Are we about to see the greatest SB halftime show ever?

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

Just because you don’t know who someone is, doesn’t make them a no name. The NFL is going to get people who don’t normally watch football tune in for that halftime show.

[SandStoneSports]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

If your reaction to Bad Bunny being the halftime show at the Super Bowl isn't one of the following 3 choices you need to prioritize things better in your life.
They 3 choices are-
1. Who is Bad Bunny?
2. Awesome
3. I dont watch the halftime show.
This has nothing to do with the NFL or the game. It has EVERYTHING to do with future revenue. They want non football fans to watch and spend their money.
Same with Taylor Swift. Her fans the majority of which didn't watch football poured over 1 billion dollars into the NFL last year. And if Kelce breaks off the engagement her fans will try to cripple the NFL.

I keep seeing this metric about her fans pouring 1 billion dollars into the NFL. Its not true in the least. Her fans didn't put money into the NFL, business sites like yahoo finance use the 1-billion-dollar metric as what her appearance on TV brought the NFL in "total equivalent brand value." Total equivalent brand value is the financial worth of a brand beyond cash value, including intangible assets like goodwill and fan perception. In other words, nonsense.

Do you know how many Travis Kelce jerseys and Chiefs tickets Swifties would have to buy to bring in 1 billion dollars in revenue to the NFL? Beyond that her impact on the NFL and its "total equivalent brand value" isnt a sustainable resource for the NFL. Once Kelce retires, or her fans turn 18, outside of a few weirdos, that "brand impact" goes away. The Swifties could never "cripple" the NFL because her impact on it isnt real life dollars. Those dollars come from guys who buy tickets, jerseys, red zone, etc on a yearly basis. Whats going to ultimately cripple the NFL is pricing the average football fan out of the league. The place where intangible and tangible meet.

[Chrominator]

Halftime is for the ladies & the ladyboys, pure & simple.

[fabiani12333]

As expected, the choice for the Super Bowl performer has created a sh*t storm -- the politics surrounding it is overshadowing the show. Jay Z and the NFL brought this on themselves -- they knew the choice of Bad Bunny would invite a lot of controversy.

I'm not saying a Spanish-speaking artist can't ever make sense for the Super Bowl, but the choice of Bad Bunny seems more of a social and political statement than a business decision. The Super Bowl is supposed to be the preeminent sporting event in the US. Therefore, the choice for performer should be first-and-foremost popular with and accessible to the majority of the US audience -- not Latin America.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by SandStoneSports

I keep seeing this metric about her fans pouring 1 billion dollars into the NFL. Its not true in the least. Her fans didn't put money into the NFL, business sites like yahoo finance use the 1-billion-dollar metric as what her appearance on TV brought the NFL in "total equivalent brand value." Total equivalent brand value is the financial worth of a brand beyond cash value, including intangible assets like goodwill and fan perception. In other words, nonsense.

Do you know how many Travis Kelce jerseys and Chiefs tickets Swifties would have to buy to bring in 1 billion dollars in revenue to the NFL? Beyond that her impact on the NFL and its "total equivalent brand value" isnt a sustainable resource for the NFL. Once Kelce retires, or her fans turn 18, outside of a few weirdos, that "brand impact" goes away. The Swifties could never "cripple" the NFL because her impact on it isnt real life dollars. Those dollars come from guys who buy tickets, jerseys, red zone, etc on a yearly basis. Whats going to ultimately cripple the NFL is pricing the average football fan out of the league. The place where intangible and tangible meet.

Weird take. I never said her fans brought in a billion but they did bring in mutli millions of dollars into the NFL's pockets. Only an idiot would believe they could cripple the NFL. Hyperbole. Look it up.
They would try to though because her hardcore fans are cult like.

[SandStoneSports]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Weird take. I never said her fans brought in a billion but they did bring in mutli millions of dollars into the NFL's pockets. Only an idiot would believe they could cripple the NFL. Hyperbole. Look it up.
They would try to though because her hardcore fans are cult like.

