Patrick Mahomes Prices

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Cool article from The Ringer ranking all the QB Super Bowl performances of the 21st century.

https://www.theringer.com/2026/02/03...atrick-mahomes

Mahomes' Super Bowl 57 performance ranks #1.

Yeah sorry that list is complete trash. All it does is remind me why I haven't gone to the Ringer or listened to any podcasts in about 5+ years.

This list has Jalen Hurts 17/22, 221 yard, 2 TD, 1 INT performance as 4th best this century. One spot behind the ATL-NE Brady performance. And sorry Foles, great game and playoffs but having Foles 2nd here over the 28-3 game is comically brain damaged. 28-3 game is obviously 1st and you have to be extremely biased to think otherwise. Which this writer is.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Wait a minute, this list has Brady from the 28-3 Falcons SB as 3rd?

LMAOOOOOOO

And he called Brady a dink and dunker for most of his career.

Obvious bias. That guy who made the list is the type to not vote for bb on the first ballot. HACK.

[bluebirds987]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

And he called Brady a dink and dunker for most of his career.

Obvious bias. That guy who made the list is the type to not vote for bb on the first ballot. HACK.

Glad to see Mahomes the playoff GOAT get his props

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by tjforce

They missed the playoffs in a year where:

-Starting left tackle missed 9 games
-Starting Right tackled missed 5 games
-Starting Right Guard missed 5 games
-Both backup tackles were injured for the year

-Top Wide Receiver missed 9 games
-2nd best Wide Receiver missed 4 games and was limited all year with a shoulder

-Mahomes tore his ACL and missed 3 games and 1 possible game winning drive

So yes. If the offense has as bad of an injury run next year, there's nothing you can do to improve the team. Which is something that you can say about any team in the NFL.

On the other hand, *if* things go well with rehabs this offseason, you could be walking into next year returning:

-Mahomes
-4/5 starting olinemen, plus Jaylon Moore, who started 6 games, played 15
-Top 2 WRs

Plus you have the 9th pick they'll be using on either J. Love or probably the second receiver off the board.

Be healthy and I'll take this offense to beat any team in a conference that just saw a Championship game between Jared Stidham and guy who threw for under 100 yards.



*Also... still TBD on the 2025 draft. Top 3 picks all got injured. Simmons looks like the long term answer. And I know you don't pay attention this close, but Nohl Williams looks like an absolute steal in round 3.

They had a lot go wrong last year with injuries, but honestly, I don't think they were going anywhere in the playoffs, even if they made it.


I'd take my time with Patty coming back and call 2026 a wash and prep for 2027. I know it wastes a prime age year with Patty, but better safe than sorry.


If anything, I expect the Broncos and Chargers to be right back in the division race in 2026, they had injuries too, especially the Chargers.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah sorry that list is complete trash. All it does is remind me why I haven't gone to the Ringer or listened to any podcasts in about 5+ years.

This list has Jalen Hurts 17/22, 221 yard, 2 TD, 1 INT performance as 4th best this century. One spot behind the ATL-NE Brady performance. And sorry Foles, great game and playoffs but having Foles 2nd here over the 28-3 game is comically brain damaged. 28-3 game is obviously 1st and you have to be extremely biased to think otherwise. Which this writer is.

It relied a lot of productivity metrics and opponent defense.

28-3 was definitely the most dramatic Super Bowl performance ever. Probably the most famous too.

But from a productivity standpoint... Brady had a lot to do with being in the hole 28-3 to begin with, and it was against the worst ranked Super Bowl defense of the century.

I'm not here to dimmish it... as you know I'm more invested in Brady than anyone, but I'm just helping you out with some insight as to why it wasn't ranked #1.

[KardsC1]

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[pejc300]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah sorry that list is complete trash. All it does is remind me why I haven't gone to the Ringer or listened to any podcasts in about 5+ years.

