📈Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?📈

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Torro

I’ve been all around the world and I can tell you it feels safer in Russia, Arabic countries etc than in Illinois’s St Louis. I guess it will get worst with the gap between rich and people in poverty widens..

I've been all the around the world too, though I don't think I'll ever add Putinville to my bucket list.

Sharia law countries are extremely safe but are also accompanied with somewhat barbaric ideologies that can be viewed as quite restrictive/off putting to Westerners. If you're cool with them, then you're gravy.

To your second point: every country/city on earth has its good/bad areas. The bad are typically the only ones that receive media coverage. TV ratings don't thrive off hugs and positivity.

To your third point: yes, the widening wealth gap usually always leads to the decay of society. When you lose the ability to relate and connect, you lose the ability to build as a people. 'Us' vs 'them.'

[RKH916]

Time to stop beating around the bush. If you're still humming the following tunes:

"Diversity is our strength". "Multiculturalism is an innate good".

You're engaging in cognitive dissonance.

No need for any further discussion or false equivalencies.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I've been all the around the world too, though I don't think I'll ever add Putinville to my bucket list.

Sharia law countries are extremely safe but are also accompanied with somewhat barbaric ideologies that can be viewed as quite restrictive/off putting to Westerners. If you're cool with them, then you're gravy.

To your second point: every country/city on earth has its good/bad areas. The bad are typically the only ones that receive media coverage. TV ratings don't thrive off hugs and positivity.

To your third point: yes, the widening wealth gap usually always leads to the decay of society. When you lose the ability to relate and connect, you lose the ability to build as a people. 'Us' vs 'them.'

One thing is TV, other thing is actually being in the city yourself and some group of black people looking at you in the middle of the day with binoculars before driving by you casually with 6 big guys in the car and start asking random questions that don’t make any sense, at the same time hearing shots. Somehow manage to get away from that situation just to drive to the next block seeing 5 police and 2 ambulance (several people were shot), this kinda #@#@#@#@ does not happen in Russia for example (been there several times, the streets are nice and clean, people polite (knowing Russian language obviously helps, like knowing English in USA).

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Not specifically card-related, but it's pretty obvious that the stock market is in some sort of AI "bubble". So I've been taking some profits and moving more money into cash/bonds.

Just think of the % you could be making on the cash after selling those 2008 Classic Signatures rather than watching it all plummet in value. Do the smart thing!

[1980bust]

So, Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?

[Torro]

Originally Posted by 1980bust

So, Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?

Second tier all time greats from the golden area (Iverson, Shaq, VC15, Garnett, Mcgrady etc), they will follow MJ and Kobe like they did last time.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by 1980bust

So, Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?

I took an L on more than half of the 1954 Topps I was bidding on last night.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I've been all the around the world too, though I don't think I'll ever add Putinville to my bucket list.

My family took a Baltic Cruise about 6 or 7 years ago. It ported in St. Petersburg and stayed docked 2 days. So we spent a day there and then took a train to Moscow the second day. This was pre-war obviously, but it was unlike anywhere we have ever visited. And we have been to about 50 countries now. The thing that surprised us the most was how different the cities were. You have to have a tour guide with you the entire time or you wouldn't be allowed entry. Our guide in St. Petersburg was open and honest about the good and the bad in the country. And she basically said her city didn't like Putin or the way the government operated. Then, on the next day in Moscow, it was the complete opposite. We had a different guide and she did nothing but praise the ground he walked on like she was programmed by the government.

It was truly an amazing experience to actually see how people live and how they think in areas that you only see on the news. And when you see other places, the news is always skewed left or right. Its almost impossible to get anything straight and honest. As for safety, my daughter was still at home as it was before she got married, and my son was maybe 6 years old? It felt incredibly safe and everywhere we went was well maintained and clean. I would 10-1 feel safer there than I would in almost any Caribbean country. Again, we are talking pre-war, I wouldn't go right now.

I've learned to travel to places first, then determine with my own eyes and ears what the truth is. Places will surprise you, both in the good way and the bad way. Politics aside, no matter where you travel you have to remember that the majority of people just want to live their lives.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Have you seen what he posts on IG? Dude has unfortunately entered the twilight-zone of the extreme right. It sucks, too, because he has a ton of hobby knowledge and insight.

