.

[thenightman]

I tried watching, but watching Tony Khan stare at the camera in a backstage segment, immediately followed by a puppet show had me turning it off.

[Gurds]

Originally Posted by thenightman

I tried watching, but watching Tony Khan stare at the camera in a backstage segment, immediately followed by a puppet show had me turning it off.

Whatever, Puppet Mone (Harley Cameron) is fantastic. That's going to be a fun feud when it happens. Harley has gotten so much better in the ring in the past year.

Also wrestling doesn't always have to be serious (i.e. R-Truth).

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[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Gurds

Whatever, Puppet Mone (Harley Cameron) is fantastic. That's going to be a fun feud when it happens. Harley has gotten so much better in the ring in the past year.

Also wrestling doesn't always have to be serious (i.e. R-Truth).

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I know it doesn't have to be serious, but I also didn't find the puppet stuff funny.

[TXRunner]

I don't understand the appeal of Sasha Banks, er Mercedes Mone. The whole collecting belts thing is stale.

I still tune in each week, but I feel like AEW is missing something. There isn't that storyline that has me excited to tune in. I just tune in and fast forward. My favorite thing right now is the new intro video for the Conglomeration.

With no Jericho, no Swerve, no Ospreay, I feel like that major player is missing. Hangman is fine. When it's Hangman and Swerve, that was good.

I think the last storyline that I was really excited to tune in for was when MJF and Adam Cole did the whole friends/tag team thing. That too me was gold for AEW.

[Jaypers]

The only story I'm invested in right now is Okada vs. Takeshita. Other than that, there's just nothing. The Ratings Death Riders need to split up.

[TXRunner]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

The only story I'm invested in right now is Okada vs. Takeshita. Other than that, there's just nothing. The Ratings Death Riders need to split up.

Moving Daniel Garcia to the Death Riders was such a bad decision. He at least had some fanfare as a face, and his dance was his trademark. He just looks out of place now and his ring attire is terrible.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by TXRunner

I don't understand the appeal of Sasha Banks, er Mercedes Mone. The whole collecting belts thing is stale.

I still tune in each week, but I feel like AEW is missing something. There isn't that storyline that has me excited to tune in. I just tune in and fast forward. My favorite thing right now is the new intro video for the Conglomeration.

With no Jericho, no Swerve, no Ospreay, I feel like that major player is missing. Hangman is fine. When it's Hangman and Swerve, that was good.

I think the last storyline that I was really excited to tune in for was when MJF and Adam Cole did the whole friends/tag team thing. That too me was gold for AEW.

Sasha Banks is my 2nd favorite wrestler of all time. The first match I ever watched was her Takeover match against Charlotte Flair. It was the first time I tuned in to NXT because I wanted to see if Charlotte was worth the hype. Sasha became my favorite active wrestler from match one. One of my biggest wrestling regrets is not going to Takeover Brooklyn.

I really don't know how to feel about Mercedes Mone. I still like her but her promos are much worse now than in WWE, She has had some great matches in AEW, especially the 2 against Statlander, but I cared so much more about Sasha in WWE and NXT. Sasha Banks lost countless matches she should have won in WWE. No one in the history of wrestling has ever lost on their first world title defense 3 times probably at any point. She lost on her first title defense 4 times. In a row. No one will ever do that again as long as wrestling exists.

Now it's the opposite. She's won all these matches and it's ridiculous. The one match she did lose made no sense. How did her losing to Toni Storm help anyone or the company? Now if Mercedes won that match, main evented against Stat at Full Gear, and Stat beats the unbeatable in a PPV main event then you have something. Stat would have been made. Instead Stat wins on a fluke row up in a 4 way after Toni Storm pins 2 women clean in the middle back to back PPVs that had 1 total lose in countless years. And it all helped no one.

As you mentioned, I also fast forward through as much now as I ever have. AEW the first 4 or 5 years I was watching as much of the weekly shows as any weekly wrestling shows in probably close to 20 years.

I liked the MJF vs Cole storyline too until the wet fart ending and everything after. The 1 feud they blew they should have had her is MJF vs Darby. That match at Full Gear 2021 was unbelievable. They had this story of MJF beating Darby twice with a headlock takeover. They should have had Darby beat MJF for the title at some point.

