Patrick Mahomes Prices

[razorsharp]

Well it's over for Patty. His cards are going to take an absolute bath for the next 8 months.

He needs a bounce back next year.

[JWBlue]

This is a great buying opportunity assuming his card prices go down.

[Jeter1020]

Disappointing. Just not their year


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[Absknicks]

Yeah I know his line is in shambles but he's been in clear decline for a while. There just doesn't seem to be much zip on his ball anymore. Lots of wobblers and off-target throws on stuff he used to do in his sleep. Can't push the ball down the field like Allen, Burrow, Herbet etc. Just kinda a second-rate talent at this point.

[jjrpilot]

Don't be a bag holder friends... go through your collection and be willing to sell the cards you can live without.

This coaching staff has failed this team and Mahomes.

[TheCrow]

Must be really frustrating playing on a defense that did so well and gave the offense so many opportunities that they did absolutely nothing with. The Chiefs might as well just lose out the rest of the season and hope for some better draft picks. Hell, they've been doing that anyway. What a pitiful season after all those years of greatness. Crashed and burned.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by TheCrow

Must be really frustrating playing on a defense that did so well and gave the offense so many opportunities that they did absolutely nothing with. The Chiefs might as well just lose out the rest of the season and hope for some better draft picks. Hell, they've been doing that anyway. What a pitiful season after all those years of greatness. Crashed and burned.

Their talent in the skill positions is lacking. Especially RBs. I don't buy the Mahomes is declining narrative. Some of this season is variance coming back. Last year the Chiefs won so many games with lucky type plays -blocked kick, missed kick, last second penalties. Those wins are now losses. Also, the engines on both sides of the ball Kelce and Jones have regressed. Chiefs need an infusion of talent and youth. Might take a couple of drafts. I am sure you will see some vet cuts at the end of the year. Mahomes salary cap goes up 50 million as well. My big question is, does Reid retire? I circled this season as his last a couple seasons ago. We shall see.

[Hellcat]

I'm guessing big changes coming. Reid and Kelce are probably going to retire and the start of the re-build. It's been a good run for Kermit! If he can get 2 more rings he will pass Joe it's going to be a long shot but doable. Next year men!

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by TheCrow

Must be really frustrating playing on a defense that did so well and gave the offense so many opportunities that they did absolutely nothing with. The Chiefs might as well just lose out the rest of the season and hope for some better draft picks. Hell, they've been doing that anyway. What a pitiful season after all those years of greatness. Crashed and burned.

Yeah. The defense gave everything they had. It was great to see Chris Jones playing so hard and so well. I really did think they were going to win this one when it was 10-10 and we had the ball going into the 4th quarter. Hats off to the defense.

Man, I just feel so gross about everything. This is a terrible feeling. Everything in me wants to say there is absolutely no way Mahomes is really on the Russell Wilson quick decline trajectory. There's just no way. But man. Of course, who knows what happens if Kareem doesn't drop that 3 and 2 in the red zone. Who knows what happens if Rashee doesn't drop that 4th down. Who know what happens if Kelce doesn't drop his pass for the game sealing INT. I mean, that stuff is not on Mahomes. But just yuck all around. Next year is going to tell us a lot.

There is absolutely no doubt Nagy has to go, and they have to get a running back. Non negotiables.

For those that are thinking there won't be a decline in his cards this year, there absolutely will be. You'll see some dumping for sure. For the first time in a long time I've got some funds to buy, and I will be doing just that.

[imbluestreak23]

This page will be fun to revisit in 2026 for sure.

Some strong takes worthy of bumps

[majestik101]

Tanner McKee and Kyle Trask can fix this team

Just you wait

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Their talent in the skill positions is lacking. Especially RBs. I don't buy the Mahomes is declining narrative. Some of this season is variance coming back. Last year the Chiefs won so many games with lucky type plays -blocked kick, missed kick, last second penalties. Those wins are now losses. Also, the engines on both sides of the ball Kelce and Jones have regressed. Chiefs need an infusion of talent and youth. Might take a couple of drafts. I am sure you will see some vet cuts at the end of the year. Mahomes salary cap goes up 50 million as well. My big question is, does Reid retire? I circled this season as his last a couple seasons ago. We shall see.

I wouldn't be surprised if Reid retires after this season. Hard to say if that would be a good thing for the Chiefs or not. Maybe he's gotten stale and it's time for new leadership. Or someone new could really screw things up... Either way, something big needs to change in order to turn this team around.

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Don't be a bag holder friends... go through your collection and be willing to sell the cards you can live without.

"can't take a loss, bro."

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by pejc300

Yeah. The defense gave everything they had. It was great to see Chris Jones playing so hard and so well. I really did think they were going to win this one when it was 10-10 and we had the ball going into the 4th quarter. Hats off to the defense.

Man, I just feel so gross about everything. This is a terrible feeling. Everything in me wants to say there is absolutely no way Mahomes is really on the Russell Wilson quick decline trajectory. There's just no way. But man. Of course, who knows what happens if Kareem doesn't drop that 3 and 2 in the red zone. Who knows what happens if Rashee doesn't drop that 4th down. Who know what happens if Kelce doesn't drop his pass for the game sealing INT. I mean, that stuff is not on Mahomes. But just yuck all around. Next year is going to tell us a lot.

There is absolutely no doubt Nagy has to go, and they have to get a running back. Non negotiables.

For those that are thinking there won't be a decline in his cards this year, there absolutely will be. You'll see some dumping for sure. For the first time in a long time I've got some funds to buy, and I will be doing just that.

