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Please explain why this card is a fake.
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Literally everything about it all the way down to the fact that it looks like it was cut out on a $10 paper cutter Evan Mathis style.
Good find OP.
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Granted many noir cards turn out with those edges, if you’ve ever opened a pack of it before. |
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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We can keep going.
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Here are some additional fakes that have sold recently on eBay:
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Perhaps we can show some comparisons between the fakes and real? I'm not doubting they're fake but for a newbie searching the forums it would help to know what to look out for.
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Compare with this legit copy. Lots of differences |
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That's what I'm saying. I looked at both images and I couldn't tell the difference either.
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Use this as authentic reference: https://www.psacard.com/cert/63287018/psa
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It is scary that they are able to replicate thick cards now as well, if true. |
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comparing the two, everything looks washed out on the fake. It does look like a copy. I would assume that looks more pronounced in real life. I am not sure I would immediately pick up on it if I was just looking at a scan. The back team logo is most obvious.
Shame on CGC for not catching it. The grading companies are supposed to catch these things so collectors don't have to be the expert in all things. |
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I’m sure the difference is more pronounced in person. This is getting scary, though. Perhaps there is some value for accurate third party authentication for some cards that are bought on line. |
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Also, does this mean there are multiple copies of the 2/10 and 2/49 Luka cards in circulation? That would be addition damning evidence as well.
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CGC can also reference the 1/1 they authenticated, to see that the 2/10 copy is no good. https://www.cgccards.com/certlookup/6072536001/
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wow, I cannot believe someone caught that, great work. I wouldve fallen for it. Also looks like they cleaned up the white in the logo of the non graded luka from the one graded by CGC.
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