Or instead last year they could have given Darby his dream match. Darby vs Danielson near their hometowns in Washington state. The match would have torn the building down. Danielson retiring and passing the torch to Darby. Instead it was Moxley vs Danielson in the worst match of Danielson's AEW career. If it is his actual last match, one of the worst booked in advance endings to a career ever. We got saddled with close to a year of one of the worst title reigns in history. By pound for pound the worst wrestler in the world, Jon Moxley.

[packman80]

On radio other day talking about how does Mone lose all the titles? Does she actually take the pin or does she just drop all the titles saying she's going to focus on one title saying she wins the AEW womens title?

[jmarascojr]

From what I've read/heard, the plan is for her to start losing each belt one at a time until she's left with nothing...

Goes from 10 to 0 and she loses her mind/paranoia wondering if she'll ever win anything again...

Be a great way for her to give 8-9-10 up and comers the rub, but does each place have one of those to begin with?

Originally Posted by packman80

On radio other day talking about how does Mone lose all the titles? Does she actually take the pin or does she just drop all the titles saying she's going to focus on one title saying she wins the AEW womens title?

[TXRunner]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

From what I've read/heard, the plan is for her to start losing each belt one at a time until she's left with nothing...

Goes from 10 to 0 and she loses her mind/paranoia wondering if she'll ever win anything again...

Be a great way for her to give 8-9-10 up and comers the rub, but does each place have one of those to begin with?

I would like to see her have a match for all the marbles. Every title on the line. Then whoever the challenger is beats her. That person gets a big ol celebration the next Dynamite. Then says they are going to vacate all the titles except the AEW title. Saying that by relinquishing the titles they are giving opportunity to people who are hungry and up and coming. Then let each company decide how they want to crown new champions.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by TXRunner

I would like to see her have a match for all the marbles. Every title on the line. Then whoever the challenger is beats her. That person gets a big ol celebration the next Dynamite. Then says they are going to vacate all the titles except the AEW title. Saying that by relinquishing the titles they are giving opportunity to people who are hungry and up and coming. Then let each company decide how they want to crown new champions.

That would be great if Tony Khan wasn't a moron. You had the perfect setup for this. Stat already lost twice to Mone in 2 amazing matches. Statlander never won the world title. Say Stat can't win the big one as she's been there since day 1 and never won the world title.

Before this, Mone beats Toni Storm clean in the middle at All In. Stays undefeated. Has way more momentum and people rooting against her. Mone vs Stat at Full Gear. First ever women's main event on an AEW PPV. Mone undefeated vs the fan favorite that has never won the world title. Stat goes over Mone clean in the middle. Probably one of the best matches of the year. Statlander is made as a star. But why do that when you can do the booking Tony Khan has done instead? Something that even if Statlander wins the way she won the title and the way she will beat Mone mean a fraction of what they could have meant. Guy is an idiot.

[BlowoutBuzz]

The only highlights these days on AEW are Storm, Shirakawa, Cameron and the puppet, who demolishes the former Banks (who I used to like and collect) perfectly. (And even they are having a lull right now.)

[BlowoutBuzz]

Originally Posted by TXRunner

I don't understand the appeal of Sasha Banks, er Mercedes Mone. The whole collecting belts thing is stale.

It's not even stale ... it's a lame cliche at this point.

[Jaypers]

Interesting tidbit - newly elected mayor of NYC Zohran Mamdani is shown in a now viral video taped in 2021 in the stands watching Grand Slam, in particular the Danielson vs. Omega match.

Wasn't aware he was a wrestling fan.

[Campbelljh3]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Interesting tidbit - newly elected mayor of NYC Zohran Mamdani is shown in a now viral video taped in 2021 in the stands watching Grand Slam, in particular the Danielson vs. Omega match.

Wasn't aware he was a wrestling fan.

Good lord, he attends another event and that’s nail in coffin for me and aew, it has been pathetic at best anymore! Only upside is development of wrestlers who can possibly get signed by WWE some day.