2026 Hall of Fame Ballot officially released!!

[jlzinck]

Pre stat/nerd/Analytics era it would

Locks
Manny
Arod

Probably get in during their time on the ballot
Andrew Jones ( I mean Jim Rice got in on the lasr ballot. A 3 year stretch we was Ohtani/Bonds like to pitchers)

Beltran

They have a chance
Pettitte

Would get a homer vote from me
Pedroia

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by awz50

Hardly a lock i think. Good chance? Yes

I mean, maybe "lock" was hyperbolic, but he was at 66% last year. He was tracking to get in anyway. With this ballot it seems like a pretty safe bet. But I guess we are splitting hairs.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Pre stat/nerd/Analytics era it would

Locks
Manny
Arod

Probably get in during their time on the ballot
Andrew Jones ( I mean Jim Rice got in on the lasr ballot. A 3 year stretch we was Ohtani/Bonds like to pitchers)

Beltran

They have a chance
Pettitte

Would get a homer vote from me
Pedroia

Andruw Jones had two seasons above a 135 OPS+. He was never the offensive threat Ohtani or Bonds were. Let's get a grip

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by JRX

Is mlb the only one that's purely determined by writers?

I'm not sure. But it should be a mix of writers and current HOFers. Although having players vote brings in the "Good 'ol boys club" and hatred into play.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by marl1220

I'm not sure. But it should be a mix of writers and current HOFers. Although having players vote brings in the "Good 'ol boys club" and hatred into play.

No more so than the writers. Hell the hof is more about who the writers like.

[corockies]

Where's all the Chase Utley love? He was probably the best 2nd baseman for a good 10 year stretch. His career #s aren't upper echelon, but they are solid for the position.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by JRX

No more so than the writers. Hell the hof is more about who the writers like.

If you were a meanie-pants to the writers, they’ll make you pay.

[carlo16]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

If you were a meanie-pants to the writers, they’ll make you pay.

Two way street though. Nice guys get preferential treatment.

[49ersSF]

Johan Santana would get elected if on this ballot. Instead, he gets 2% of the voted and is one and done.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by corockies

Where's all the Chase Utley love? He was probably the best 2nd baseman for a good 10 year stretch. His career #s aren't upper echelon, but they are solid for the position.

He should go in and so should Kent.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

He had more than three great seasons. Some of the seasons you probably didn't count among your three were seasons in which he played great, but his team let him down and lowered his win totals significantly. He was Top Ten in Cy Young voting six times.

when I think of great I look more at stats like ERA over something like win total. An ERA, in my mind, under 3 is what counts as a great season, ERA between 3 and 4 a good season. There can be some leniency with that so I also could count his seasons with 3.04 and 3.06 especially considering the 3.06 season he also led the league with 6 complete game shutouts. Is that enough?

Going by the reasoning would it also be a stronger case for Madison Bumgarner to be a future hall of famer because his pitching was let down many times by a lack of offense even with him providing his own offense sometimes? In the 10 seasons with the Giants his record was 119-92 despite a 3.13 career ERA

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by atk825

Andruw Jones had two seasons above a 135 OPS+. He was never the offensive threat Ohtani or Bonds were. Let's get a grip

Of course he wasn't.

But his case is based on the combination of his defense and offense.....kinda like Andre Dawson or Larry Walker.

[49ersSF]

Andruw Jones' case all comes down to defense. His offense numbers are basically Edwin Encarnacion.

[carlo16]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Andruw Jones' case all comes down to defense. His offense numbers are basically Edwin Encarnacion.

I’m stupid.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Andruw Jones' case all comes down to defense. His offense numbers are basically Edwin Encarnacion.

6th-most home runs all-time among center fielders -- 27 more than Duke Snider.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Andruw Jones' case all comes down to defense. His offense numbers are basically Edwin Encarnacion.

