2025 Topps Chrome Disney

[jkampis]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Go read the past in this thread, Monty Club, and the threads that had EQL the past 2 months. The vast majority of people are not ribbing about it. They are dead serious.

You realize that at the end of the day it’s not really about your EQL success, don’t you?

[Chrominator]

Don't hate the player, hate the game

[DynaEtch]

Good lord what has this “hobby” become. Same thing in every Topps related thread. Biggest, pinkest, elephant Ive ever seen lumbering around in these threads. What is going on with these Topps releases. The posts speak for themselves- this is not about collecting Topps cards.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Good lord what has this “hobby” become. Same thing in every Topps related thread. Biggest, pinkest, elephant Ive ever seen lumbering around in these threads. What is going on with these Topps releases. The posts speak for themselves- this is not about collecting Topps cards.

Hasn't been for a long, long time. I remember seeing countless box breaks in the break section. I don't even bother now since the rare opening is usually posted in the hobby talk section. This hobby is not a hobby since 2020 which sucks.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I did stop crying and posting about it. I felt I had no choice but to comment because in every thread for 2+ months he is posting it and more and more people are saying it. Go look at how much I've commented in those threads about this. I don't think I posted one time about it for 2+ months. The pos is the one saying it in every thread.

The route I should go is just stop posting on here period. It's a huge waste of time and a headache.

Haha, I believe it. For what it's worth, I noticed that I hadn't seen any of your posts recently ("crying" or not) and started to wonder if everything was OK on your end. Glad you seem to be OK otherwise.

Originally Posted by jkampis

It’s incredible how upset he gets at a little online ribbing.

Hahaha! :P

Originally Posted by mossoholic

That's 3 of the 6 then if you didn't enter WWE Finest and Wonder. So the absolute best you could have done was 3 for 19 of the ones I went 6 for 25 on. See how this is adding up now? Many people weren't entering Wonder, WWE Finest, Disney Chrome (especially the higher cost I won at. I lost at the lower cost), and Spongebob.

I've won 3 big ones since EQL started. Out of what I would say are 30ish big ones. I've never won cases. Yet someone won a case and boxes on Disney Sapphire today. Which should be impossible on a release like that.

There's still a statistically significant difference between going 3 for 19 vs. 0-1 for 19 (or 25).

But the real reason why people are chirping is because you've won A LOT more than others yet you've complained about the system A LOT more than others and you've downplayed your wins (when others have only lost). But yeah, you've toned it down recently so it'll eventually dissipate.

Also, people like to mess with you but I don't think many actually "hate" or "dislike" you. I, for one, like you and your posts (when it's not full of whines). You're pretty logical and have a lot of good stuff to say/share. I'm sure a number of others feel the same, you just get riled up about stuff that makes it easy/fun for people to continue chirping lol.

[yiguiri2002]

Question as a noob on this section:

Does Topps have enough good products for people to miss on EQL this often? It's insane that they had 20 products in 2 months and they were all underpriced. I've mostly collected basketball and soccer (which was like 80% Panini) so I had no idea this was happening.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Question as a noob on this section:

Does Topps have enough good products for people to miss on EQL this often? It's insane that they had 20 products in 2 months and they were all underpriced. I've mostly collected basketball and soccer (which was like 80% Panini) so I had no idea this was happening.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Question as a noob on this section:

Does Topps have enough good products for people to miss on EQL this often? It's insane that they had 20 products in 2 months and they were all underpriced. I've mostly collected basketball and soccer (which was like 80% Panini) so I had no idea this was happening.

It's all part of the overall strategy to foment FOMO, manufacture and project scarcity to drive sales.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I remember seeing countless box breaks in the break section. I don't even bother now since the rare opening is usually posted in the hobby talk section. This hobby is not a hobby since 2020 which sucks.

I can count on one hand the number of boxes I've opened in the past year.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by dd316

I can count on one hand the number of boxes I've opened in the past year.

Ditto and they were all Magic the Gathering boxes.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Question as a noob on this section:

Does Topps have enough good products for people to miss on EQL this often? It's insane that they had 20 products in 2 months and they were all underpriced. I've mostly collected basketball and soccer (which was like 80% Panini) so I had no idea this was happening.

You haven't been following this? What's happening is on most in demand products is they are allotting a certain amount of product at a low price to dealers/breakers or via EQL. They hold the rest back and then sell under the table to the money tree members later at a higher price. This is why they won't auction because they figure this is a better strategy.

