First Buzz: 2024 Topps Chrome Dune trading cards

[dunquixote1]

It’s very tempting…

[Highlander23]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Black Friday $800 a 12 box hobby case, bought another.
We shall see,
Vinny

I went for it as well. As good a deal as I've seen for the Black Friday stuff.....good luck to us both!

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Black Friday $800 a 12 box hobby case, bought another.
We shall see,
Vinny

I just pulled the trigger on one. Was debating the case or a nice Walken auto...but $799 for 12 boxes I just had to pull the trigger. I love the movies. I'll post results once I open in a couple weeks..I'm still sitting on 3 sealed release day boxes, they seem to be drying up.

Good luck to all!

[dunquixote1]

I decided to pick up a couple cases. Haven’t decided if I’ll crack em or sit on them. With none of the cards being redemptions (as far as I know) this may be near or at a floor price. I can’t imagine cases dropping too much lower because it’s common sense buy and rip at or near $700ish/case. Even if I’m risking a lower buying opportunity I’m totally ok with this price point. And I don’t see these $50/box average at a case purchase. A whale would buy them all up at that point. Momoa, Walken, Brolin, and Isaac are pretty big names.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by dunquixote1

I decided to pick up a couple cases. Haven’t decided if I’ll crack em or sit on them. With none of the cards being redemptions (as far as I know) this may be near or at a floor price. I can’t imagine cases dropping too much lower because it’s common sense buy and rip at or near $700ish/case. Even if I’m risking a lower buying opportunity I’m totally ok with this price point. And I don’t see these $50/box average at a case purchase. A whale would buy them all up at that point. Momoa, Walken, Brolin, and Isaac are pretty big names.

The cases have been $500-$650 all month if you're buying where you should be. Last case sale was a whole $504. Now thanks to you guys if they want they can just restock their inventory at lower prices and then sell to you again later on. Rinse repeat.

[VinnyH]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The cases have been $500-$650 all month if you're buying where you should be. Last case sale was a whole $504. Now thanks to you guys if they want they can just restock their inventory at lower prices and then sell to you again later on. Rinse repeat.

Can I simply go to the place you talk about and buy cases without extras like being a member, having tax ID like a store, etc. Is this for the general public?
Thanks,
Vinny
PS: I’m a BO customer so I don’t want to know the actual place, just how easy you say it is.

[greatgradegrate]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The cases have been $500-$650 all month if you're buying where you should be. Last case sale was a whole $504. Now thanks to you guys if they want they can just restock their inventory at lower prices and then sell to you again later on. Rinse repeat.

I've been watching there for over a month. Unless you're a vendor status member the lowest case has been like $700. Currently it's $750.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a non-vendor account can't place a bid and can't negotiate with a seller.

[esoxwaters]

Originally Posted by greatgradegrate

Unless you're a vendor status member the lowest case has been like $700. Currently it's $750.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a non-vendor account can't place a bid and can't negotiate with a seller.

This is correct and moss is purposely misrepresenting the situation but with a high buy price currently around $41/box, there's reason to think these might go lower at outlets more accessible to the public.

[greatgradegrate]

Originally Posted by esoxwaters

This is correct and moss is purposely misrepresenting the situation but with a high buy price currently around $41/box, there's reason to think these might go lower at outlets more accessible to the public.

That site really confuses me, there's been a dozen Dune cases sold there for much lower than the low ask -- do sellers only want to work with vendor status accounts? I don't get why they wouldn't post below the low ask instead of selling at a much lower high bid.

[oldgoldy97]

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The cases have been $500-$650 all month if you're buying where you should be. Last case sale was a whole $504. Now thanks to you guys if they want they can just restock their inventory at lower prices and then sell to you again later on. Rinse repeat.

[dunquixote1]

Guys, I don’t care about going to some site to setup a vendor account and dedicate the time resources needed to save $15/box. I just don’t care that much. And if I’m spoiling things so you can no longer buy your “dip”…I’m not sorry. I just don’t care enough. $800/case is fair to me for this product. I also hate the cryptic gate keeping you do Mossaholic. You say to us, ‘go here it’s cheaper…but I’m not going to define what “here” is for you. Wait, you spent $800 on it when you could have gotten it ‘there (which I won’t tell you)’ for $500!?! You fool! These cases were going to $0 but you screwed it up!!’

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by dunquixote1

Guys, I don’t care about going to some site to setup a vendor account and dedicate the time resources needed to save $15/box. I just don’t care that much. And if I’m spoiling things so you can no longer buy your “dip”…I’m not sorry. I just don’t care enough. $800/case is fair to me for this product. I also hate the cryptic gate keeping you do Mossaholic. You say to us, ‘go here it’s cheaper…but I’m not going to define what “here” is for you. Wait, you spent $800 on it when you could have gotten it ‘there (which I won’t tell you)’ for $500!?! You fool! These cases were going to $0 but you screwed it up!!’