I mean, while that isn't exactly accurate, he was the best defensive centerfielder in history. So if his case actually does come down to defense, it's a pretty compelling case. Throw in more than 400 HR and it's an open and shut case to me.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by corockies

Where's all the Chase Utley love? He was probably the best 2nd baseman for a good 10 year stretch. His career #s aren't upper echelon, but they are solid for the position.

For a half decade between 2005 and 2009. Then it was Robinson Cano.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

For a half decade between 2005 and 2009. Then it was Robinson Cano.

yeah after 2009 he sure did fall off production and healthwise

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by atk825

Andruw Jones had two seasons above a 135 OPS+. He was never the offensive threat Ohtani or Bonds were. Let's get a grip

Maybe, just MAYBE work on your reading skills

[blackvodka]

Last year Torri Hunter was one vote from falling off of the ballot?

I wonder if he could actually gain some momentum.

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[49ersSF]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I mean, while that isn't exactly accurate, he was the best defensive centerfielder in history. So if his case actually does come down to defense, it's a pretty compelling case. Throw in more than 400 HR and it's an open and shut case to me.

I definitely would not say an open and shut case. That would be reserved for the absolute legends of the game.

Andruw Jones's case is highly debatable. While his defense is of HoF quality, it is the offense and length of career that put him in a questionable category. His career really comes down to 9 seasons. Outside those 9 seasons, he is a below-average player, hitting just .215, and many of those seasons, he was not the fielder he once was.

From 1998 to 2006, he was great on both ends. He hit .270 and averaged 35 home runs. He had a gold glove each season. The downside, he only finished once in the top 7 of the MVP vote. In the other 8 seasons of his career he had a total of 8.1 WAR, hit .215, and averaged 14 home runs. He managed 1 gold glove, which was more of a gift.

His career comes down to whether those 9 seasons are worthy of entry. I tend to think he is more hall of very good, but I wouldn't be too bothered if he got in. I do think there are many better players than Andruw not currently in the Hall of Fame which is one reason that sticks out as to why he should not get in at this point.

[Skipscards]

Would love to see Murphy and Andruw go in together. Two very similar players and Cooperstown would be drunk with Braves fans.

I think Beltran is the only lock this year.

In addition to those two, I…

Would also vote for Utley, Rollins, Hunter, and Pedroia.

Would vote for Wright, King Felix, and Hamels just to keep them on the ballot.

Would throw a token vote to Gordo.

Could be convinced to vote for Buehrle or Abreu.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

I definitely would not say an open and shut case. That would be reserved for the absolute legends of the game.

Andruw Jones's case is highly debatable. While his defense is of HoF quality, it is the offense and length of career that put him in a questionable category. His career really comes down to 9 seasons. Outside those 9 seasons, he is a below-average player, hitting just .215, and many of those seasons, he was not the fielder he once was.

From 1998 to 2006, he was great on both ends. He hit .270 and averaged 35 home runs. He had a gold glove each season. The downside, he only finished once in the top 7 of the MVP vote. In the other 8 seasons of his career he had a total of 8.1 WAR, hit .215, and averaged 14 home runs. He managed 1 gold glove, which was more of a gift.

His career comes down to whether those 9 seasons are worthy of entry. I tend to think he is more hall of very good, but I wouldn't be too bothered if he got in. I do think there are many better players than Andruw not currently in the Hall of Fame which is one reason that sticks out as to why he should not get in at this point.

Right, if it were open and shut he wouldn’t be on his 9th ballot. But he is certainly going in. If not this year, then next. And if somehow not next, eventually.

There’s always better players for all but one player. That’s never mattered. Best to induct them when they have the chance. There’s already too large a back log.

[hammertime]

I guess we're all going to ignore Jones' domestic violence conviction which has undoubtedly affected his candidacy?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Right, if it were open and shut he wouldn’t be on his 9th ballot. But he is certainly going in. If not this year, then next. And if somehow not next, eventually.

There’s always better players for all but one player. That’s never mattered. Best to induct them when they have the chance. There’s already too large a back log.

I used open and shut to his going in this year. Not that he is a first ballot HoF. Just that he will get in.