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Old 02-26-2026, 03:09 PM   #19601
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Lots of ways to dissect it! If you don’t count his rookies /100 or less, it’s probably in the 80’s. That would get rid of the out of reach ones anyway. Since who even has the 1/1’s or the medallion /25, etc, almost not even worth counting since they’re never seen, but the total number still is what it is


I now view it as 105 total is a relatively small number, since the realistic number is much less than 105. Heck, maybe it is in the 70’s as far as availability goes. Most of the really low ones I’ve never even seen up for auction


When is the last time you’ve seen quantum leaf infinity red? Or the medallion /25? Etc

Brady is so interesting because by all metrics a 6th rounder isn’t even supposed to make the team. Maybe a practice squad guy. Look what it turned into


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Brady is so interesting because by all metrics a 6th rounder isn’t even supposed to make the team. Maybe a practice squad guy. Look what it turned into


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Here’s an interesting thought, should the 7th qb in the draft make the team? Sounds like it could even be a starter!

Nix was the 6th qb taken, and he’s better than guys taken ahead of him, like Penix (lol) and McCarthy

Williams was number 1 but I’d rather have Daniels, Nix, Maye for sure.
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Old 02-26-2026, 04:24 PM   #19603
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Here’s an interesting thought, should the 7th qb in the draft make the team? Sounds like it could even be a starter!

Nix was the 6th qb taken, and he’s better than guys taken ahead of him, like Penix (lol) and McCarthy

Williams was number 1 but I’d rather have Daniels, Nix, Maye for sure.

Very true. Jalen was the 5th qb taken in 2020 and he’s been to two super bowls and won one compared to Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Love


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Old 02-26-2026, 04:35 PM   #19604
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Said I'd post some pics. Mainly a collector.

I forgot to include a few raw rookies like Pacific flagship. The National Treasures "Brady" patch is actually "used in a specific NFL game" and /50. The Goal post is from the first SB Louisiana Dome. Thought they were cool cards. My only auto now is the "TB12Collection" on the Fleer tradition, I think it adds a layer of authenticity and provenance. But I got it for a cheap price, 1.5k.
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Said I'd post some pics. Mainly a collector.

I forgot to include a few raw rookies like Pacific flagship. The National Treasures "Brady" patch is actually "used in a specific NFL game" and /50. The Goal post is from the first SB Louisiana Dome. Thought they were cool cards. My only auto now is the "TB12Collection" on the Fleer tradition, I think it adds a layer of authenticity and provenance. But I got it for a cheap price, 1.5k.

Beautiful cards! Love the TB12Collection auto


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Said I'd post some pics. Mainly a collector.

I forgot to include a few raw rookies like Pacific flagship. The National Treasures "Brady" patch is actually "used in a specific NFL game" and /50. The Goal post is from the first SB Louisiana Dome. Thought they were cool cards. My only auto now is the "TB12Collection" on the Fleer tradition, I think it adds a layer of authenticity and provenance. But I got it for a cheap price, 1.5k.
Impressive. How rare are 10s of the Fleer Tradition?
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Old 02-26-2026, 05:36 PM   #19607
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Three more Gold Prizm Brady’s hitting the auction block, this time on alt.

Never seen so many publicly available for such a supposedly rare set.
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Old 02-26-2026, 05:36 PM   #19608
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Impressive. How rare are 10s of the Fleer Tradition?
I would imagine very rare. But that's just a 10 auto, Authentic grade. It looks pretty solid but it's just the auto graded. I view grading as marketing/sales mainly, there's no real difference between a 9 and 10. I'd say I care about grading far more when we're talking 2010s-2020s ultra modern stuff.

Thanks though. Nothing crazy valuable but I have more Brady stuff and I'm working on something specific.
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Old 02-26-2026, 05:38 PM   #19609
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Three more Gold Prizm Brady’s hitting the auction block, this time on alt.

Never seen so many publicly available for such a supposedly rare set.

No more Prizm coming out and it’s iconic so people are buying. That’s what’s happening in basketball too as panini lost the license


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Old 02-26-2026, 06:18 PM   #19610
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Three more Gold Prizm Brady’s hitting the auction block, this time on alt.

Never seen so many publicly available for such a supposedly rare set.
Yeah it's pretty obvious. Don't want to beat a dead horse but it took me less than 2 mins to find Fanatics sold page of a 90k Brady 2013 Select gold in 2025 and somehow significantly lower 35k BGS 9 in 2022 during the covid peak. Their third highest sale was 18.6k in Dec. 2023 for a PSA 10 gold as well.

None of these sales are recognized by 130point except the last one for 18.6k.

