The Official 2025 World Series Thread: Los Angeles Dodgers VS Toronto Blue Jays

[Melagoo]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

When I looked up Hoffman’s numbers for this year and saw he allowed 15 of them I knew he was going to blow it. Guy is going to be treated like Mitch Williams now.

... yup

[The Accountant]

Different sport, but Ngl it’s kind of nice the Toronto fans can feel a worse pain than the Kawhi Leonard game 7 shot that haunts me to this day. Can confidently say the pain doesn’t ever go away for real fans

Sorry for the true baseball, non-raptors fans though

[jhssketchcards]

Was hoping Ohatni would have won a WS game.


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[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

But it was the Dodgers' pitchers who kept the game close after Ohtani gave up the 3-run homer to Bichette in the third inning -- only 1 run allowed in 8.2 innings pitched.

It was the elite and expensive starters that carried the day -- Glasnow, Snell and Yamamoto. Somehow Yamamoto got out of two jams with the winning runner on 3B and less than two outs -- he's a magician.

I believe Yamamoto has potential for CY more than Ohtani


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[base set]

I too love the expression “game of inches” but it is really a game of quarter and eighth inches with the ball’s ‘movement at the plate’ and also the swing plane of the batter.

Anyhow this was one of those Series that really makes the 3 years of a 9 Game WS (1919-1921) very understandable.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Different sport, but Ngl it’s kind of nice the Toronto fans can feel a worse pain than the Kawhi Leonard game 7 shot that haunts me to this day. Can confidently say the pain doesn’t ever go away for real fans

Sorry for the true baseball, non-raptors fans though

We've been spoiled. The Leafs are what they are, but to have the Jays make two World Series appearance prior and the Raptors make it to one NBA Final and winning all three, losing this is humbling. Still, the Jays weren't supposed to be there. Toronto fans can feel the sting of the loss, but MAN did this team make us proud.

Congrats to the Dodgers. This was a hell of a World Series.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Do Topps Now cards ever hold value?

Modern ones, no. Unless you think some will BGS black label.

[FatButcher]

Haven't gone back through the thread all the way, what are the thoughts on IKF's lead, or rather lack of lead or secondary on the force out at the plate?

It's a simple thing we teach little league kids and it decided a World Series. Crazy. Amazing series regardless as someone without a rooting interest I could not have enjoyed that more.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by FatButcher

Haven't gone back through the thread all the way, what are the thoughts on IKF's lead, or rather lack of lead or secondary on the force out at the plate?

It's a simple thing we teach little league kids and it decided a World Series. Crazy. Amazing series regardless as someone without a rooting interest I could not have enjoyed that more.

He should have taken a secondary one end of story. Rojas did not have a good grip and he PROBABLY would have been safe at home

[coltsnsox07]

Up 3 games to 2 going home and lose both on game ending double plays(when it looked like you're about to tie or win each) is a tough pill to swallow for Jays fans.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by FatButcher

Haven't gone back through the thread all the way, what are the thoughts on IKF's lead, or rather lack of lead or secondary on the force out at the plate?

It's a simple thing we teach little league kids and it decided a World Series. Crazy. Amazing series regardless as someone without a rooting interest I could not have enjoyed that more.

Yeah, he should’ve been farther off. ALSO, IKF should’ve slid head first. The extra nanosecond could’ve allowed him to touch the plate before Smith’s foot came back down.

This moment, and Nathan Lukes swinging at Ball Four with the bases loaded in the 18-inning game, are two moments I can’t get out of my head.


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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Triple B

We've been spoiled. The Leafs are what they are, but to have the Jays make two World Series appearance prior and the Raptors make it to one NBA Final and winning all three, losing this is humbling. Still, the Jays weren't supposed to be there. Toronto fans can feel the sting of the loss, but MAN did this team make us proud.

Congrats to the Dodgers. This was a hell of a World Series.

Yeah, but this has to be a soul-crushing loss for Jays fans. The trophy was right at their fingertips -- they had a 91% win-probability in the top of 9th, and then a 83% win probability in the bottom of the 9th. All they needed was a sac fly and the championship was theirs -- brutal.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by FatButcher

Haven't gone back through the thread all the way, what are the thoughts on IKF's lead, or rather lack of lead or secondary on the force out at the plate?