How many times have you replied to something I’ve posted to engage in a discussion about why what I posted is incorrect?

[Hellcat]

Originally Posted by Torro

Second tier all time greats from the golden area (Iverson, Shaq, VC15, Garnett, Mcgrady etc), they will follow MJ and Kobe like they did last time.

This time it's different. Only GOATa are running everyone is funneling their money into the select few thats why their prices are jumping so much. I wouldn't waste money on 2nd tier guys unless its for your PC.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

This time it's different. Only GOATa are running everyone is funneling their money into the select few thats why their prices are jumping so much. I wouldn't waste money on 2nd tier guys unless it’s for your PC.

And why is it different this time? The top 2 tier players like Shaq and Iverson been taking off already, it’s already happening. It’s just that people (that have money now) have similar nostalgia with these players as with MJ and Kobe. It’s cool stuff from cool sets that is highly collected and the prices for those great players seem really cheap compared to MJ/Kobe cards from same sets. In many cases my Iverson side PC cards are outperforming my Kobe PC (just some Iverson cards not as a whole).

If you meant speculative dollars towards new rookies and hyped current players, then yes people don’t do that #@#@#@#@ anymore and I doubt that something like at the time of pandemic will happen again. Less flippers who are joining this hobby to profit from the “the next GOAT” hype. I guess the flippers got burned the hardest in pandemic hype.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by premium1981

My family took a Baltic Cruise about 6 or 7 years ago. It ported in St. Petersburg and stayed docked 2 days. So we spent a day there and then took a train to Moscow the second day. This was pre-war obviously, but it was unlike anywhere we have ever visited. And we have been to about 50 countries now. The thing that surprised us the most was how different the cities were. You have to have a tour guide with you the entire time or you wouldn't be allowed entry. Our guide in St. Petersburg was open and honest about the good and the bad in the country. And she basically said her city didn't like Putin or the way the government operated. Then, on the next day in Moscow, it was the complete opposite. We had a different guide and she did nothing but praise the ground he walked on like she was programmed by the government.

It was truly an amazing experience to actually see how people live and how they think in areas that you only see on the news. And when you see other places, the news is always skewed left or right. Its almost impossible to get anything straight and honest. As for safety, my daughter was still at home as it was before she got married, and my son was maybe 6 years old? It felt incredibly safe and everywhere we went was well maintained and clean. I would 10-1 feel safer there than I would in almost any Caribbean country. Again, we are talking pre-war, I wouldn't go right now.

I've learned to travel to places first, then determine with my own eyes and ears what the truth is. Places will surprise you, both in the good way and the bad way. Politics aside, no matter where you travel you have to remember that the majority of people just want to live their lives.

My last visit to St Petersburg was also ~15 years ago, but I doubt it’s any different right now. If you are looking for trouble you will find it anywhere in the world, but if you mind your own business the streets are safer in Russia than in USA. Not sure why is it so hard to keep the streets safe in USA. Sure every city has those areas, but at night not at day light. Americans fear about their safety in some countries while it’s actually their hometown that is way more dangerous than any of those places they see in TV lol

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Torro

My last visit to St Petersburg was also ~15 years ago, but I doubt it’s any different right now. If you are looking for trouble you will find it anywhere in the world, but if you mind your own business the streets are safer in Russia than in USA. Not sure why is it so hard to keep the streets safe in USA. Sure every city has those areas, but at night not at day light. Americans fear about their safety in some countries while it’s actually their hometown that is way more dangerous than any of those places they see in TV lol

Tourist areas are pretty safe in all big cities. The locals don't visit the restaurants and attractions during the day. Just watch out for pickpockets. Illegals stabbing your toddler most likely won't be an issue. Now if you go to bars at 1 am in the morning in St Petersburg, trouble has a much better chance to find you.

I thought the hobby was dead. How come everyone keeps bidding me up in auctions? Must be shill bidders.

[boxbuster7]

read a pretty great nyt article on repacks def worth checking out

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/667...-card-repacks/

The one thing that stood out to me is courtyard me $78 million in one quarter. Eventually the people blowing money like they're at a vegas strip club will dry up.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

How many times have you replied to something I’ve posted to engage in a discussion about why what I posted is incorrect?

