Official 2025 B1G 10 Football and asujbl Memorial Thread

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

You are only speculating that Fielding missing the kick. I don't know what Sayin TD you are talking about that was overturned.

This entire game was chippy. Probably lots more flags could've been thrown on both sides, but it's a rivalry game and the refs let some go.

I've never said that the Barham incident was a nothing burger.

I haven't tried to spin anything.... you on the other hand....

You didn’t watch THE GAME, one that probably has the most video equipment recording it. Odd how THE GAME became one equal to completely becoming inept in its coverage.

Sayin was awarded a touchdown after the Barham penalty. The Fox announcer said it was the latest touchdown signal he had ever witnessed. It had to be roughly 30 seconds from when the play began. Sayin was doing a snow angel at the 1 only to be pulled in by the RB while he was on his lower 6.

This game was treated like a Super Bowl before it began and was treated like a WWE match during. When the beginning looked like an implosion, cherry picked coverage came to the rescue!

[oldgoldy97]

TOSU was the highest earning school last year. Why did the NCAA let Michigan win in Columbus?

[Boo]

Barham penalty? This thread is more Barnum and Bailey Circus.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Boo

Barham penalty? This thread is more Barnum and Bailey Circus.

The preparation for Fox / ref’s was near Super Bowl like and then morphed into Super Troopers 4 Ratings-gate BCCG!

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Lack of answering your question and lack of actually looking at facts instead of conspiracies and opinion is really astounding to me.

It's stifle so it's not that surprising. Dude fixates on 1 little thing all the time.

He (like snoobs) can't just say "The other team was better". Hairy at least does it every once in a while.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

It's stifle so it's not that surprising. Dude fixates on 1 little thing all the time.

He (like snoobs) can't just say "The other team was better". Hairy at least does it every once in a while.

JV, I can’t fix stupid therefore I can’t help you.

JV believes his opinions override data, nope! Kerry Carpenter was utilized less in the 3-4 hole with more data being known and JV just couldn’t accept that.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

It's stifle so it's not that surprising. Dude fixates on 1 little thing all the time.

He (like snoobs) can't just say "The other team was better". Hairy at least does it every once in a while.

There’s doubling down then there’s…whatever this is.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

There’s doubling down then there’s…whatever this is.

I keep forgetting that the opinions that you have supersede data / logic, 👍🏻.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Stifle

You didn’t watch THE GAME, one that probably has the most video equipment recording it. Odd how THE GAME became one equal to completely becoming inept in its coverage.

Sayin was awarded a touchdown after the Barham penalty. The Fox announcer said it was the latest touchdown signal he had ever witnessed. It had to be roughly 30 seconds from when the play began. Sayin was doing a snow angel at the 1 only to be pulled in by the RB while he was on his lower 6.

This game was treated like a Super Bowl before it began and was treated like a WWE match during. When the beginning looked like an implosion, cherry picked coverage came to the rescue!

I know what play you are talking about, yes they called touchdown, but it was OVERTURNED, so who cares?????

The system worked.

Between your petty insults, lack of answering with anything substantial when anyone dare challenges you, and now you're telling me what I did or didn't do with the game. At this point I've wasted too much time... I hope you can move on from this life shattering event.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Stifle

You didn’t watch THE GAME, one that probably has the most video equipment recording it. Odd how THE GAME became one equal to completely becoming inept in its coverage.

Sayin was awarded a touchdown after the Barham penalty. The Fox announcer said it was the latest touchdown signal he had ever witnessed. It had to be roughly 30 seconds from when the play began. Sayin was doing a snow angel at the 1 only to be pulled in by the RB while he was on his lower 6.

This game was treated like a Super Bowl before it began and was treated like a WWE match during. When the beginning looked like an implosion, cherry picked coverage came to the rescue!

You know Michigan could've helped themselves by putting the ball in the end zone! After the Barham penalty OSU only ended up with 3 pts.

Have no idea what cherry picked coverage had to do with Michigan not scoring TD's or only gaining 34 yards of offense for an entire half.

But I know you don't care about those facts you only care about your opinions and conspiracy theories.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Stifle

JV, I can’t fix stupid therefore I can’t help you.

JV believes his opinions override data, nope! Kerry Carpenter was utilized less in the 3-4 hole with more data being known and HV just couldn’t accept that.

Dude....You are literally trying to change the subject to your dumb baseball 5 times?

Like, obviously we ALL know why you aren't answering the question, but humor us by answering it finally anyway.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Dude....You are literally trying to change the subject to your dumb baseball 5 times?

Like, obviously we ALL know why you aren't answering the question, but humor us by answering it finally anyway.

Was the team that won the Natty better than Michigan in 24? That is my answer and question! The longer a game stays in doubt, the higher the odds for the “dog” to prevail. Take away or deny momentum ( by showing the replay of Barham’s junk being targeted, that would have made Michigan and the fans go insane, but it was hidden. The Smith touchback is a lie by the same ref who called Barham for a penalty but allowed a Buckeye to remain in the game).