Lol the time and resources? Probably 5-10 minutes to sign up and maybe 2-3 business days to get approved. If you just want the cheapest version probably 3 minutes to sign up and approved the following day. Yeah that's for sure not worth saving multiple hundreds of dollars a case. If you're spending thousands a year and buying with BO and their ilk don't even want to guess how much you're flushing down the toilet. Personally, even if I couldn't buy or sell there I'd pay the lowest tier $230ish a year membership just for the relevant market info.

The only catch I can think of is for the 2nd or 3rd membership tier you need to have a decent buying or selling history to be approved. They also won't put up with the bs most of you like to do buying and/or selling. If you pull the crap most pull, there are repercussions. I'd bet that's why some don't use it or did and were banned.

You can't list competitor prices and/or sales information on here. It's cryptic because of that. It's a ban. Which really I should do and get banned. Can't believe I even bother posting on here when the stupidity level is somehow at an all time high.

Regardless, unless it's a presale price at MSRP and you need to buy in advance, every single product listed by the big 3 you can find cheaper somewhere else. Even then if you want to wait until a day before release or release day you can find those products cheaper then too. Between the 3 of them they didn't have the lowest price on a single item for Black Friday. Their pricing wasn't lower on a single item versus the lowest price you could find weeks ago let alone on Black Friday sales.

[esoxwaters]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Lol the time and resources? Probably 5-10 minutes to sign up and maybe 2-3 business days to get approved. If you just want the cheapest version probably 3 minutes to sign up and approved the following day. Yeah that's for sure not worth saving multiple hundreds of dollars a case. If you're spending thousands a year and buying with BO and their ilk don't even want to guess how much you're flushing down the toilet. Personally, even if I couldn't buy or sell there I'd pay the lowest tier $230ish a year membership just for the relevant market info.

The only catch I can think of is for the 2nd or 3rd membership tier you need to have a decent buying or selling history to be approved. They also won't put up with the bs most of you like to do buying and/or selling. If you pull the crap most pull, there are repercussions. I'd bet that's why some don't use it or did and were banned.

You can't list competitor prices and/or sales information on here. It's cryptic because of that. It's a ban. Which really I should do and get banned. Can't believe I even bother posting on here when the stupidity level is somehow at an all time high.

Regardless, unless it's a presale price at MSRP and you need to buy in advance, every single product listed by the big 3 you can find cheaper somewhere else. Even then if you want to wait until a day before release or release day you can find those products cheaper then too. Between the 3 of them they didn't have the lowest price on a single item for Black Friday. Their pricing wasn't lower on a single item versus the lowest price you could find weeks ago let alone on Black Friday sales.

You constantly whine about wanting auctions to determine fair market value but when the market dictates $800/case is a fair price for this, you’re upset about that too?

If it’s so easy to attain cases for $200-300 less, why don’t you just purchase them and reap the profits yourself since plenty of people seem interested at this inflated price?

I suppose it’s because you’re too busy typing walls of text on a forum sponsored by a “money tree” company you seem to despise to bother with such a paltry return.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by esoxwaters

You constantly whine about wanting auctions to determine fair market value but when the market dictates $800/case is a fair price for this, you’re upset about that too?

If it’s so easy to attain cases for $200-300 less, why don’t you just purchase them and reap the profits yourself since plenty of people seem interested at this inflated price?

I suppose it’s because you’re too busy typing walls of text on a forum sponsored by a “money tree” company you seem to despise to bother with such a paltry return.

The market hasn't dictated these are $800 a case. That's what an online retailer priced them at. If that's what the market dictates why would BO not just list it all for sale there? They are a member with probably close to as high of transactions as anyone. Every single time they do list something it's for less than they have listed on their website. If everyone paid these companies listed on site prices the secondary value of every product currently out would significantly increase. There is close to 0% chance these companies will ever have the lowest price. They pretty consistently have the highest price. Which if you knew anything at all about the sports card wax market you would know.

If I had a way to contact these people and knew for sure they would buy from me I'd buy every single case I could for around $500-$600. I literally could have bought double digit cases for that price. The issue is I don't have access to the relevant buyer's accounts to then sell and to get them to pay in a way that I pay only a 0-3% fee. Even though I have perfect feedback for either several years or well over a decade on every platform Im on it's still tough sometimes to get people to pay. I have no way of knowing how many of those sales on ebay are real and if you've bought and sold wax on ebay you know various issues could happen I'd rather not deal with. I'm sure people that have been dealers for years wouldn't be selling it so low if it was easily sellable for $800-$900 a case on ebay. If you're going to claim I could just contact buyers on here all it takes is 1 person to report me and Im banned. That's assuming they just don't have some type of thing now to scan for it in messages and it's detected easily.