Everything is so obviously price/value driven (similar to BTC, or any speculative asset) so when you establish "values" and "sales" it creates hype, fomo, and interest...

It also doesn't quite make sense how 2013 Select specifically is some sought after, valuable set - but I just bought an Aaron Rodgers 2013 silver prizm for 40 dollars OBO last night. So which one is it? Same with 2012 Prizm, I saw Rodgers/Manning silver prizms up for 300-400 dollars range and that's eBay BIN/OBO. So again, which one is it? Is this some sought after set like basketball or is it just Brady only? Doesn't really add up. Just odd.

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Old 02-26-2026, 06:55 PM   #19611
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Never seen so many publicly available for such a supposedly rare set.
Which is the 3rd one you are referring to?

I see a 2017 PSA 8 and a 2022 PSA 9.
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Yeah it's pretty obvious. Don't want to beat a dead horse but it took me less than 2 mins to find Fanatics sold page of a 90k Brady 2013 Select gold in 2025 and somehow significantly lower 35k BGS 9 in 2022 during the covid peak. Their third highest sale was 18.6k in Dec. 2023 for a PSA 10 gold as well.

None of these sales are recognized by 130point except the last one for 18.6k.

Everything is so obviously price/value driven (similar to BTC, or any speculative asset) so when you establish "values" and "sales" it creates hype, fomo, and interest...

It also doesn't quite make sense how 2013 Select specifically is some sought after, valuable set - but I just bought an Aaron Rodgers 2013 silver prizm for 40 dollars OBO last night. So which one is it? Same with 2012 Prizm, I saw Rodgers/Manning silver prizms up for 300-400 dollars range and that's eBay BIN/OBO. So again, which one is it? Is this some sought after set like basketball or is it just Brady only? Doesn't really add up. Just odd.
There’s a guy on IG who is close to completing a set run on the 2013 Select golds (he has all the big names just needs to fill in the rest). He has a good channel and does quality interviews with other higher end collectors. I have personally met a few of them and done deals for 2012 golds with some of them. They’re much deeper pocketed than I am but they’re not influencers/pumpers. They just enjoy the hobby and the chase. My guess is that is a big reason for the price increase in 2013 select golds as he does have a lot of followers He’s basically eliminated 10% of the market and a lot of those gold cards are probably buried in boxes and forgotten so they’re not popping up a lot.

You like to crap on all of those cards but there is also a faction of people buying those (2012 and 2013 golds) for major pieces of their PCs. Of course they were all pumped at one point or another (what hasn’t been?) but they happened to stick and are now a true chase card of the generation. Anyone watching current sales who’s holding a Brady gold is obviously contemplating selling and you’ll see them pop up from time to time but when you get into the rest of the set for golds you very rarely see the big names. Check recent sales for 2012 golds and you’ll be able to count on one hand the number of sales for Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Gronk, Charles Woodson, Eli Manning, Randy Moss, etc.
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There’s a guy on IG who is close to completing a set run on the 2013 Select golds (he has all the big names just needs to fill in the rest). He has a good channel and does quality interviews with other higher end collectors. I have personally met a few of them and done deals for 2012 golds with some of them. They’re much deeper pocketed than I am but they’re not influencers/pumpers. They just enjoy the hobby and the chase. My guess is that is a big reason for the price increase in 2013 select golds as he does have a lot of followers He’s basically eliminated 10% of the market and a lot of those gold cards are probably buried in boxes and forgotten so they’re not popping up a lot.

You like to crap on all of those cards but there is also a faction of people buying those (2012 and 2013 golds) for major pieces of their PCs. Of course they were all pumped at one point or another (what hasn’t been?) but they happened to stick and are now a true chase card of the generation. Anyone watching current sales who’s holding a Brady gold is obviously contemplating selling and you’ll see them pop up from time to time but when you get into the rest of the set for golds you very rarely see the big names. Check recent sales for 2012 golds and you’ll be able to count on one hand the number of sales for Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Gronk, Charles Woodson, Eli Manning, Randy Moss, etc.

What’s the YouTube channel?


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Which is the 3rd one you are referring to?

I see a 2017 PSA 8 and a 2022 PSA 9.
Just ignoring the Select 2014 gold or are we being pedantic here?
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Old 02-26-2026, 07:05 PM   #19615
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It’s IG Carlson cards. He’s got 100+ 2013 select golds it’s been fun watching his progress
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Old 02-26-2026, 07:08 PM   #19616
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There’s a guy on IG who is close to completing a set run on the 2013 Select golds (he has all the big names just needs to fill in the rest). He has a good channel and does quality interviews with other higher end collectors. I have personally met a few of them and done deals for 2012 golds with some of them. They’re much deeper pocketed than I am but they’re not influencers/pumpers. They just enjoy the hobby and the chase. My guess is that is a big reason for the price increase in 2013 select golds as he does have a lot of followers He’s basically eliminated 10% of the market and a lot of those gold cards are probably buried in boxes and forgotten so they’re not popping up a lot.

