Guardians reliever Emmanuel Clase placed on paid leave amid MLB's sports betting inve - Page 5

JRX · 11-10-2025, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

That’s a great point. These guys come from poor countries it’s very enticing to them and probably face a lot of pressure to help out friends back home.

Its not just guys from poor countries. We just saw this in the nba, its everyone. Even if a player makes a ton of money, they can easily make others a lot of money by rigging prop bets.

LCM1223 · 11-10-2025, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

Nick Castellanos would’ve kept this dude out of prison as he would swing at every one of these first pitches

boxbuster7 · 11-10-2025, 03:12 PM

maybe this is why he always sucks in the playoffs

fishepa · 11-10-2025, 03:23 PM

Every professional sport is rigged in some fashion.

atk825 · 11-10-2025, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LCM1223

Nick Castellanos would’ve kept this dude out of prison as he would swing at every one of these first pitches

Andy Pages getting Clase pinched because he swung at one of the choked pitches is just incredible.

atk825 · 11-10-2025, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Its not just guys from poor countries. We just saw this in the nba, its everyone. Even if a player makes a ton of money, they can easily make others a lot of money by rigging prop bets.

This is sort of reminiscent of players back in the 90s getting busted for tax evasion because they wouldn't report their earnings from signing at card shows. Just relatively small dollar stuff that's easy money.

awz50 · 11-10-2025, 05:35 PM

Clase truly did not have the long game in mind from what these earnings show from betting

JohnnyHatesJazz · 11-10-2025, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Its not just guys from poor countries. We just saw this in the nba, its everyone. Even if a player makes a ton of money, they can easily make others a lot of money by rigging prop bets.

They need to get rid of some of these prop bets. It just creates a whole set of problems.

oddstuff · 11-10-2025, 08:50 PM

So...he was looking at his phone in between innings? Do what schools are doing...lock up the phones while school is in session.

The thing that gets me though...what does MLB expect when they themselves are openly in bed with gambling companies? Announcers have to talk about the bets audience can make during a televised game in during inning breaks. MLB is not innocent of this whole gambling stigma. If they want to keep the game "pure", disassociate themselves from all aspects of gambling.

mfw13 · 11-10-2025, 09:37 PM

Ban ALL bets whose outcome can be determined by a single individual acting alone.

It's that simple.....

base set · 11-10-2025, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

So...he was looking at his phone in between innings? Do what schools are doing...lock up the phones while school is in session.

The thing that gets me though...what does MLB expect when they themselves are openly in bed with gambling companies? Announcers have to talk about the bets audience can make during a televised game in during inning breaks. MLB is not innocent of this whole gambling stigma. If they want to keep the game "pure", disassociate themselves from all aspects of gambling.

It’s way too late for that. We have to get to Billion Dollar players, somehow.

fulltritty · 11-11-2025, 05:37 AM

MLB, sportsbooks agree to nationwide limit on pitch bets

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...mit-pitch-bets

awz50 · 11-11-2025, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Ban ALL bets whose outcome can be determined by a single individual acting alone.

It's that simple.....

Is it though?? I would like to think it is but certain players could influence a game by themselves

JRX · 11-11-2025, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

MLB, sportsbooks agree to nationwide limit on pitch bets

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...mit-pitch-bets

They couldn't ban it all together, they had to keep it so they can profit off of people with gambling addiction.

SaveMeTheGum · 11-11-2025, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

They couldn't ban it all together, they had to keep it so they can profit off of people with gambling addiction.

It's laughable that overnight gambling has taken over sports and people are surprised when this stuff happens. Corporations will always squeeze profits at the detriment of it's customers. Whether it's gambling or mortgage financing or fat/sugar in our food. Survival of the fittest I guess. Let the degens destroy themselves.

fulltritty · 11-12-2025, 06:58 PM

Scott Boras wants all prop bets ended, cites player integrity

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ayer-integrity

Retired hobbist · 11-13-2025, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Emmanuel Clase signed a five-year, $20,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Guardians on April 2, 2022, which included a $2,000,000 signing bonus.

Not that it even matters. They promote alcohol at games too but we aren't worried about closers showing up drunk in the 9th inning. It's such a poor excuse to use.

Bill Lee claimed to pitch in relief on narcotics and Doc Ellis started a game and I think he pitched decently on acid from what I remember reading.

asujbl · 11-13-2025, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Scott Boras wants all prop bets ended, cites player integrity

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ayer-integrity

Scott Boras can wish in one hand and crap in the other…

Retired hobbist · 11-13-2025, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

This is so stupid

Every league is exactly the same. Don’t be a child

Gambling will be here forever. Forever. Did you hear me in the back? Forever

Players just need to keep their act together

You can't put the genie back in the bottle when it comes to gambling. If states tried to ban gambling again mob controlled bookies would double over night so many more addicts are betting than when betting was largely illegal.

fabiani12333 · 11-13-2025, 04:30 PM

I don't gamble on sports, but I'd imagine the micro bets are more exciting and offer a more immediate and constant adrenaline rush/dopamine hit.

What's concerning is the platforms or MLB didn't catch Clase sooner -- he had allegedly been doing it for at least a few years before Ortiz's two bets got flagged.

SaveMeTheGum · 11-13-2025, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I don't gamble on sports, but I'd imagine the micro bets are more exciting and offer a more immediate and constant adrenaline rush/dopamine hit.

What's concerning is the platforms or MLB didn't catch Clase sooner -- he had allegedly been doing it for at least a few years before Ortiz's two bets got flagged.

Just imagine how much of that has and is still going on since then...

fulltritty · 11-16-2025, 06:02 AM

'New integrity crisis': Congress seeks MLB answers on betting

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...nswers-betting

premium1981 · 11-16-2025, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

'New integrity crisis': Congress seeks MLB answers on betting

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...nswers-betting

I think Congress should look at their own integrity first before worrying about anyone else's. And this applies to both sides of the isle. Almost every one of them are bought and paid for, just like Clase was.

JRX · 12-01-2025, 04:18 PM

Saw Cohen's casino got the green light. So its ok for an mlb owner to also run a casino in the parking lot?

fulltritty · 12-02-2025, 06:03 PM

Emmanuel Clase, Luis Ortiz face May trial date in gambling case

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-gambling-case

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oddstuff Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: CA Posts: 5,201	So...he was looking at his phone in between innings? Do what schools are doing...lock up the phones while school is in session. The thing that gets me though...what does MLB expect when they themselves are openly in bed with gambling companies? Announcers have to talk about the bets audience can make during a televised game in during inning breaks. MLB is not innocent of this whole gambling stigma. If they want to keep the game "pure", disassociate themselves from all aspects of gambling.

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mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,659	Ban ALL bets whose outcome can be determined by a single individual acting alone. It's that simple.....

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fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,869	MLB, sportsbooks agree to nationwide limit on pitch bets https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...mit-pitch-bets

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fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,869	Scott Boras wants all prop bets ended, cites player integrity https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ayer-integrity

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fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 12,486	I don't gamble on sports, but I'd imagine the micro bets are more exciting and offer a more immediate and constant adrenaline rush/dopamine hit. What's concerning is the platforms or MLB didn't catch Clase sooner -- he had allegedly been doing it for at least a few years before Ortiz's two bets got flagged.

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fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,869	'New integrity crisis': Congress seeks MLB answers on betting https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...nswers-betting

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,954	Saw Cohen's casino got the green light. So its ok for an mlb owner to also run a casino in the parking lot?

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fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,869	Emmanuel Clase, Luis Ortiz face May trial date in gambling case https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-gambling-case