It's a simple thing we teach little league kids and it decided a World Series. Crazy. Amazing series regardless as someone without a rooting interest I could not have enjoyed that more.

I had not seen that angle before. Yikes.

[Rememberthepast]

Originally Posted by FatButcher

Haven't gone back through the thread all the way, what are the thoughts on IKF's lead, or rather lack of lead or secondary on the force out at the plate?

It's a simple thing we teach little league kids and it decided a World Series. Crazy. Amazing series regardless as someone without a rooting interest I could not have enjoyed that more.

A few things here;

1. IKF cannot have a lead greater than his ability to get back to third on a throw from the catcher or greater than the distance Max Muncy is from third in order to beat Muncy back to the base on a throw. Can he get another step? Probably.

BUT….

2. The pic shows Yamamoto about to release the ball. So where is IKF as the ball crosses the plate and is he in an athletic position to run?

[49erRCCollector]

What a great series. Still high off watching that win.

[marl1220]

This was one hell of a series. Maybe one of the best ever. And game 7 is no doubt a classic. The best team won. Toronto has nothing to be embarrassed about and everything to be proud of. They faced a team that threw 4 aces at them in a game seven, and still, almost won. Money won out over guts.

Pointing fingers and saying "this" or "that" is the reason Toronto lost is wrong. You could find those moments in every game they lost during this series. No "one" play led to their defeat.

[Bcr]

To be fair the Blue Jays mainly did a lot of the damage to themselves in this series. The base running was really bad at times.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by Rememberthepast

A few things here;

1. IKF cannot have a lead greater than his ability to get back to third on a throw from the catcher or greater than the distance Max Muncy is from third in order to beat Muncy back to the base on a throw. Can he get another step? Probably.

BUT….

2. The pic shows Yamamoto about to release the ball. So where is IKF as the ball crosses the plate and is he in an athletic position to run?

Aside from a bigger lead, should he have been running with the pitch and stop if no contact?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Rememberthepast

A few things here;

1. IKF cannot have a lead greater than his ability to get back to third on a throw from the catcher or greater than the distance Max Muncy is from third in order to beat Muncy back to the base on a throw. Can he get another step? Probably.

BUT….

2. The pic shows Yamamoto about to release the ball. So where is IKF as the ball crosses the plate and is he in an athletic position to run?

For those who didn't play ball -- a base runner takes a primary lead off the base, then a secondary lead as the pitcher is throwing. IKF might have still been taking his secondary lead.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Bcr

The Dodgers batted .203 in the World Series, got outscored 34-26,

This is a wild stat.

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Better to be lucky than good in a short series. The timing of runs is more important than number of runs in a small sample. The Dodgers squeezed out two extra-inning wins in the series.

Well, when Yamamoto pitches, you don't need many runs.

Second greatest WS performance I've fortunately been able to witness (behind Bumgarner in 2014).

[kellmuff]

thats the worst loss in the history of north american pro sports right? Like from an absolute heartbreak and devastation perspective. I think the only thing that compares would be 28-3

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

thats the worst loss in the history of north american pro sports right? Like from an absolute heartbreak and devastation perspective. I think the only thing that compares would be 28-3

The Jays players were pressed up against the dugout wall ready to charge the field and celebrate before Rojas homered.

Pretty tough.

[FatButcher]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

For those who didn't play ball -- a base runner takes a primary lead off the base, then a secondary lead as the pitcher is throwing. IKF might have still been taking his secondary lead.

I did play ball and that's why it struck me.

With Muncy where he is, IKF should have a couple more steps and since Yamamoto is well into his delivery, he should also be leaning towards the plate at a minimum.

Lot's of other opportunities for Toronto, but this seems like a fundamental break down at a very critical time.

[FatButcher]

Found a video of the play in full. It was worse than I thought.

https://x.com/ChrisKirschner/status/1984844060654191006

[kidfan9]

As a Dodger fan I was worried about the force play at the plate and the possibility of the call being overturned. I didn’t have the volume up very much so I’m unsure about the final ruling…did Smith touch the plate the first time or the second time? Extremely close either way. Let’s go for three!!!!!