From your original post

Her fans the majority of which didn't watch football poured over 1 billion dollars into the NFL last year

And if Kelce breaks off the engagement her fans will try to cripple the NFL.

This hyperbole you speak of is it some exotic word they only teach in secret societies?

[jcp2]

I can't read all this but i will say as an almost 50 white guy, i just have no clue who this guys is. I listen to metal and no rap unless they are they called the Wu Tang Clan. The demo of the NFL is probably the exact opposite demo of his fans. I will probably smoke a joint at halftime and shove as much food in my face as possible. I also don't like music in other languages, but that is just me. I hope people enjoy it.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

As expected, the choice for the Super Bowl performer has created a sh*t storm -- the politics surrounding it is overshadowing the show. Jay Z and the NFL brought this on themselves -- they knew the choice of Bad Bunny would invite a lot of controversy.

I'm not saying a Spanish-speaking artist can't ever make sense for the Super Bowl, but the choice of Bad Bunny seems more of a social and political statement than a business decision. The Super Bowl is supposed to be the preeminent sporting event in the US. Therefore, the choice for performer should be first-and-foremost popular with and accessible to the majority of the US audience -- not Latin America.

Did you feel the same when Katy Perry and Madonna performed? I don’t think too many middle aged men listen to them…maybe I am mistaken?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Halftime is for the ladies & the ladyboys, pure & simple.

This x100000000

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Did you feel the same when Katy Perry and Madonna performed? I don’t think too many middle aged men listen to them…maybe I am mistaken?

I didn't. Madonna was a pop-star icon in both the US and internationally. She was popular with multiple generations. It was well past her time, but she made a lot of sense for an event like the Super Bowl.

Katy Perry was in my age demo and a big star in the US at the time. Obviously, she appealed to the younger demo, but she was widely known in the US at that point.

[codered]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

As expected, the choice for the Super Bowl performer has created a sh*t storm -- the politics surrounding it is overshadowing the show. Jay Z and the NFL brought this on themselves -- they knew the choice of Bad Bunny would invite a lot of controversy.

I'm not saying a Spanish-speaking artist can't ever make sense for the Super Bowl, but the choice of Bad Bunny seems more of a social and political statement than a business decision. The Super Bowl is supposed to be the preeminent sporting event in the US. Therefore, the choice for performer should be first-and-foremost popular with and accessible to the majority of the US audience -- not Latin America.

It’s hard to argue against this. I mean if they really really wanted international appeal that would grow the market to an audience outside of the typical American football audience why not a K-pop act or a group of k-pop performances? I mean that’s pretty much bigger than anything right now. I thought Jay-Z wasn’t a businessman, he’s a business, man.

Side note the CFL just got MGK for their grey cup halftime show. Wonder if he would have been a more popular choice for Super Bowl even though he’s not a big of a star

[patchgenie]

Originally Posted by codered

It’s hard to argue against this. I mean if they really really wanted international appeal that would grow the market to an audience outside of the typical American football audience why not a K-pop act or a group of k-pop performances? I mean that’s pretty much bigger than anything right now. I thought Jay-Z wasn’t a businessman, he’s a business, man.

Side note the CFL just got MGK for their grey cup halftime show. Wonder if he would have been a more popular choice for Super Bowl even though he’s not a big of a star

he's more teen rock, so no.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I didn't. Madonna was a pop-star icon in both the US and internationally. She was popular with multiple generations. It was well past her time, but she made a lot of sense for an event like the Super Bowl.

Katy Perry was in my age demo and a big star in the US at the time. Obviously, she appealed to the younger demo, but she was widely known in the US at that point.

Bad Bunny is all those things too. He is currently sixth on the Billboard 100. https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/

I would think he also sells out stadiums when he does perform in the States and probably on top of streaming charts as well.