You like to crap on all of those cards but there is also a faction of people buying those (2012 and 2013 golds) for major pieces of their PCs. Of course they were all pumped at one point or another (what hasn’t been?) but they happened to stick and are now a true chase card of the generation. Anyone watching current sales who’s holding a Brady gold is obviously contemplating selling and you’ll see them pop up from time to time but when you get into the rest of the set for golds you very rarely see the big names. Check recent sales for 2012 golds and you’ll be able to count on one hand the number of sales for Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Gronk, Charles Woodson, Eli Manning, Randy Moss, etc.
Are you talking about CarlsonCards? I bought a card off him recently, watched some of stuff, nice guy.

I'm not crapping on the cards per se or anyone specifically. I'm saying that the AHs and some bigger nefarious "investors" are likely pumping. How do you explain the 90k gold sale for the 2013 Select or the second highest sale both not being confirmed by 130point for example. A glitch? It's marketing. They plaster these on the front page of their Auction House sites, etc. It's a new hot thing to chase and for whales to buy.

I'm not saying there isn't legit interest in these sets either. Go look at the last two pages, I have prizms, I have 2013-2014 selects prizms including Brady. I'm not willing to spend a ton on a gold Brady, a downpayment on a house level even if I could/can. But right, they were pumped. Still are probably. And are a "thing" and popularized by youtubers/instas and the more greedy auction houses, etc.

Also why is gold so special /10 compared to a green /15 for Select specifically? It's 5 print run longer, there might actually be less greens surviving packs in a given year. The color gold, the foil faking actualy gold is alluring to people? Sure. The prices are still extremely elevated and pumped imo, maybe they're going to stay there. Maybe not. But 99k for a 2013 sold last week, two weeks prior a 2014 gold Brady went for 84k. They're not as rare as people are saying they are, there's rarer cards like a 2003 Finest Gold refractor or 2002 Gold refractor that go for or would go for far less despite being far rarer and far earlier year, and arguably better sets/manufacturer.
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Just ignoring the Select 2014 gold or are we being pedantic here?
Most people do not call Select Gold "Gold Prizms." They call them "Select Gold." You are this close to becoming number 4 on my block list
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It’s IG Carlson cards. He’s got 100+ 2013 select golds it’s been fun watching his progress

Thank you! Definitely going to check it out


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There’s a guy on IG who is close to completing a set run on the 2013 Select golds (he has all the big names just needs to fill in the rest). He has a good channel and does quality interviews with other higher end collectors. I have personally met a few of them and done deals for 2012 golds with some of them. They’re much deeper pocketed than I am but they’re not influencers/pumpers. They just enjoy the hobby and the chase. My guess is that is a big reason for the price increase in 2013 select golds as he does have a lot of followers He’s basically eliminated 10% of the market and a lot of those gold cards are probably buried in boxes and forgotten so they’re not popping up a lot.

You like to crap on all of those cards but there is also a faction of people buying those (2012 and 2013 golds) for major pieces of their PCs. Of course they were all pumped at one point or another (what hasn’t been?) but they happened to stick and are now a true chase card of the generation. Anyone watching current sales who’s holding a Brady gold is obviously contemplating selling and you’ll see them pop up from time to time but when you get into the rest of the set for golds you very rarely see the big names. Check recent sales for 2012 golds and you’ll be able to count on one hand the number of sales for Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Gronk, Charles Woodson, Eli Manning, Randy Moss, etc.
And again for the record, I am not crapping on the cards. They are great looking cards. I like Finest and I like Prizm. I am far, far, from some RC elitist.

But at the end of the day, obviously rookie year cards have more importance generally. And I collect. So I give more importance to say 2014 which is the season where Brady/NE went on to win the SB vs SEA. Or 2016 - the ATL SB year. And if a 2015/2017 card makes note or homage of that SB win --- to me personally, I find meaning and importance in that. I value that.

I don't care what others value, other people dropped 10k-100k+ on NFTs five years ago. Or bought the latest PoopCoin crypto rug pull with their grandma's inheritance. Just saying...I like Select/Prizm, I just think they are clearly pumped and overvalued. I would much rather own a 2013 Select Green for 1k-2k if I could get that price for a 7 grade hypothetically, than tie up a signficant chunk of my assets into a fake gold foiled piece of cardboard for 70k-100k when I know, you know, and granny knows it has been pumped and may still be actively pumped (I believe it is).
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And again for the record, I am not crapping on the cards. They are great looking cards. I like Finest and I like Prizm. I am far, far, from some RC elitist.

