📈Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?📈

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Mentioning YouTube chatrooms just shows you are out of touch with what is actually happening. But truthfully, so was I until I started looking. I don't do social media, I don't participate in breaks, I'm a true outsider to that world. And honestly, if someone had told me that the "real collectors" were only a small fragment of what is happening in this hobby I would have laughed. But when there is something I am ignorant about I try to fill in those gaps. I don't just call them names and pretend like I am better than they are. So that is what I did, I went to see what was actually happening. Sure, everyone likes to call them sneakerhead flipperbois, but they outnumber everyone else. Doesn't matter if their behavior is unlike ours, they still count. Casinos have not went broke, and neither is sports betting. So anyone thinking this group of people will run out of money is small minded.

This is also largely the same generation saying they can't afford to buy a home. So smart decisions with money are not part of their life plan. They love the thrill and they love the hype breakers. Those are facts. Every generation tends to look down on those that follow, and that is what is happening here. Sure, its irresponsible and silly behavior. But that is the life they want to live and they are entitled to do so. People can hate on them and talk down about them till the cows come home. Doesn't change reality.

So I think you're right, and I was inherently making a judgement based on the term I used but I'm not judging as much as I am observing the reality.

My personal opinion is that it's bad overall but that doesn't change anything about how it is.

I still enjoy prospecting and buying cards. I'll enjoy it no matter what happens. I do wish I could just grab some boxes and rip cards every now and again but it is what it is

[johnscards]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Did your doctor ever tell your mom you were one o them thar "artistic" kids?

Card company want most money. No care how get. No care long term.

Community take card company pp up butt. Nothing change. Much fomo. Much mental illness.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Blazed

The hobby has changed it’s not for the collector anymore

It’s a business and the customer is now the shareholder, not the guy ripping packs on Friday night, but that can change

That’s also why the only real leverage you have is collective. Not rage quitting. Not “I’m done with Topps”

Spend elsewhere, back independent shops, and let the numbers speak

Fanatics notices when a segment walks. Not a person

Yes that's in line with what I said. It'd take a unifying force to change consumer habits enough for them to gaf.

[fabiani12333]

There's been talk of a recession next year. If so, will the hobby take a dip?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

There's been talk of a recession next year. If so, will the hobby take a dip?

We’ve been dipping since the pandemic.

A true recession will kill off a lot of the sneakerboi crowd.

[boxbuster7]

to be fair theres been talk of a recession for the last 15 years

[Dancin' Dude]

You have to be Nostradamus to be in the card market these days.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I just need to ask who is loving it? Like what is the demographic?

If we’re talking about the sneakerhead flipperbois ok I can see it but I’m really skeptical that the vast majority of people are loving it.

People buying into breaks are gambling. There’s no community in a breakers YouTube chatroom

Flippers got burned the heaviest with the COVID run, especially sneakerbois who had no idea what they are doing. These people have left and likely not coming back anytime soon. It’s not like currently you can buy some new rookies and ROI on silver prizms etc. maybe some highly knowledgeable flippers are making some money with carefully selected high end but it’s not like masses are flipping and “making money” like it was in the Covid times.

I think ultra modern player collectors are loving it, all these case hits and low numbered stuff is selling really cheap, breakers are taking the cost on them (paying for the breaks) and throwing it on singles market for almost nothing. I definitely enjoy that part and I’ve been starting many side PCs of current superstars. Collectors of 90s and 00s all time greats are enjoying the hobby as well, it’s one of the areas in the hobby that hasn’t really changed much (not impacted by the high cost of product).

Not sure if the people who are participating in the breaks are enjoying the hobby, feels like they are burning money over and over again, how can someone enjoy that lol

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Torro

Not sure if the people who are participating in the breaks are enjoying the hobby, feels like they are burning money over and over again, how can someone enjoy that lol

The same way people enjoy going to a Casino. Or the same way people enjoy dropping $10k on a week at Disney.

Its a hit of dopamine. Every one of us seeks the same thing, we just seek it in different ways. Some people get it by doom scrolling on their phone, gaming online, being addicted to horn with a p, drinking alcohol, smoking cigs, smoking weed, driving your car fast, etc, etc, etc.

You don't see people burning through money in breaks as fun (nor do I), but in return they probably do not see whatever you do as fun either. Money can be replenished, and that is why gambling has been around forever and will stay forever.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by premium1981

The same way people enjoy going to a Casino. Or the same way people enjoy dropping $10k on a week at Disney.

Its a hit of dopamine. Every one of us seeks the same thing, we just seek it in different ways. Some people get it by doom scrolling on their phone, gaming online, being addicted to horn with a p, drinking alcohol, smoking cigs, smoking weed, driving your car fast, etc, etc, etc.

You don't see people burning through money in breaks as fun (nor do I), but in return they probably do not see whatever you do as fun either. Money can be replenished, and that is why gambling has been around forever and will stay forever.