This list has Jalen Hurts 17/22, 221 yard, 2 TD, 1 INT performance as 4th best this century. One spot behind the ATL-NE Brady performance. And sorry Foles, great game and playoffs but having Foles 2nd here over the 28-3 game is comically brain damaged. 28-3 game is obviously 1st and you have to be extremely biased to think otherwise. Which this writer is.

Foles Super Bowl performance was absolutely iconic. Blow for blow with Brady. Absolutely huge balls. One of the most memorable performances in Super Bowl history. Brady's comeback is right there, but the comeback is known as much for the comeback as the absolutely collapse by the Falcons who crapped the bed multiple times. Brady vs. Foles was absolute cinema. Blow for blow. Brady v. the second half Falcons was like playing a JV team. Both are deserving of top 3 performances.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by tjforce

It relied a lot of productivity metrics and opponent defense.

28-3 was definitely the most dramatic Super Bowl performance ever. Probably the most famous too.

But from a productivity standpoint... Brady had a lot to do with being in the hole 28-3 to begin with, and it was against the worst ranked Super Bowl defense of the century.

I'm not here to dimmish it... as you know I'm more invested in Brady than anyone, but I'm just helping you out with some insight as to why it wasn't ranked #1.

In otherwise cherry picking and torturing the data to achieve your desired result.

It's not even about Mahomes v Brady on some arbitrary opinion list here by a hack on the ringer, it's about having Foles 2nd above that 28-3 because what? He caught a gadget reception TD? Or having Hurts 4th. I don't care about efficiency stats, that was a blowout and Hurts had 220 yards passing and tossed an INT. It's just very low quality content from low IQ people over there it seems, hence why I stopped even looking their way.

I understand the "insight". It's still horrendous. Context and gravity matters, a lot. It's also harder to maintain great efficiency stats when you're asked to output more volume and put a team on your back and win a game. Again, low IQ content.

[blackbears86]

I always thought Brady's stats in the eagles SB were fantastic: 505 yards, 3 td's, no INT's passer rating of 115, but they lost so it's forgotten about.

[tjforce]

This ranking just took efficiency to the max...

Another performance that gets the shaft on this list is Jake Delhomee vs the Patriots.

The Pats were the second best defense on this list. Delhomme only completed less than half of his passes, but he threw for 323 yards and 3 TDs.

If Brady isn't a hero in the last minute of this game, than Delhomme has one of the all time great winning QB performances.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by Tea10

In otherwise cherry picking and torturing the data to achieve your desired result.

It's not even about Mahomes v Brady on some arbitrary opinion list here by a hack on the ringer, it's about having Foles 2nd above that 28-3 because what? He caught a gadget reception TD? Or having Hurts 4th. I don't care about efficiency stats, that was a blowout and Hurts had 220 yards passing and tossed an INT. It's just very low quality content from low IQ people over there it seems, hence why I stopped even looking their way.

I understand the "insight". It's still horrendous. Context and gravity matters, a lot. It's also harder to maintain great efficiency stats when you're asked to output more volume and put a team on your back and win a game. Again, low IQ content.

Are you Delta? Were you even old enough to watch that game? Go watch the throws he made...

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by pejc300

Are you Delta? Were you even old enough to watch that game? Go watch the throws he made...

Yeah I've been watching since the Bledsoe days. First off, so don't try and insult me.

There's a huge difference between saying Foles had a good-great game in the SB and saying he is 2nd this century. He had great playoff run overall, the SB game was very good but if you think that's better than the 28-3 game wow you're slow.

[stevenbklyn718]

Can any mahomes experts dm me about pricing on complete mahomes rookie print of cards looking for a price estimate very high end looking for little help on value thanks in advance

[Earlsnake07]

Originally Posted by stevenbklyn718

Can any mahomes experts dm me about pricing on complete mahomes rookie print of cards looking for a price estimate very high end looking for little help on value thanks in advance

Lots of guys in this thread are extremely knowledgeable.....just post up what the cards are and my guess is you will have a pretty good idea of the value.