Jordan 1986 PSA 9 “Stain”

[ab0]

Trying to negotiate a deal with a private seller and I’ve never come across a stain designation from PSA before. It’s graded a 9 which is appealing but was wondering what the stain designation does for the value.

This is the sticker variation for clarity.

Thoughts appreciated!

[rnocards]

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[ab0]

[ab0]

https://imgur.com/a/ZNh0nMk

[ab0]

Front is clean it’s just that part on the back right. doesn’t look awful

[rnocards]

What does the label on the front say? That's an old slab.

[ab0]

Mint 9
ST
11863021

[ab0]

https://imgur.com/a/aaHWUv8

[6celtics33]

Generally the thought is a qualifier is worth 2 levels so think PSA 7 prices. Others can chime in but I think that’s right.

[rainmaker]

tanks the value and limits the interest. IF its on the back and doesn't bother you. IF this is a PC Card and not an attempt to flip. THEN it might be worth it. I would make sure the centering and colors are great and the only flaw is the back stain. Truth be told I personally would stay away a qualifier is a big deal.

[swerve]

Last 3 sales I could find are 4880, 3473 and 4000

[rnocards]

Originally Posted by ab0

Mint 9
ST
11863021

The cert is: 11963021

PSA 9 (ST) is roughly comparable in market value to a PSA 7 or PSA 8, but it depends on the card, the severity of the stain, and the collector demand at the time.

I would make my intitial offer to the seller at the comp price of a PSA 7, which is about $1,500 at this time, but will not end up negotiating higher than a PSA 8, with comps at almost $3,000.

So... that's my target: $1,500 to $3,000

But, it's up to you.

[ab0]

I offered 2k and they passed, is what it is! Appreciate everyone

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Generally the thought is a qualifier is worth 2 levels so think PSA 7 prices. Others can chime in but I think that’s right.

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[swerve]

Originally Posted by ab0

I offered 2k and they passed, is what it is! Appreciate everyone

Yeah, it's been at least a year since one has sold that cheap.

[Gary]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Generally the thought is a qualifier is worth 2 levels so think PSA 7 prices. Others can chime in but I think that’s right.

Thats generally accepted......personally id rather have a PSA 7 than a PSA 9 with any Q....but that maybe a minority opinion.

[discodanman45]

People will buy these cards to remove the wax on the back to regrade. It is a glossy type back and panty hose will take it right off.

[Gary]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

People will buy these cards to remove the wax on the back to regrade. It is a glossy type back and panty hose will take it right off.

Kinda begs the question.......everyone knows the stickers all have a wax stain out of the packs.....yet PSA gives it a "st" quali if its not removed.....considering its how they came from the factory and the wax belongs there....should it not even be looked at as a stain?...also removing the wax is in part an alteration of how the card came from fleer.