No one is disputing that gambling will be around forever, but maybe certain kinds of gambling will fall out of favor -- perhaps group breaking loses its luster with gamblers gradually over time and they find something more enticing to waste their money on.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

No one is disputing that gambling will be around forever, but maybe certain kinds of gambling will fall out of favor -- perhaps group breaking loses its luster with gamblers gradually over time and they find something more enticing to waste their money on.

Or at some point they run out of money.....

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Or at some point they run out of money.....

Individuals may run out of money, but gamblers as a collective never will.

[drobfan8]

I'd say buy Ja Morant.

Optic Holo SGC 9 just did $12.50

His Mosaic just did $3

What a fall

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I'd say buy Ja Morant.

Optic Holo SGC 9 just did $12.50

His Mosaic just did $3

What a fall

Now that’s a dip!

James Harden dip?

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Individuals may run out of money, but gamblers as a collective never will.

Obviously.

But the amount of money people have, and are willing to spend on gambling-related activities, may decrease.

Unopened wax boxes are only one of zillions of ways that people can gamble. It's not unreasonable to suggest that at some point in the future people will decide that there are better gambling options than ripping wax.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Now that’s a dip!

James Harden dip?

Worse I'd say

The losses have to be worse surely.

NT RPA, gulp.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Worse I'd say

The losses have to be worse surely.

NT RPA, gulp.

Yikes!

Zion dip!

[jova888]

RIP to the hansen Yang speculators.. spending hundreds if not thousands on his cards.. he barely seeing the court.. I feel sorry for ya'll

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by jova888

RIP to the hansen Yang speculators.. spending hundreds if not thousands on his cards.. he barely seeing the court.. I feel sorry for ya'll

The time to sell was yesterday.

The time to buy most of these rookies is the summer before their 2nd or 3rd years.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

It sounds wacko, and it is, but a lot of people really do have outlooks like that. Based not on first hand experience but second or third hand reports from their preferred brand of propaganda.Hence why smooth brains think Portland is a warzone.

A lot of other people spend their time sitting around watching the news clutching their guns and having these weird power fantasies where they use them to rescue their family from grapist immigrant burglars or whatever. Pretty sad existence.

I'd rather take the wrong turn down most minority-dominated parts of town than accidentally turn into the wrong middle aged white guy's driveway these days. Lot of em think that gives them a license to kill.

My wife works at an elementary school and twice in one week last week she couldn’t leave because the minority dominated neighborhood was shooting it out with each other between 3-4 o clock. Kids couldn’t walk home and are no doubt traumatized now. The shooters were caught thankfully and as it turned out they were not middle aged white men Fox News watchers.

But you do you. Sounds like both sides have some bubbles they need to get out of.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

My wife works at an elementary school and twice in one week last week she couldn’t leave because the minority dominated neighborhood was shooting it out with each other between 3-4 o clock. Kids couldn’t walk home and are no doubt traumatized now. The shooters were caught thankfully and as it turned out they were not middle aged white men Fox News watchers.

But you do you. Sounds like both sides have some bubbles they need to get out of.

In a capital city of one of the EU countries where I live it is literally not possible that something like that would happen in a daylight at least, there is 0% chance. But the situation might be even worst in some big EU cities that have accepted a lot Islamic refugees..

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by Torro

In a capital city of one of the EU countries where I live it is literally not possible that something like that would happen in a daylight at least, there is 0% chance. But the situation might be even worst in some big EU cities that have accepted a lot Islamic refugees..

Well we are in love with our 2nd amendment over here which made sense when it was the government had muskets and the people had muskets and you could have a shot at resisting tyranny that way. But it would never work now for obvious reasons but there are right wing gun nuts that almost root for it to show what survivalists they are. It’s the extremes on both sides of the aisle that are completely insane and make life hard for the average person that’s just trying to work and raise a family and live their life.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Well we are in love with our 2nd amendment over here which made sense when it was the government had muskets and the people had muskets and you could have a shot at resisting tyranny that way. But it would never work now for obvious reasons but there are right wing gun nuts that almost root for it to show what survivalists they are. It’s the extremes on both sides of the aisle that are completely insane and make life hard for the average person that’s just trying to work and raise a family and live their life.

The extremists on the left have no power.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

My wife works at an elementary school and twice in one week last week she couldn’t leave because the minority dominated neighborhood was shooting it out with each other between 3-4 o clock. Kids couldn’t walk home and are no doubt traumatized now. The shooters were caught thankfully and as it turned out they were not middle aged white men Fox News watchers.

But you do you. Sounds like both sides have some bubbles they need to get out of.

I'm shocked to read this coming from a Celtics fan. Shocked I tell you...

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by cms11

I'm shocked to read this coming from a Celtics fan. Shocked I tell you...

And it doesn’t shock me that someone from LA would read what I wrote and decide I’m the problem.

What is that? Some sort of ism implication? Call me what you will. Those words have lost all meaning to me. I don’t care.