LeBron James career!

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Bronsexuals rejoicing now... imagine TB era Brady supporters falling over themselves after a couple first round victories. Didn't happen because that was meaningless for him.

Sad. You take what you can get. }:-)

I often wonder what strawman arguments are. Thanks for giving examples.

[exitmusicblue]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

I often wonder what strawman arguments are. Thanks for giving examples.

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Every time you emphasize 2nd greatest like that, you enrage the (BO) hordes. I dig it.

Nah, everyone knows MJ is number one. It’s not that close in my book.

I just like to call out idiotic arguments that hold no water. It’s so easy to do with you all.

“Bronsexual” is something only a 12 year old would think is clever.

The anti-bron guys on this board are by far the most nonsensical on here. Or delusional?

[rhigh2390]

Too much stuff to respond to. I'll say (and have said for years) that Lebron is a top tier all-time great. His fans are also the worst in the history of sports. And his "haters" have had a lot more happy times than sad times in his 22+ years.


Continue on with the circle jerk


Also, since this is his career thread, I think he could legitimately play another 3 years near this level if he wanted to and would be fine being paid as a 3rd option.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Too much stuff to respond to. I'll say (and have said for years) that Lebron is a top tier all-time great. His fans are also the worst in the history of sports. And his "haters" have had a lot more happy times than sad times in his 22+ years.


Continue on with the circle jerk


Also, since this is his career thread, I think he could legitimately play another 3 years near this level if he wanted to and would be fine being paid as a 3rd option.

Please give examples of fans that have had more happy times than sad times. The context will be exhilarating.

[pingbling23]

Point blank, what sums up being a LeBron fan. Was anointed the next mj (this is the era I didn’t like him), was one of the best players in the league early but didn’t win until the “normal” winning time frame. Won 4 titles and 4 fmvps putting him in very elite territory. Has crushed all time stats and is second to none when factoring all around stats. Witnessed the doubt, to the disbelief and denial, and now the revisionist history. What a ride. So many times of he’s fell off and he’s still doing what he does at 41. Simply amazing. To discredit the consensus #2 and no debating top 5 of all time really puts a stain on any player not mj. But that’s what the haters do.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Please give examples of fans that have had more happy times than sad times. The context will be exhilarating.

This is dumb to have to explain but ok.

If you are a fan of a player, you are going to have more happy times than sad times because you will enjoy a good game on a random Tuesday night against a bottom feeder. If you are a hater of said player, you don't care about that stuff, you just care that they lose when it matters. So if you hate Lebron, you've been happy 18 out of 22 years. To act like Lebron haters have had a rough 22+ years is laughable. MJ haters are the same when they talk about the years he didn't win.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Point blank, what sums up being a LeBron fan. Was anointed the next mj (this is the era I didn’t like him), was one of the best players in the league early but didn’t win until the “normal” winning time frame. Won 4 titles and 4 fmvps putting him in very elite territory. Has crushed all time stats and is second to none when factoring all around stats. Witnessed the doubt, to the disbelief and denial, and now the revisionist history. What a ride. So many times of he’s fell off and he’s still doing what he does at 41. Simply amazing. To discredit the consensus #2 and no debating top 5 of all time really puts a stain on any player not mj. But that’s what the haters do.

I must not be a true hater then because I have him top 5 for sure.

[Asian62150]

LeBron's 4-6 record in the Finals means he got there 10 times. That's ridiculous in this day and age.

Sure, MJ is 6-0 in the Finals but as a Bull, his teams weren't even good enough to make the Finals in 7 of those years.

I would still take MJ over Bron because I grew up in Chicago and I'm just not betting against prime MJ. But I can understand Bron bois loving their guy. What he's done and even what he's doing right now at age 41 is incredible.

Haters gonna hate, but it's very unlikely we're going to see another player like LeBron. He says some goofy/dumb things, and he's been narcissistic. But he's never gotten in trouble with the law, seems to genuinely care about being a good father, loves the fans, and is kind of a basketball nerd. Enjoy him while you still can.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Point blank, what sums up being a LeBron fan. Was anointed the next mj (this is the era I didn’t like him), was one of the best players in the league early but didn’t win until the “normal” winning time frame. Won 4 titles and 4 fmvps putting him in very elite territory. Has crushed all time stats and is second to none when factoring all around stats. Witnessed the doubt, to the disbelief and denial, and now the revisionist history. What a ride. So many times of he’s fell off and he’s still doing what he does at 41. Simply amazing. To discredit the consensus #2 and no debating top 5 of all time really puts a stain on any player not mj. But that’s what the haters do.

Consensus #2?