[Siberian13]

To answer the OP’s question, no we will not

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Bad Bunny is all those things too. He is currently sixth on the Billboard 100. https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/

I would think he also sells out stadiums when he does perform in the States and probably on top of streaming charts as well.

The mainstream music industry isn't what it once was -- being high on the Billboard 100 doesn't mean a whole lot nowadays.

I remember watching a recent video on Youtube discuss how modern mainstream artists don't sell-out large stadiums anymore -- young people are not attending shows like past generations.

The music industry is on the decline, unfortunately.

[AnthonyCorona]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The mainstream music industry isn't what it once was -- being high on the Billboard 100 doesn't mean a whole lot nowadays.

I remember watching a recent video on Youtube discuss how modern mainstream artists don't sell-out large stadiums anymore -- young people are not attending shows like past generations.

The music industry is on the decline, unfortunately.

My wife and I were going to go to a Bad Bunny concert when he was in Oakland. Not many seats were available and the nose bleeds were $350. He is about to go on a World Tour after doing 30 or so concerts in Puerto Rico

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

My wife and I were going to go to a Bad Bunny concert when he was in Oakland. Not many seats were available and the nose bleeds were $350. He is about to go on a World Tour after doing 30 or so concerts in Puerto Rico

Well, that's probably because there is a high concentration of Latinos in the area. $350 in the nosebleeds is crazy, though.

[the mesiah]

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[JRX]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Well, that's probably because there is a high concentration of Latinos in the area. $350 in the nosebleeds is crazy, though.

The actual price is probably 35 then 315 in ticketmaster fees lol.

[jdandns]

There are some artists everybody would love that I don't think would do this show for any amount of cash, for instance, Pearl Jam, ABBA, or the remaining two Beastie Boys. Radiohead was mentioned above. No way they'd do it. Duran Duran might be game, maybe Smashing Pumpkins. I think a lot more people would be happier with 3 or 4 popular artists doing a song or two each, instead of one act doing the full show.

NFL should ask the B-52s and DEVO to do it next year. Lots of high energy fan favorite songs there and the two groups are playing shows together even now. Weird Al could intro them with a quick medley of his big hits on accordion.

But just take your Bad Bunny already. Have a couple of actual drinks during the Super Bowl, not the usual beer and salted foods. Don't wear your restrictive football gear, just regular clothes. You'll be dancin' by the end of it.

[Fulmer4MVP]

Originally Posted by the mesiah

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George Strait? I would rather listen to 30 straight minutes of the Barney song.

[Donkaylove]

Chris Stapleton has the range of songs and the voice for a halftime show. Easy duet songs with whoever.

[fabiani12333]

Taylor Swift was the right choice. Her popularity spans multiple generations at this point. She isn't getting any younger, being in her mid-30s now. She just released a new album and will be touring again. She is already associated with the NFL, being engaged to a Pro Bowler and Super Bowl champion.

It doesn't make sense that female artists like Madonna and Lady Gaga have performed at the Super Bowl, but Tay-Tay hasn't. Heck, even Shania Twain headlined the Super Bowl Halftime Show back in the day.

This was a major flub by Jay-Z and the league -- they should have caved into her demands, whatever they were; Bad Bunny will still be around next year to perform if his popularity continues to improve and he decides to tour in the US again.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Donkaylove

Chris Stapleton has the range of songs and the voice for a halftime show. Easy duet songs with whoever.

Whoever?

I'm all in for a Chris Stapleton/Nicki Minaj duet of Blow or White Horse

[BigL7370]

Originally Posted by codered

It’s hard to argue against this. I mean if they really really wanted international appeal that would grow the market to an audience outside of the typical American football audience why not a K-pop act or a group of k-pop performances? I mean that’s pretty much bigger than anything right now. I thought Jay-Z wasn’t a businessman, he’s a business, man.

Side note the CFL just got MGK for their grey cup halftime show. Wonder if he would have been a more popular choice for Super Bowl even though he’s not a big of a star

MGK would have probably the white choice over this Bad Bunny.