I keep forgetting that the game was a wrap even without the intervention of the clown like excuses by the ref’s and Fox. Ohio State won but with mulligans keeping them from all the imploding the Buckeye’s were doing. Who targets another man in the crotch with a head butt unless they just imploded?

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Was the team that won the Natty better than Michigan in 24? That is my answer and question! The longer a game stays in doubt, the higher the odds for the “dog” to prevail. Take away or deny momentum ( by showing the replay of Barham’s junk being targeted, that would have made Michigan and the fans go insane, but it was hidden. The Smith touchback is a lie by the same ref who called Barham for a penalty but allowed a Buckeye to remain in the game).

I keep forgetting that the game was a wrap even without the intervention of the clown like excuses by the ref’s and Fox. Ohio State won but with mulligans keeping them from all the imploding the Buckeye’s were doing. Who targets another man in the crotch with a head butt unless they just imploded?

So you want to introduce a new question while not answering something I've asked you now 6 times.

Fine, I'll humor you. Michigan beating Ohio State would mean they're the better team, however I don't think Buckeyes fans care because they'd rather win a National Championship than beating Michigan (I'd hope they do anyways).

Now......

Is that why they won the game???????

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Was the team that won the Natty better than Michigan in 24? That is my answer and question! The longer a game stays in doubt, the higher the odds for the “dog” to prevail. Take away or deny momentum ( by showing the replay of Barham’s junk being targeted, that would have made Michigan and the fans go insane, but it was hidden. The Smith touchback is a lie by the same ref who called Barham for a penalty but allowed a Buckeye to remain in the game).

I keep forgetting that the game was a wrap even without the intervention of the clown like excuses by the ref’s and Fox. Ohio State won but with mulligans keeping them from all the imploding the Buckeye’s were doing. Who targets another man in the crotch with a head butt unless they just imploded?

Can't believe you are willing to die on the hill of some rigged "mulligans" Nothing kept Michigan out of the end zone but themselves and Ohio State's defense. Nothing made Michigan only gain 34 yards in the 2nd half except themselves and Ohio State's defense.

I've laid it out so many ways that I've exhausted every angle I have to get you to at least have a reasonable conversation, but alas all you could do was go back to changing the subject, petty childish insults, or telling me that what I did with the game. You seriously made this almost seem personal, but I'm not that thin skinned. It's sad though

So serious question: What would be your vindication? An OSU loss to Indiana? or what?

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

It's stifle so it's not that surprising. Dude fixates on 1 little thing all the time.

He (like snoobs) can't just say "The other team was better". Hairy at least does it every once in a while.

Hey I got some credit from one of my critics!

There is no point rehashing the hypotheticals. Michigan lost, and it wasn't close. Have to pick up the pieces and move on to some decisions about the coaching staff and hit the portal for some help in key positions.

[wiper]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Don't play the victim.

that’s rich coming from you

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by wiper

that’s rich coming from you

Thanks for chiming in!

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

So you want to introduce a new question while not answering something I've asked you now 6 times.

Fine, I'll humor you. Michigan beating Ohio State would mean they're the better team, however I don't think Buckeyes fans care because they'd rather win a National Championship than beating Michigan (I'd hope they do anyways).

Now......

Is that why they won the game???????

Michigan won last years game because they believed in what they were doing. Run the ball and play tough Defense. This season for Michigan vs OSU was to not implode while minimizing mistakes. Michigan played close to the vest and was hoping Ohio State would struggle - INT - 1st Drive, Having a OL losing his mind who then targeted Barham’s junk - 2nd Drive, Smith touchback 3rd drive. What did the ref’s and Fox get right - just the interception and not a huge call and ejection as well as a turnover. That’s called imploding and being bailed out.

Sure did change the mind set of what would have occurred if Fox wouldn’t have hid the targeting and then turnover.

I know you will never answer questions but why was the targeting of Barham hidden till after the game ? The amount of camera’s viewing that game had that disturbing targeting hit Barham took. Why do you think it was hidden for a day?

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Michigan won last years game because they believed in what they were doing. Run the ball and play tough Defense. This season for Michigan vs OSU was to not implode while minimizing mistakes. Michigan played close to the vest and was hoping Ohio State would struggle - INT - 1st Drive, Having a OL losing his mind who then targeted Barham’s junk - 2nd Drive, Smith touchback 3rd drive. What did the ref’s and Fox get right - just the interception and not a huge call and ejection as well as a turnover. That’s called imploding and being bailed out.

Sure did change the mind set of what would have occurred if Fox wouldn’t have hid the targeting and then turnover.

I know you will never answer questions but why was the targeting of Barham hidden till after the game ? The amount of camera’s viewing that game had that disturbing targeting hit Barham took. Why do you think it was hidden for a day?

You're just trolling me effectively now, right? WHO FREAKING CARES! I don't know why it was 'hidden' until after the game Stifle, no I don't think it was 'hidden', either. I've answered all your questions, now for the SEVENTH TIME:is that why they won the game???