A guy who couldn’t even better two different contemporary teams in the warriors and spurs (1-3 record in finals versus warriors, 1-2 record versus spurs in finals) and doesn’t even have a career winning finals record, whereas everyone else in the top 5 do?

Sounds like a stat padder and longevity argument to me, which is the only thing Bron homers have to fall back on. He is a top 2 natural basketball talent toolbox of all time, it’s just unfortunate his other intangibles couldn’t translate into more rings.

Love his individual accomplishments, but you can feel shame about his team performance. Even better, you can tuck your head back in your shells regarding his public persona - #1 clueless entitled millennial megalomaniac.

Simply underwhelming.

[hermanotarjeta]

Number one piece of evidence that Bron has zero fans besides Millennial egg baskets - Gen Z has even started meme-ing LeBron.

That’s a universal sign that he has achieved maximum cringe according to the rest of society.

But but but he’s played the most games and has the most points - does that really mean anything if he can’t win more of what’s most important than he loses?

Society has treated millennials unfairly - we are all sorry you got Bron as your idol.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

This is dumb to have to explain but ok.

If you are a fan of a player, you are going to have more happy times than sad times because you will enjoy a good game on a random Tuesday night against a bottom feeder. If you are a hater of said player, you don't care about that stuff, you just care that they lose when it matters. So if you hate Lebron, you've been happy 18 out of 22 years. To act like Lebron haters have had a rough 22+ years is laughable. MJ haters are the same when they talk about the years he didn't win.

Read this to yourself and you will maybe see how dumb your initial post and subsequent explanation is.

[pingbling23]

And I’ve never had to refute that argument against mj. It wasn’t really brought to light until the weak argument was brought against LeBron because he actually made it to the finals so many times.

[pingbling23]

Well haters did try to criticize mj for not making the playoffs for the wizards but I quickly pointed out his above average contributions at his age and if it was reasonable that he would be able to lead them to the playoffs. I appreciated and enjoyed the wizards years so I was biased against any slander thrown his way.

[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Consensus #2?

A guy who couldn’t even better two different contemporary teams in the warriors and spurs (1-3 record in finals versus warriors, 1-2 record versus spurs in finals) and doesn’t even have a career winning finals record, whereas everyone else in the top 5 do?

Sounds like a stat padder and longevity argument to me, which is the only thing Bron homers have to fall back on. He is a top 2 natural basketball talent toolbox of all time, it’s just unfortunate his other intangibles couldn’t translate into more rings.

Love his individual accomplishments, but you can feel shame about his team performance. Even better, you can tuck your head back in your shells regarding his public persona - #1 clueless entitled millennial megalomaniac.

Simply underwhelming.

The point you MUST ignore context to put him down shows how great he is. He lost to DYNASTIES. People have to put down an entire franchises glory years just to make an argument against him. Even if it is their own franchise they are fans of. Guy dragged bums to the playoffs for a majority of his career.

The finals argument is old and also outdated. Idc what anyone says. The nba has grown and brought in elite talent. Name the best players of today and where they’re from… Giannis, Wembanyama, Jokic, Luka, SGA…

If you don’t have him top 5. You’re simply a hater. There is NO way a true basketball fan cannot see his “intangibles”. Are you not watching how he manipulates and controls games.. even at 41? It is insane

Life is short and I am not sure we will ever see anything like this again. So why not appreciate it and try to be positive? I don’t get it…

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

The point you MUST ignore context to put him down shows how great he is. He lost to DYNASTIES. People have to put down an entire franchises glory years just to make an argument against him. Even if it is their own franchise they are fans of. Guy dragged bums to the playoffs for a majority of his career.

The finals argument is old and also outdated. Idc what anyone says. The nba has grown and brought in elite talent. Name the best players of today and where they’re from… Giannis, Wembanyama, Jokic, Luka, SGA…

If you don’t have him top 5. You’re simply a hater. There is NO way a true basketball fan cannot see his “intangibles”. Are you not watching how he manipulates and controls games.. even at 41? It is insane

Life is short and I am not sure we will ever see anything like this again. So why not appreciate it and try to be positive? I don’t get it…

Oh gosh, not the Bron + katseye in heels rosters Lexcuses again?

Who does Bron EASILY displace out of the top 5?

Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Russell
Duncan

None of these guys were dominated by any “dynasties” during their eras of play, not to mention TWO dynasties.

All of them were the dynasty because of their greatness, they never had to BLAME their self-picked or superteam-hopped rosters like MeBron for their failures.

Bron homers are the worst - repeating the same defeated arguments over and over again. It’s this tunnel vision that prevents all Bron bois from seeing the big picture.

Consensus #2 with a 4-6?

Laughable.