But at the end of the day, obviously rookie year cards have more importance generally. And I collect. So I give more importance to say 2014 which is the season where Brady/NE went on to win the SB vs SEA. Or 2016 - the ATL SB year. And if a 2015/2017 card makes note or homage of that SB win --- to me personally, I find meaning and importance in that. I value that.

I don't care what others value, other people dropped 10k-100k+ on NFTs five years ago. Or bought the latest PoopCoin crypto rug pull with their grandma's inheritance. Just saying...I like Select/Prizm, I just think they are clearly pumped and overvalued. I would much rather own a 2013 Select Green for 1k-2k if I could get that price for a 7 grade hypothetically, than tie up a signficant chunk of my assets into a fake gold foiled piece of cardboard for 70k-100k when I know, you know, and granny knows it has been pumped and may still be actively pumped (I believe it is).
You could have had a select green /15 for $20 in 2016. It’s been 100x as well. You’re absolutely right that there is pumping and hyping and influence but that goes for literally everything across the board. You don’t want to spend 75k on a gold card but there are plenty of people who do (I’m not one of them but I understand why) and plenty of people who see the value in it. The market doesn’t need to make sense for it to exist but it exists.
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Most people do not call Select Gold "Gold Prizms." They call them "Select Gold." You are this close to becoming number 4 on my block list
I didn't originally say there were three prizms. The response to the original guy with "where's the third" is completely ridiculous. Apparently you don't even know what the word "pedantic" means. You are insufferable honestly, so go ahead and block me.
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You could have had a select green /15 for $20 in 2016. It’s been 100x as well. You’re absolutely right that there is pumping and hyping and influence but that goes for literally everything across the board. You don’t want to spend 75k on a gold card but there are plenty of people who do (I’m not one of them but I understand why) and plenty of people who see the value in it. The market doesn’t need to make sense for it to exist but it exists.
Fair enough, I know a lot has been pumped and it's a fair point. The question is why should cards stay at this valuation? As you said, you could have got the Green Select 2013 Brady for 20 bucks in 2016. I'm sure it was probably 50-100 bucks at most in 2018 or 2019 pre-covid. And I'm sure the gold wasn't too much more expensive really. Cards prior to covid-inflation-money printing were just factually, clearly, worth far less money. Far less value.

A 1986 Fleer Jordan sold for ~500 bucks in the early 2000s. Even all the way up from 2017-2019 to the "boom" it was 1k-5k range at most. Well it went to 50k-80k+ ranges during covid, then during this recent dip it bottomed around 15k. Now it's worth 25k-30k again.

The point being, you say the market doesn't need to make sense. Sure. But it does need to have the perception of value and appreciation. For all these wannabe investors to be interested. Otherwise it crashes. So we'll see, I'm hoping cards retain interest but it seems a bit elevated but everything is right now to be fair.
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For the record, people collect gold Prizms because it’s /10 (rare) and beautiful…we all know it’s not real gold…eye appeal, rarity And lineage matters for collectors
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For the record, people collect gold Prizms because it’s /10 (rare) and beautiful…we all know it’s not real gold…eye appeal, rarity And lineage matters for collectors

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Fair enough, I know a lot has been pumped and it's a fair point. The question is why should cards stay at this valuation? As you said, you could have got the Green Select 2013 Brady for 20 bucks in 2016. I'm sure it was probably 50-100 bucks at most in 2018 or 2019 pre-covid. And I'm sure the gold wasn't too much more expensive really. Cards prior to covid-inflation-money printing were just factually, clearly, worth far less money. Far less value.

A 1986 Fleer Jordan sold for ~500 bucks in the early 2000s. Even all the way up from 2017-2019 to the "boom" it was 1k-5k range at most. Well it went to 50k-80k+ ranges during covid, then during this recent dip it bottomed around 15k. Now it's worth 25k-30k again.

The point being, you say the market doesn't need to make sense. Sure. But it does need to have the perception of value and appreciation. For all these wannabe investors to be interested. Otherwise it crashes. So we'll see, I'm hoping cards retain interest but it seems a bit elevated but everything is right now to be fair.
This is always the million dollar question with cards during booms. Nobody can predict where they will be in 10 years. For me, I see all of the ridiculousl amounts of money being poured into the infrastructure around the hobby for it to crash and burn anytime soon. Another major aspect is that gambling is as addictive of a drug as there is and that’s what is fueling the hobby as we speak.
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