That is the beauty of unsubstantiated and hypothetical claims. They can't be proven to be incorrect.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Torro

Not sure why is it so hard to keep the streets safe in USA. Sure every city has those areas, but at night not at day light. Americans fear about their safety in some countries while it’s actually their hometown that is way more dangerous than any of those places they see in TV lol

Might have something to do with the 400-500 million guns floating around the USA......

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

read a pretty great nyt article on repacks def worth checking out

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/667...-card-repacks/

The one thing that stood out to me is courtyard me $78 million in one quarter. Eventually the people blowing money like they're at a vegas strip club will dry up.

The advertising will bring in new gamblers and new money. This is not a card hobby, this is just a blackjack alternative.

https://www.si.com/collectibles/aren...for-collectors

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

That is the beauty of unsubstantiated and hypothetical claims. They can't be proven to be incorrect.

"Can you prove that?"

"Uh, can you prove theyre not?"

A "conversational" pattern that repeats itself millions of times a day when talking to people sucked into the new age Rush Limbaughian rage machine where they think your inability to prove a negative is just as damning as their absence of proof for whatever weird claim they make that confirms their red-pilled head canon.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

"Can you prove that?"

"Uh, can you prove theyre not?"

A "conversational" pattern that repeats itself millions of times a day when talking to people sucked into the new age Rush Limbaughian rage machine where they think your inability to prove a negative is just as damning as their absence of proof for whatever weird claim they make that confirms their red-pilled head canon.

It is now trying to infiltrate the scientific community. Avi Loeb has either lost his mind or he knows exactly what he is doing to become famous. The voice of one Harvard scientist, oops I meant pseudoscientist, has made a mockery in the field I work in. Prove to me that "comet" 3I/ATLAS is not an alien spacecraft. Make sure to donate below so Avi can scour the ocean floor for extraterrestrial technological equipment.

https://galileo.hsites.harvard.edu/

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

The advertising will bring in new gamblers and new money. This is not a card hobby, this is just a blackjack alternative.

https://www.si.com/collectibles/aren...for-collectors

advertising for repacks? Seems like most people already know about it. Cards seem pretty mainstream for lack of a better word.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

advertising for repacks? Seems like most people already know about it. Cards seem pretty mainstream for lack of a better word.

Cards aren't even close to mainstream. Advertising like this will bring in the gambling addicts. Out of my close group of 10 friends, they all gamble in sports. I don't. However, I am the only one who has sports cards. Advertising like this works because one of my friends asked me sports cards after seeing a vending machine in Vegas.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

That is the beauty of unsubstantiated and hypothetical claims. They can't be proven to be incorrect.

Interesting. You follow me? Can you reference just one post?

I get being scared to engage, but I assure you I welcome all discussions.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Cards aren't even close to mainstream. Advertising like this will bring in the gambling addicts. Out of my close group of 10 friends, they all gamble in sports. I don't. However, I am the only one who has sports cards. Advertising like this works because one of my friends asked me sports cards after seeing a vending machine in Vegas.

What does cards being mainstream look like?

The NFL is as mainstream/popular as it gets and only like 6-7% of America watches a regular season game on average. Even the Super Bowl, which is the most hyped TV event of the year, draws less than 50% of Americans.

Baseball is certainly mainstream but less than 4% of Americans watch the World Series.

I don't think going to a LCS or card show is a "mainstream" thing to do but I'd say at least 5% of the American public has heard of sports cards and at least one of the most popular Wagner, Mantle, or MJ cards.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

The advertising will bring in new gamblers and new money. This is not a card hobby, this is just a blackjack alternative.

https://www.si.com/collectibles/aren...for-collectors

Yes but there is nothing we can do about it, people like to gamble, it is what it is. Instead of viewing it as “bug”, consider it as “feature”, this is how this hobby gets attention and pulls in new interested participants. Some of them get curious about the cards and hobby, maybe visit cards shows, hold some awesome cards in their hands etc. and might actually start collecting one way or another (at least enjoying some of the cards and bidding/keeping them = collecting).

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Interesting. You follow me? Can you reference just one post?

I get being scared to engage, but I assure you I welcome all discussions.

Nope, I don't have social media. I encourage you to give it up as well.