[hermanotarjeta]

It’s impossible to be positive for Bron with:

Lechozenone

Ledecision

Leflop

Ledefer

Leblame

Lefootinmouth

Sure, you guys can enjoy his padded stats and most games - call him the greatest point accumulator in history or Mr longevity - nothing wrong with that.

But consensus #2?

How millennial of you guys.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Oh gosh, not the Bron + katseye in heels rosters Lexcuses again?

Who does Bron EASILY displace out of the top 5?

Jordan
Magic
Kareem
Russell
Duncan

None of these guys were dominated by any “dynasties” during their eras of play, not to mention TWO dynasties.

All of them were the dynasty because of their greatness, they never had to BLAME their self-picked or superteam-hopped rosters like MeBron for their failures.

Bron homers are the worst - repeating the same defeated arguments over and over again. It’s this tunnel vision that prevents all Bron bois from seeing the big picture.

Consensus #2 with a 4-6?

Laughable.

In a pure on-court sense, you can easily take Bron ahead of Magic.

Bron is maybe a tick below Magic in terms of court vision (although one can argue Bron is just as good).

Both are versatile on the court, but Bron probably moreso.

Bron is a way better scorer than Magic and destroys Magic when it comes to both individual and help D.

Put Bron on those 80's Lakers teams and they probably win more than 5 titles. Put Magic on Bron's teams and I doubt they win 4 rings. Magic ain't taking Boobie Gibson to the Finals.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

In a pure on-court sense, you can easily take Bron ahead of Magic.

Bron is maybe a tick below Magic in terms of court vision (although one can argue Bron is just as good).

Both are versatile on the court, but Bron probably moreso.

Bron is a way better scorer than Magic and destroys Magic when it comes to both individual and help D.

Put Bron on those 80's Lakers teams and they probably win more than 5 titles. Put Magic on Bron's teams and I doubt they win 4 rings. Magic ain't taking Boobie Gibson to the Finals.

Let’s put Bron in Bill Russell’s spot - 16 titles?

The reality, versus multiverse scenarios, is Bron in Bron’s spot - a grossly disappointing 4-6 with all that god given talent.

It’s not like he didn’t join an already NBA champion roster, right?

It’s not like he played with two different number one draft picks to win his two other titles, right?


It’s always Bron and the pussycats victimized in the finals even though THE TEAM (Bron and kitty corpses) defeated every other professional team in the eastern conference to get there.

You know better than that, Asian bro.

Don’t fall for the Lechoke.

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Bron HATERS are the worst - repeating the same defeated arguments over and over again. It’s this tunnel vision that prevents all Bron HATERS from seeing the big picture.

Laughable.

This sums up all of your rantings very nicely.

Come on, use some critical thinking! You can do better. Although it is entertaining to read the way you are trying to twist things. I’m here for it, as the great Ninja would say.

[hermanotarjeta]

I love how Bron homers try to twist how NOT being part of a dominant dynasty makes him one of the greatest.

It’s funny how the Yankees, Bulls, Patriots and Oilers with their corresponding alpha dogs never had to make those Lexcuses.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Sticks33

This sums up all of your rantings very nicely.

Come on, use some critical thinking! You can do better. Although it is entertaining to read the way you are trying to twist things. I’m here for it, as the great Ninja would say.

herm has 0 critical thinking ability when it comes to talking about LeBron. The derangement syndrome is real.

[Kingofkings1281]

If the Lakers win this series I can see Hermano going into complete meltdown mode. He was so counting on being able to rail on LeBron for not being able to get it done “by himself”. Now the narrative will shift to it was just the Rockets. It was just KD. Luke Kennard carried him, etc. This will continue until they lose and then he can finally say “Haha I told you so!” For his sake, I hope it’s soon just because I’m worried about his mental health.

[asujbl]

It gets better by the day

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

If the Lakers win this series I can see Hermano going into complete meltdown mode. He was so counting on being able to rail on LeBron for not being able to get it done “by himself”. Now the narrative will shift to it was just the Rockets. It was just KD. Luke Kennard carried him, etc. This will continue until they lose and then he can finally say “Haha I told you so!” For his sake, I hope it’s soon just because I’m worried about his mental health.

No one is getting past OKC.

Taking credit for a first round ring sounds like the usual LeBron Lepology.

I’m not a Rockets fan or believer, but if they come back to win this meaningless first round series, will all Bron homers come out and blame their worshipfulness?

The answer is no. It will be the usual, but but but he played with a bunch of high school girls like Shennard and marcusette dumb and Lulu and beaver hurt their nails, lewhine, lewhine, lewhine.

The Bron boi MO has been played out for decades - when will y’all finally put Leblame on Lefail?