Fanatics Live and Filthbomb

[bub838]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

I don’t see how you even bother with that site anymore. So much drivel and propaganda to see anything of true substance. It would be nice if I could just follow the tried and true mlb rumor guys and that’s it.

You can create a curated list. Helps a lot.
https://help.x.com/en/using-x/x-lists

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Lazy isn't the right tag, but soulless drain on society might be more apt

All depends on who you are referring to.

In the pre-streaming days where cable was the main source of content, we only had commercials. Mabelline is a good example. Hire models, rent a studio, film commercials, air them. Spend however many millions they need to spend for all those spots.

Today, the models are still working but they are called "influencers", can work from home, and they do all the work that the directors in studio used to do. We still have Mabelline commercials, but those are now in the form of TikToks, IG reels, etc.

Some folks have trouble understanding this evolution. In the 90's they respected the model. Today, the model is "lazy" and getting by through selling her appearance. What changed? Not the models. Only the means through which the content is delivered. It's still a job. It just looks different.

If models aren't your thing, what about chefs? In the 90's it was cooking shows. Now the chefs can work from home. The cooking shows still exist but they are on YouTube and self-produced. The chefs aren't lazy. They don't need "real jobs". They just film and deliver their content differently. And if T Fal wants to hire a few of these chefs to use T Fal pans on their YouTube videos, they become influencers. T Fal pays the chef to use their pans on their cooking shows. It provides income for the chef and more affordable advertising for T Fal.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

All depends on who you are referring to.

In the pre-streaming days where cable was the main source of content, we only had commercials. Mabelline is a good example. Hire models, rent a studio, film commercials, air them. Spend however many millions they need to spend for all those spots.

Today, the models are still working but they are called "influencers", can work from home, and they do all the work that the directors in studio used to do. We still have Mabelline commercials, but those are now in the form of TikToks, IG reels, etc.

Some folks have trouble understanding this evolution. In the 90's they respected the model. Today, the model is "lazy" and getting by through selling her appearance. What changed? Not the models. Only the means through which the content is delivered. It's still a job. It just looks different.

If models aren't your thing, what about chefs? In the 90's it was cooking shows. Now the chefs can work from home. The cooking shows still exist but they are on YouTube and self-produced. The chefs aren't lazy. They don't need "real jobs". They just film and deliver their content differently. And if T Fal wants to hire a few of these chefs to use T Fal pans on their YouTube videos, they become influencers. T Fal pays the chef to use their pans on their cooking shows. It provides income for the chef and more affordable advertising for T Fal.

LOL

Impressive mental gymnastics

Your examples include models/users marketing towards end users (makeup and pans - eg chef reactions who even has cards in A&G).

Kasey is not marketing towards end users. She's marketing for FB to overly horny neckbeards with gambling addictions.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

LOL

Impressive mental gymnastics

Your examples include models/users marketing towards end users (makeup and pans - eg chef reactions who even has cards in A&G).

Kasey is not marketing towards end users. She's marketing for FB to overly horny neckbeards with gambling addictions.

Obviously I got lost in a sidebar and took the thread off topic. My bad. I don't have a clue who Kasey is and will trust your assessment if she's not a real influencer working in the manner I've described.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Wouldn’t doubt that Filthbomb is a shell company created by Fanatics….they picked who they wanted….

[hammerva]

You don't need to create a shell company if they are willing participants to begin with. I am sure if Fanatics told these breakers to do anything they would do it with a smile

The biggest thing about the Kasey's stuff is that she seems to be perfectly reasonable in how she deals with people (well until she got caught )while almost everyone at Filthbomb were just first class jerk offs. So is Kasey was the "good cop" on the group or they were playing a terrible gimmick and "Kasey" was how they really act

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Originally Posted by hammerva

You don't need to create a shell company if they are willing participants to begin with. I am sure if Fanatics told these breakers to do anything they would do it with a smile

The biggest thing about the Kasey's stuff is that she seems to be perfectly reasonable in how she deals with people (well until she got caught )while almost everyone at Filthbomb were just first class jerk offs. So is Kasey was the "good cop" on the group or they were playing a terrible gimmick and "Kasey" was how they really act

That's really my point. If Fanatics themselves kept breaks in house, it would cause an uproar if big hits were pulled, etc. By them hand picking their lackeys, they essentially can control breaking of their product without being tied directly to it. I mean look at the fact that Rubin himself I think showed up at their grand opening break. It doesn't take a genius to see that Filthbomb is most likely directly controlled by Fanatics, and that's why I used the term shell company, when I should have used a better term, but this is kind of the gist of it.