What you should have said is that I just shouldn't comment on it. That's the truth. But I can't help myself many times. I'll have to try to not say anything in the future and let people continue to throw money down the drain chiefly to companies that have profited more for doing less than any other industry on earth.

[greatgradegrate]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The only catch I can think of is for the 2nd or 3rd membership tier you need to have a decent buying or selling history to be approved.

Look, I'm not looking to pick a fight here, but your earlier comments suggested that everyone should be getting from that site, when in fact only certain people are actually able to purchase at the low prices you listed.

There is a barrier beyond simply signing up like one would on ebay or even most membership-based storefronts. So how can you express disdain to those buying at the aforementioned BF prices on the Big 3 when access to the marketplace you are pointing at is gated?

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by greatgradegrate

Look, I'm not looking to pick a fight here, but your earlier comments suggested that everyone should be getting from that site, when in fact only certain people are actually able to purchase at the low prices you listed.

There is a barrier beyond simply signing up like one would on ebay or even most membership-based storefronts. So how can you express disdain to those buying at the aforementioned BF prices on the Big 3 when access to the marketplace you are pointing at is gated?

I would guess that anyone that is spending thousands of dollars in one day and has been involved in the card industry for at least a year or two would be eligible. I would guess virtually anyone on this forum for at least a year or two would be eligible. Anyone with a year or two of a decent amount of ebay activity. Either way, this isn't like your trying to join the CIA. I didn't see a single person comment on it I think would be declined membership. I doubt many will spend a little bit of their time to find out.

Have you read any of the Black Friday thread? Who isn't blasting the BF prices of the big 3? It's the worst year it's ever been. Lol you're actually defending it? Whatever it doesn't even matter. This is a dead product anyway and a drop in the Pacific Ocean for them. Like I've mentioned numerous times don't even know why I bother. I really do try to keep quiet now because I mostly just end up wasting a bunch of time arguing with a wall.

[oldgoldy97]

You are failing.


Can’t believe I read all that. Oof.

[greatgradegrate]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I would guess that anyone that is spending thousands of dollars in one day and has been involved in the card industry for at least a year or two would be eligible. I would guess virtually anyone on this forum for at least a year or two would be eligible...

Have you read any of the Black Friday thread? Who isn't blasting the BF prices of the big 3? It's the worst year it's ever been. Lol you're actually defending it?

No problem dropping this, but:

1) You assume much (enter evergreen "assume" saying)

2) You misconstrue much

[VinnyH]

Got my Black Friday case and it was okay but no big hit. Four autos with the best being Jamis and two common autos /75 and /99. Did get 2 Acrylics /75 and /99 which usually are 1 per case. Two medallions, 1 base and 1 /199.
Kind of balances out my last case that was loaded.
Vinny

[gerry609]

So I joined Dealernet. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Some of their prices on there were higher than BO/D&A.

[Highlander23]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

Got my Black Friday case and it was okay but no big hit. Four autos with the best being Jamis and two common autos /75 and /99. Did get 2 Acrylics /75 and /99 which usually are 1 per case. Two medallions, 1 base and 1 /199.
Kind of balances out my last case that was loaded.
Vinny

Still opening mine, but so far I've gotten a Mamoa auto, Walken auto /75, Lady Jessica Refractor /10 and a Yellow Printing Plate of "Paul Controls the Voice" or whatever it is....it's a Paul card so I didn't pay as much attention! Plus a few other solid numbered cards, 2 character medallions (both in the same box) and an auto of the makeup guy. Still have 5 boxes to go so maybe there's one more nice one hiding in there!

[VinnyH]

Originally Posted by Highlander23

Still opening mine, but so far I've gotten a Mamoa auto, Walken auto /75, Lady Jessica Refractor /10 and a Yellow Printing Plate of "Paul Controls the Voice" or whatever it is....it's a Paul card so I didn't pay as much attention! Plus a few other solid numbered cards, 2 character medallions (both in the same box) and an auto of the makeup guy. Still have 5 boxes to go so maybe there's one more nice one hiding in there!

Sounds like a solid case. I was surprised last night to not get a bid on my Mamoa /25 orange auto starting at $199.
Vinny

[esoxwaters]

Originally Posted by gerry609

So I joined Dealernet. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Some of their prices on there were higher than BO/D&A.

It's a great site for research. You can look at the current high bids to get an idea what wholesale pricing is on a product.

It's not all that useful for purchasing unless you have a vendor account and can name your own price (i.e. place a bid) or snag something that is suddenly skyrocketing in price.

[gerry609]

Originally Posted by esoxwaters

It's a great site for research. You can look at the current high bids to get an idea what wholesale pricing is on a product.

It's not all that useful for purchasing unless you have a vendor account and can name your own price (i.e. place a bid) or snag something that is suddenly skyrocketing in price.

So a vendor account is the account to have.

Well I did buy some products that were cheaper than the box stores.