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Michigan won last years game because they believed in what they were doing. Run the ball and play tough Defense. This season for Michigan vs OSU was to not implode while minimizing mistakes. Michigan played close to the vest and was hoping Ohio State would struggle - INT - 1st Drive, Having a OL losing his mind who then targeted Barham’s junk - 2nd Drive, Smith touchback 3rd drive. What did the ref’s and Fox get right - just the interception and not a huge call and ejection as well as a turnover. That’s called imploding and being bailed out.

Sure did change the mind set of what would have occurred if Fox wouldn’t have hid the targeting and then turnover.

I know you will never answer questions but why was the targeting of Barham hidden till after the game ? The amount of camera’s viewing that game had that disturbing targeting hit Barham took. Why do you think it was hidden for a day?

Ohio State was not bailed out. They were the recipient of a questionable call that happened to go their way. As I've tried to tell you and you just don't want to admit, even with the Smith touchdown Michigan could have still been up in the game if they would've finished drives. But alas you don't want to talk about that.

You want to live in some fantasy that for some reason it was rigged for OSU to win this year, when they had nothing to lose other than another loss to their bitter rival.

[Chris Lyle]

Never mind....

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Hey I got some credit from one of my critics!

There is no point rehashing the hypotheticals. Michigan lost, and it wasn't close. Have to pick up the pieces and move on to some decisions about the coaching staff and hit the portal for some help in key positions.

I don't think there is any rumbling about Moore yet, right? Michigan was predicted to pull "a Franklin" and they did just that. If it looks the same next year, than the hot seat will warm up. The portal is going to be key. This year's team is just not that talented. Looking at the way too early draft boards, no Michigan players in the 1st round. Usually they have at least one if not more.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Ohio State was not bailed out. They were the recipient of a questionable call that happened to go their way. As I've tried to tell you and you just don't want to admit, even with the Smith touchdown Michigan could have still been up in the game if they would've finished drives. But alas you don't want to talk about that.

You want to live in some fantasy that for some reason it was rigged for OSU to win this year, when they had nothing to lose other than another loss to their bitter rival.

Why do Buckeyes fans keep discussing how afterwards they performed flawlessly but are unwilling to discuss how Fox with all it’s video equipment took a day to show the targeting on Barham, which would have had the Buckeye player ejected. Then Fox & Kole K. say that with all the advanced equipment that the replay booth didn’t receive the same video that was seen on the big screen or hear Fox’s EXPERT Rules analyst describe on air how it was a touchback before the decision was announced.

It’s always after the fact of being bailed out which Ohio State was! Stop trying to deny what was occurring as a nothing-burger. The Michigan players and fans would have gone into a frenzy if they had the targeting of Barham on the big screen and it would have changed this game into how the last game ended. COWARDS for hiding why Barham was so IRATE ! Fox had that video but somebody pulled the plug on letting it be shown, COWARDS !

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Why do Buckeyes fans keep discussing how afterwards they performed flawlessly but are unwilling to discuss how Fox with all it’s video equipment took a day to show the targeting on Barham, which would have had the Buckeye player ejected. Then Fox & Kole K. say that with all the advanced equipment that the replay booth didn’t receive the same video that was seen on the big screen or hear Fox’s EXPERT Rules analyst describe on air how it was a touchback before the decision was announced.

It’s always after the fact of being bailed out which Ohio State was! Stop trying to deny what was occurring as a nothing-burger. The Michigan players and fans would have gone into a frenzy if they had the targeting of Barham on the big screen and it would have changed this game into how the last game ended. COWARDS for hiding why Barham was so IRATE ! Fox had that video but somebody pulled the plug on letting it be shown, COWARDS !

The players saw, they saw the chipyness and extra hits etc. all game. How the last game ended is a little much in my opinion, but ok... Fox controls what goes up on the big screen at Michigan?? not aware of that but don't know the setup.

I love how you can continue for 48 hours now on the same song and dance and then decide to call Ohio State cowards at this point, and say their fans don't want to discuss the Barham situation, I just can't understand the logic at this point.

All I have personally done is give you the other side of your argument, I've never said that the Barham situation was a nothing burger, but I just said I don't know that was as big as you make it, OSU still only ended up with a FG out of the whole situation. I keep being told by you that I'm denying things I'm not. I trying to give the other side of the logic and you don't want to hear it. That is just the facts.

I've never said the Smith td was the right call, all i have personally said was if Michigan would have taken full advantage of the opportunities they were given then they could have easily still been ahead even with the Smith td.

You don't want to hear anything that goes against your opinion I get it, but why get aggressive and make things up to try and prove someone wrong??

[Chris Lyle]

Bet you could find plenty of highlights of both sides taking cheap shots, not getting off ball carriers, etc. and no flags were thrown, but one non-call on the Barham situation changed the whole game.... make it make sense to me