[ThoseBackPages]

The writing is on the wall, you just have to be willing to read it.

[mfisher27]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

The writing is on the wall, you just have to be willing able to read it.

FTFY.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

All depends on who you are referring to.

In the pre-streaming days where cable was the main source of content, we only had commercials. Mabelline is a good example. Hire models, rent a studio, film commercials, air them. Spend however many millions they need to spend for all those spots.

Today, the models are still working but they are called "influencers", can work from home, and they do all the work that the directors in studio used to do. We still have Mabelline commercials, but those are now in the form of TikToks, IG reels, etc.

Some folks have trouble understanding this evolution. In the 90's they respected the model. Today, the model is "lazy" and getting by through selling her appearance. What changed? Not the models. Only the means through which the content is delivered. It's still a job. It just looks different.

If models aren't your thing, what about chefs? In the 90's it was cooking shows. Now the chefs can work from home. The cooking shows still exist but they are on YouTube and self-produced. The chefs aren't lazy. They don't need "real jobs". They just film and deliver their content differently. And if T Fal wants to hire a few of these chefs to use T Fal pans on their YouTube videos, they become influencers. T Fal pays the chef to use their pans on their cooking shows. It provides income for the chef and more affordable advertising for T Fal.

Yeah, I was thinking maybe it was Maybelline.

[mfisher27]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Yeah, I was thinking maybe it was Maybelline.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Quite the opposite. Actual influencers (not the 12 year olds who are trying with 2K followers) have grueling schedules and film for hours just to extract whatever short clip they are going to publish. I would argue that they are some of the hardest workers out there. There are several documentaries. The lazy tag is lazy and doesn't acknowledge the work that actually goes into being successful.

Boo hoo hoo.

[fabiani12333]

Fanatics has shifted Topps to being breaker-centric, and I guess Filthbomb (stupid name) is the most high-profile of the breakers at the moment. And I have to ask, why should I care? If other breakers are jealous of Filthbomb's favorable treatment, that's their business -- not mine or the average hobby participant's.

[BayAreaChris]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Fanatics has shifted Topps to being breaker-centric, and I guess Filthbomb (stupid name) is the most high-profile of the breakers at the moment. And I have to ask, why should I care? If other breakers are jealous of Filthbomb's favorable treatment, that's their business -- not mine or the average hobby participant's.

The point of the thread was it doesn’t appear Filthbomb is acting in good faith so bringing it up to discussion here.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

That's really my point. If Fanatics themselves kept breaks in house, it would cause an uproar if big hits were pulled, etc. By them hand picking their lackeys, they essentially can control breaking of their product without being tied directly to it. I mean look at the fact that Rubin himself I think showed up at their grand opening break. It doesn't take a genius to see that Filthbomb is most likely directly controlled by Fanatics, and that's why I used the term shell company, when I should have used a better term, but this is kind of the gist of it.

Exactly. When there's no true transparency, no accountability, this is what happens. There's no proof (besides an actual employee saying Fanatics direct certain hits to certain breakers), but when big money is involved and there's little to no oversight, people are going to take advantage of the situation as much as they can. Why would we expect anything less?

What's more likely:

-A for-profit company that's a monopoly in an unregulated industry will act in good faith for the sake of acting in good faith?
-Or a for-profit company will try to do whatever they can get away with to increase their bottom line?

[base set]

Maybelline would be a good name for a Breaker. Oh Maybelline, why can’t you be true?

[notfast]

It’s funny how filthbomb posts on social media non stop but they’ve all stopped the last few days.

[YouTheManNick]

Hard to believe a company that willingly chose to name itself "filthbomb" would be up to some shady things.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by notfast

It’s funny how filthbomb posts on social media non stop but they’ve all stopped the last few days.

im guessing they were told to

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Kasey is not marketing towards end users. She's marketing for FB to overly horny neckbeards with gambling addictions.

100% spot-on.


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[PoPCulture]

All of the popular breakers, as they continue to scale, are only one bad hiring decision; one bad employee from going out of business. The number of choices in this space compared to just 5 years ago is staggering. There will be cannibalism anytime any one company is put at headline risk. Worst thing is though that they are just like HYDRA… Cut off one head, two more will take its place.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by PoPCulture

All of the popular breakers, as they continue to scale, are only one bad hiring decision; one bad employee from going out of business. The number of choices in this space compared to just 5 years ago is staggering. There will be cannibalism anytime any one company is put at headline risk. Worst thing is though that they are just like HYDRA… Cut off one head, two more will take its place.

Backyard Breaks begs to differ.