They also sometimes later on list on Fanatics site at a price that is market or most likely higher. My Fanatics rep has tried to sell me some of these products several times usually my total cost would be above market. If I was offered the same price the other guys are with some room I would buy. But of course I'm not even if Im willing to spend 6 figures on 1 product. It could be several weeks later or months later. Just whenever they feel is the best time to sell.

If Topps was selling the full product run via EQL many more people would be winning. Most is sold before release to dealers/breakers for less. Then later on to them at a much higher price but still enough room for them to profit.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Haha, I believe it. For what it's worth, I noticed that I hadn't seen any of your posts recently ("crying" or not) and started to wonder if everything was OK on your end. Glad you seem to be OK otherwise.



Hahaha! :P



There's still a statistically significant difference between going 3 for 19 vs. 0-1 for 19 (or 25).

But the real reason why people are chirping is because you've won A LOT more than others yet you've complained about the system A LOT more than others and you've downplayed your wins (when others have only lost). But yeah, you've toned it down recently so it'll eventually dissipate.

Also, people like to mess with you but I don't think many actually "hate" or "dislike" you. I, for one, like you and your posts (when it's not full of whines). You're pretty logical and have a lot of good stuff to say/share. I'm sure a number of others feel the same, you just get riled up about stuff that makes it easy/fun for people to continue chirping lol.

Most of those people going 0 for an astronomical amount (20+) are only entering the good ones or are having their card declined. Whether they realize it or not many people's cards are declined and then you automatically don't get it. EQL doesn't give you a chance to pay with a different payment method you just lose.

Had I deemed a little bit here and there wasn't worth entering I would be something like 4 for 40+. That's less than 10%. But I enter almost everything. I doubt there was a single person that entered boxes of Finest WWE, Spongebob, Disney Wonder, and Disney Chrome that was 0 for 7 and actually lost without a card being declined every time. To many people all or most of those by the box and not case wasn't worth the time and effort.

Look at the few comments in the Diamond Icons thread. You follow this stuff and you didn't even think it was worth the risk. What do you think the average person in the hobby thought with no obvious to most resale value at that point? It's been 1 day and it's already at well over $3000 profit from a 5 box order. You would have been better off with that then all but 2 or 3 EQL box winners the entire year. It will be higher.

I can't remember when Fanatics started having product drops but I know I entered for Bowman's Best boxes and was surprised I didn't win. That was at the beginning of the year. Today was the first Fanatics drop I entered and won. 2 total boxes of Topps basketball hobby. There is no way I can see to track entries but in 9-10 months how many have I entered and lost? I'm probably 1 for 20 something or worse. I also lost WWE Finest and Spongebob on those drops.

I absolutely hate this system. I've said it since the beginning. I'd rather have fair auctions on all these EQL products then be guaranteed 3 to 5 boxes on every single one. Even being guaranteed the 3-5 boxes I know overall I would do much better on auctions. The biggest issue for someone in my spot now is good luck or bad you can't get the quantity from Topps. If you knew how I've done on Panini auctions the last 6 years you would not doubt this at all.

Thanks for the nice comments btw.

[finfangfan]

I think most people are just jealous. If others had an insider to help cheat the system I am sure they would do the exact same thing you are doing.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

I think most people are just jealous. If others had an insider to help cheat the system I am sure they would do the exact same thing you are doing.

People are jealous of someone cheating the system to get boxes of Mickey Mouse cards?

I think I can say with great certainty that I picked the absolute BEST time to get out of this "hobby".

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

You haven't been following this? What's happening is on most in demand products is they are allotting a certain amount of product at a low price to dealers/breakers or via EQL. They hold the rest back and then sell under the table to the money tree members later at a higher price. This is why they won't auction because they figure this is a better strategy.

They also sometimes later on list on Fanatics site at a price that is market or most likely higher. My Fanatics rep has tried to sell me some of these products several times usually my total cost would be above market. If I was offered the same price the other guys are with some room I would buy. But of course I'm not even if Im willing to spend 6 figures on 1 product. It could be several weeks later or months later. Just whenever they feel is the best time to sell.

If Topps was selling the full product run via EQL many more people would be winning. Most is sold before release to dealers/breakers for less. Then later on to them at a much higher price but still enough room for them to profit.

I really haven't been following EQL because I don't collect Topps. Mostly because they don't have a license for the stuff I collect (until now).

