First Buzz: 2025-26 Topps Chrome NBA cards

[RainCityShecks]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Boxes can always be available to everybody…..















…..at the right price for fanatics.

They should probably just start at $10,000 per box and give “everyone a fair shot”.

hahaha yes, exactly. Breakers and re-sellers rejoice! Topps has come to your rescue. No reason to let the plebes get in on super fun rips/breaks w/out having them go bankrupt!!!

A personal box of this is not for anyone in an income bracket below the 95% mark.

[peterose4hof]

Any guesses on the print run of these 1st Day Issue boxes?

[cusecardboard]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Any guesses on the print run of these 1st Day Issue boxes?

Well 20 FOTL parallels for each player in the base set (299) puts it at ~6000 boxes minimum.

Panini didn't typically do insert sets in the FOTL parallel, but often had autos in a FOTL parallel. So if some of the auto sets have a FOTL parallel and those are included in the 2 per box, then there'd be >3,000 boxes (edit, because math is hard), but we wouldn't know exactly how many.

Good luck with your Oshae Brissett and Noah Clowney parallels for the $1k upcharge!

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by cusecardboard

Well 20 FOTL parallels for each player in the base set (299) puts it at ~6000 boxes minimum.

Panini didn't typically do insert sets in the FOTL parallel, but often had autos in a FOTL parallel.

So if some of the auto sets have a FOTL parallel and those are included in the 2 per box, then there'd be >6,000 boxes, but we wouldnt know how many.

Topps' description: "two FDI-exclusive base parallels in each box"

Hinting that there are no FDI autos which makes the box price starting at $3,500 even more insane for 2 low numbered parallels.

[Bruin7]

2 parallel hits out of 8/12 are slim for the price. The tri-color parallel sounds ugly. They should have created a Gilded Gold version. Anything gold is attractive. Hopefully they include level A quality autographs in these boxes. These will sell out at 2500. I don’t see them dipping below 2k.

[Bruin7]

Just realized regular jumbo boxes are going for 1k+. There’s no way these last till 2k. There are simply too many flippers involved nowadays.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Any guesses on the print run of these 1st Day Issue boxes?

Simple math on this one. Assuming only base cards are paralleled. 300 card checklist (299 really but lets just stick with 300), First Day parallels being /12 and /8, two per box.

300*12=3600
300*8=2400
6000/2=3000 boxes

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by Bruin7

2 parallel hits out of 8/12 are slim for the price. The tri-color parallel sounds ugly. They should have created a Gilded Gold version. Anything gold is attractive. Hopefully they include level A quality autographs in these boxes. These will sell out at 2500. I don’t see them dipping below 2k.

I would guess they are going to make Topps Chrome Gilded.

In fact, I would be pretty surprised if they do not at least make the same amount of Chrome products for BKB that they do for BB.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by Bruin7

Just realized regular jumbo boxes are going for 1k+. There’s no way these last till 2k. There are simply too many flippers involved nowadays.

I know the wax market is completely irrational these days,
but are two low numbered parallels really worth $500+ each?

[RainCityShecks]

I think this release might be a blessing in disguise. There may be enough useful idiots that use up their $$$ reserves going after this stuff, so the rest of us might be able to get a few boxes of the regular stuff at MSRP!!!!

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I know the wax market is completely irrational these days,
but are two low numbered parallels really worth $500+ each?

Of course they aren't. For most of us, opening wax is not worth it. Period.

But it's simple math for the breakers.

If they can get $100/team, it's an instant buy starting at $2500 and every iteration below that until it sells out.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

I think this release might be a blessing in disguise. There may be enough useful idiots that use up their $$$ reserves going after this stuff, so the rest of us might be able to get a few boxes of the regular stuff at MSRP!!!!

I wish. But there are too many people willing to overpay for this stuff for it to come down.

Massive scandals haven't brought down prices. The only thing that seems to bring prices down is a poor rookie class with little to no hype (see: 2024-25 NBA products).

[Bob Ross]

If these doofuses would ever release the god damn odds for Chrome, then we can figure out how many boxes of normal jumbos are made so that we can compare those prices against this First Day at 3000 boxes.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by dantheman514

You cannot really believe this; their only interest is to increase their profits. They are a business, and that is their goal. Let's say you personally have 1,000 boxes to sell. Would you sell the 1,000 boxes for exactly $1,000.00 a box EQL style, or would you sell them for anywhere in the $1,500.00 to $3,500.00 range each Dutch style? You could probably at least double your profits ($2,000/box) if you went with the Dutch style, so of course you would want to maximize your profits. Why would Topps stick with the EQL if Panini has successfully utilized the Dutch style for years?