I thought they were going to pull it off too with how great the D was playing, especially once they got that touchdown. Can't believe the offense couldn't come through with all those chances they were given. Inexcusable.
All those drops absolutely killed them, between Kelce, Rice, Gray, Hunt, etc. Kelce is washed. That was the second or third time this season that he's handed the ball off to the opposing team, and at the worst possible time.
Mahomes stats were awful, although not all of those interceptions were his fault. That horrific display by the offense was definitely a team effort. Despite all that, it still seems hard to imagine that Mahomes from a few years ago would have zero TD's in this game, even with this exact same offense.
So much for all their problems being solved once Worthy and Rice came back. That seemed to be the case for a few games, and they were doing great. What the hell happened???

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by TheCrow

I wouldn't be surprised if Reid retires after this season. Hard to say if that would be a good thing for the Chiefs or not. Maybe he's gotten stale and it's time for new leadership. Or someone new could really screw things up... Either way, something big needs to change in order to turn this team around.

Al Davis said the shelf life of a coach was 10 years. I think it is time to move on. Next season will be year 13 or 14 I believe.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If they don’t turn things around in December, it should be an offseason to clean house. Offense has no playmakers. Play calling is stale. Team is very boring to watch, and it’s every week. Let Andy and Kelce retire, and go find a real WR1.

And three weeks later it’s clear this needs to happen.

Mahomes will have his first prove it year in the hobby in 2026. In the absence of a major restructuring of the roster, I don’t think he can do it.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Al Davis said the shelf life of a coach was 10 years. I think it is time to move on. Next season will be year 13 or 14 I believe.

Totally agree. It's not that Reid isn't a great, great coach (Top 5, arguably), it's just time. Their entire offense is a total mess. I'd start rebuilding if I were the Chiefs, starting with the HC. However, this exact same thing happened in GB with McCarthy, and they held on to him for 2-3 years longer than they should have. If the Chiefs do that, it'd be a disaster for Mahomes.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

And three weeks later it’s clear this needs to happen.

Mahomes will have his first prove it year in the hobby in 2026. In the absence of a major restructuring of the roster, I don’t think he can do it.

Honestly, it's 2-3 years later. You could see the cracks starting to form in the team after the 2022 season (and they still squeezed out a SB win and 2 appearances!) And that was the genius of the Chiefs' system - they played the game on a knife's edge, knowing that their offensive and defensive systems and coaches were superior - which they were. Now they are not and we get to see what Mahomes 2.0 looks like. Should be exciting.

[Zauron]

I mean, I don't get why going for it on 4th and 1 in the 4th in a tie game with what the Texans offense was doing.

Just punt it, trust your defense with how things were going. Just weird coaching there.

[daveyc1]

I think the best option for KC is to tank the last 4 games. It would protect Mahomes from possible injury (with all the running he has done this season, and he is too valuable to lose) and it would improve their draft position. they currently sit at 14 out of 32. middle of the pack is the worst place to be. If they lose out, they could find themselves with a top 10 pick and a significantly easier schedule next season.

the bigger problem is the roster and the nightmare cap situation they find themselves in for next season. they are already between $40MM and $60MM over next seasons cap. and they have a LOT of roster spots that need replacing.

I think they need to overhaul the roster and do a rebuild. they cannot win as currently structured. they cannot "fix" it with free agency because of the cap. If they keep trying to kick the can down the road with salary restructures, they still will not be SB material and will exacerbate the cap problem.

Better to take the 2-3 year rebuild and see how the roster looks in 2028-2029. The only problem is that a full rebuild will put Mahomes into his mid 30's and he has regressed for 3 straight seasons already. He has not led in a statistical category since 2022.

It is the only path forward I can see.

[jjrpilot]

It's NOT that I think Mahomes will never win another SB...which could happen... it's just that he needs 4 more to even tie Brady.

I think a lot of Mahomes collectors (including me) held on to many of his cards bc of the possibility of him winning more. He hasn't been himself this year and I'm hoping they can turn it around next year. Hunt needs to change the coaching staff and fast if they don't want to keep wasting Mahomes' years.

That being said...IF Mahomes never ties Brady....there are going to be some massive bag holders at the end. His current prices have the hope of future SB's baked in.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Delta punching air for getting banned a week before this terrible showing by the Chiefs.

He's definitely gotta be lurking still.

[jmarascojr]

I don't think they'll tank the last 4 games, they SHOULD come out of them 2-2, but 1-3 is possible.
If they are 1-2 after the next 3 games, I could see them sitting Mahomes against the Raiders, the game means nothing other than draft position.

A top 10-top 15 pick should help them in the draft, they could draft Jeremiah Love and fix the hole at RB...

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

I don't think they'll tank the last 4 games, they SHOULD come out of them 2-2, but 1-3 is possible.
If they are 1-2 after the next 3 games, I could see them sitting Mahomes against the Raiders, the game means nothing other than draft position.

A top 10-top 15 pick should help them in the draft, they could draft Jeremiah Love and fix the hole at RB...

I would love to get Love, but I guarantee you they won't. They'll go for Dlineman instead.

[jhssketchcards]

This season could possibly be the worst for Chiefs led Mahomes, but time will tell. Brady led his Patriots and Bucs to 10+ wins 19 years out of 23 and the “worst” Brady year (aside from his injury season) was his final season. Brady dominated the NFL for nearly 2 decades, losing 7 games 1 time (2002) and never missed the playoffs as the starter. (wasn’t starter in 2000 and injured in 2008). Again, Brady’s worst team year as a starter was 2022 but they still made the playoffs.
People can compare Mahomes to Brady and it’s fair but Mahomes possibly missing the playoffs in only year 9 will certainly hurt. Mahomes is amazing no doubt, and I get the “he needs weapons” but he did throw 3 picks yesterday in a must win game.


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