But my point isn't about whether they are backdooring product (although it's not technically a backdoor). You claim you're 3/19 on desirable products in the last month. I had no idea Topps releases 20 SKU a month that are sought upon, that seems like an insanely high number.

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I had no idea Topps releases 20 SKU a month that are sought upon, that seems like an insanely high number.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I really haven't been following EQL because I don't collect Topps. Mostly because they don't have a license for the stuff I collect (until now).

But my point isn't about whether they are backdooring product (although it's not technically a backdoor). You claim you're 3/19 on desirable products in the last month. I had no idea Topps releases 20 SKU a month that are sought upon, that seems like an insanely high number.

I'm not 3 for 19 on desirable products. I'm something like 4 for 40+. I've never won on cases. They have been running EQL well over a year. In terms of just winning I'm 6 for my last 25. That is a very high number compared to most but that's because I'm entering ones that most do not want because they have very minimal if any resale value to most people. 2 of the 6 I won were worth basically exactly what I paid.

Topps isn't releasing 20 in demand products a month lol. I don't think they are releasing 20 hobby products per month period. Maybe that will change when they have the 3 major licenses but they seem to somehow be way behind without having basketball and football.

I have no way of checking but there have probably been around 70 total EQL entry opportunity since August of last year. Most of those had box and case options but some only box options. As time has went on they have also lowered the case and box amounts you can enter for on some. As Im sure more people will continue to complain they will most likely continue to lower limits until it's down to 1 or no cases and 1-3 boxes on every release.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I'm not 3 for 19 on desirable products. I'm something like 4 for 40+. I've never won on cases. They have been running EQL well over a year. In terms of just winning I'm 6 for my last 25. That is a very high number compared to most but that's because I'm entering ones that most do not want because they have very minimal if any resale value to most people. 2 of the 6 I won were worth basically exactly what I paid.

Topps isn't releasing 20 in demand products a month lol. I don't think they are releasing 20 hobby products per month period. Maybe that will change when they have the 3 major licenses but they seem to somehow be way behind without having basketball and football.

I have no way of checking but there have probably been around 70 total EQL entry opportunity since August of last year. Most of those had box and case options but some only box options. As time has went on they have also lowered the case and box amounts you can enter for on some. As Im sure more people will continue to complain they will most likely continue to lower limits until it's down to 1 or no cases and 1-3 boxes on every release.

Looking at the list that was posted (I have no way of knowing how complete it is), I entered all of those myself except for Disney Wonder. I think almost all of those products at the time were going for more than what Fanatics was asking.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Ditto and they were all Magic the Gathering boxes.

Yeah, 2 that I opened were over 20 years old. Nothing was "new" at the time.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I'm not 3 for 19 on desirable products. I'm something like 4 for 40+. I've never won on cases. They have been running EQL well over a year. In terms of just winning I'm 6 for my last 25. That is a very high number compared to most but that's because I'm entering ones that most do not want because they have very minimal if any resale value to most people. 2 of the 6 I won were worth basically exactly what I paid.

Topps isn't releasing 20 in demand products a month lol. I don't think they are releasing 20 hobby products per month period. Maybe that will change when they have the 3 major licenses but they seem to somehow be way behind without having basketball and football.

I have no way of checking but there have probably been around 70 total EQL entry opportunity since August of last year. Most of those had box and case options but some only box options. As time has went on they have also lowered the case and box amounts you can enter for on some. As Im sure more people will continue to complain they will most likely continue to lower limits until it's down to 1 or no cases and 1-3 boxes on every release.

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Looking at the list that was posted (I have no way of knowing how complete it is), I entered all of those myself except for Disney Wonder. I think almost all of those products at the time were going for more than what Fanatics was asking.

Yeah, that's where I'm coming from. 3 from 19 would take it back to a month back. So, my assumption is that Topps is releasing around 20 SKUs a month via EQL that are desirable (their price is significantly lower than their market sale price).

[Xazark]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/257166905314 Scrooge McDuck Sketch auction just finished and sold for a whopping $7307 !!

I mean its a nice sketch and all but wow that seems like a lot...

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Xazark

https://www.ebay.com/itm/257166905314 Scrooge McDuck Sketch auction just finished and sold for a whopping $7307 !!

I mean its a nice sketch and all but wow that seems like a lot...

That's a REALLY nice sketch card. I'm not saying its worth that price, but like I mentioned before, I could see the Scrooge stuff being a coffee table flex piece for someone with money who likes Disney. That artist is talented.