It's funny you say they are a business. There are no 2 business on earth that have operated the way Topps and more specifically Panini have this decade. What's more likely? Panini and Topps are doing everything right and every other company in the world is wrong or vice versa?

If their only interest is increasing short term profits and driving away most current and potential future buyers let's see how their business looks long term. They have the long term licenses. I think this is the first step in caring about that.

If their only goal was increasing profits why has there been a grand total of 1 dutch auction this decade and it was a couple years ago?

They have run EQL for close to a year and a half. Counting boxes and cases separate there has probably been around 90 or so EQL launches. They ran a grand total of 1 dutch auction.

Do they want to increase profits on these boxes? Yes. But I don't think it's their only goal. I think they are doing this to help long term growth. I guess we will see soon enough.

[IronCladLou]

My local shop got Jumbos for $985US and Hobby for $560US

[RainCityShecks]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

My local shop got Jumbos for $985US and Hobby for $560US

Dang. I'm out at LCS pricing. I cannot imagine my LCS will be any better. Hope I can get one MSRP off the drop (whatever day that is now......)

[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

Dang. I'm out at LCS pricing. I cannot imagine my LCS will be any better. Hope I can get one MSRP off the drop (whatever day that is now......)

And I think nobody has bought any yet. Once they do, that will probably hit $1100 and $750

[Bruin7]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

It's funny you say they are a business. There are no 2 business on earth that have operated the way Topps and more specifically Panini have this decade. What's more likely? Panini and Topps are doing everything right and every other company in the world is wrong or vice versa?

If their only interest is increasing short term profits and driving away most current and potential future buyers let's see how their business looks long term. They have the long term licenses. I think this is the first step in caring about that.

If their only goal was increasing profits why has there been a grand total of 1 dutch auction this decade and it was a couple years ago?

They have run EQL for close to a year and a half. Counting boxes and cases separate there has probably been around 90 or so EQL launches. They ran a grand total of 1 dutch auction.

Do they want to increase profits on these boxes? Yes. But I don't think it's their only goal. I think they are doing this to help long term growth. I guess we will see soon enough.

I think the luxury watch market functions in this way somewhat. They also create a perceived rarity when they aren’t at all. Also the wait list programs are laughable.

[Anarchy99]

Originally Posted by crdbored

Fanatics with the Panini playbook.

List exclusive really high. Watch it sell out close to $3k and no one will know amount of inventory released to public.
Raise hobby and jumbo prices because FDI sells high.

The whales and breakers guarantee this sells out near $3k and all other boxes will go up. (sell out prices will greatly depend on exclusive content)
Basically what's been happening all year with Panini FOTL.

they probably saw all the bitching and crying by trash sneakerboi YT breakers like RGL about the Flagship release cuz 'wahhhhhhhhh paper bad wahhhhhhh' and decided to pump this out to apease the "wahhhhh no more Panini high end FOTL wahhhhhh" crowd

[Asian62150]

Remember when 2017 NFL Prizm FOTL sat on the Panini website for over a month at $120/box?

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Bruin7

I think the luxury watch market functions in this way somewhat. They also create a perceived rarity when they aren’t at all. Also the wait list programs are laughable.

No kidding. If 99% of sports card bro's even knew about the hoops AD's make people jump through. I can go on a whole other rant about AD's but I'll spare the kind people here and keep my bashing to Fanatics only as usual.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Remember when 2017 NFL Prizm FOTL sat on the Panini website for over a month at $120/box?

[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Remember when 2017 NFL Prizm FOTL sat on the Panini website for over a month at $120/box?

I remember paying $94 for a box of Hobby. I was sweating spending so much.

[jjcan]

Even if the 1st day hit Bottom if this price $2k?, Regular is $1.2K jumbo at release or more?,

What Price is sapphire its not even a Jumbo box, $850?

And what product does the Rookie Debut patch go into if its not a chrome product? Dutch Auction $5k a box?

This is pretty crazy. I guess I should just be happy hitting my $5 dollar paper Cooper base rcs

[kyle1707]

Talking about price.

Topps and all the big dist are going to raise the prices as high as they can

Until all the dumbasses go broke …. It’s been 5 years. Still has no happened

Topps sells marvel and lilo and stitch base cards for 500-800 a box .. and people think it’s a deal

They know there cliental is slow …. They are going to make 10 thousand hobby cases and price it all to the moon

They don’t give a truck about value .. as long as the can rail you