LeBron James career!

[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Of course it's wonderful that any parent has the opportunity to watch and even play with their child on the court/field. That's without saying.

What we discuss here however is about Lebron's career and his mark in NBA history and his impact on the card hobby - as you can tell it's one of the most polarizing topics in sports, not just here on a sports card message board.

So if you like the guy, buy his cards. If you don't like him, get rid of his cards. Everyone here is free to give their opinion on his play and his card market. I enjoy reading both sides of all the discussions. That's why we are all here.

Gosh. I wish we could have more of this side of you Hermano. I really do. We discuss lot more than just cards on here. We talk about the sport in general. And I just think sometimes it helps to take a step back and see what a special moment things are and what it means to the sport. Especially when it hasn’t been done and may never be done again. Seeing a parent play with their child in a playoff game to me is a special moment. I don’t care who it is, it’s a special moment. I was just hoping to see more positivity about it. Thought it would be a unifying moment for all when it comes to family. That moment transcends any differences in opinion we may have about a sport or a player to me.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

Gosh. I wish we could have more of this side of you Hermano. I really do. We discuss lot more than just cards on here. We talk about the sport in general. And I just think sometimes it helps to take a step back and see what a special moment things are and what it means to the sport. Especially when it hasn’t been done and may never be done again. Seeing a parent play with their child in a playoff game to me is a special moment. I don’t care who it is, it’s a special moment. I was just hoping to see more positivity about it. Thought it would be a unifying moment for all when it comes to family. That moment transcends any differences in opinion we may have about a sport or a player to me.

He’s lying

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

Gosh. I wish we could have more of this side of you Hermano. I really do. We discuss lot more than just cards on here. We talk about the sport in general. And I just think sometimes it helps to take a step back and see what a special moment things are and what it means to the sport. Especially when it hasn’t been done and may never be done again. Seeing a parent play with their child in a playoff game to me is a special moment. I don’t care who it is, it’s a special moment. I was just hoping to see more positivity about it. Thought it would be a unifying moment for all when it comes to family. That moment transcends any differences in opinion we may have about a sport or a player to me.

For me, one of my greatest moments in life was working with my dad. That period of time was excellent. He got to see the man he helped produce, and I got to learn from his wisdom. Truly one of the best memories I have


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[asujbl]

Herm is a sociopath

If watching Criminal Minds taught me anything it’s that don’t engage with a potential serial killer

Stop replying to Herm

[Bosoxfan5990]

LeIncredible.

[Asian62150]

Hermano has an amazing 2024 Gilded Gold Storm collection.

Maybe seeing the LeBron Gold Storm this year will open his eyes. (assuming they make it!)

If I were more tech savvy, I would insert that Indiana Jones "It's beautiful!!!" gi

[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by livfreely

For me, one of my greatest moments in life was working with my dad. That period of time was excellent. He got to see the man he helped produce, and I got to learn from his wisdom. Truly one of the best memories I have


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I think we are all old enough and mature enough to relate to this and look past arguing over a sport.

To keep on topic. The way I view it right now. We are watching history. I try not to take things for granted. You never know how many monumental moments you’ll get to see. Life goes by fast. I try my best to appreciate all of it.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

I think we are all old enough and mature enough to relate to this and look past arguing over a sport.

To keep on topic. The way I view it right now. We are watching history. I try not to take things for granted. You never know how many monumental moments you’ll get to see. Life goes by fast. I try my best to appreciate all of it.

Whether you like the dude or not, what he's doing at 41 is incredible.

I'm not a huge Brady guy, but seeing him put up a second HOF career after age 40 was absurd. I think his resume after age 40 would be one of the best QB resumes of all time.

I doubt we will see guys like the two of them again in our lifetimes. The discipline and dedication to their craft from nutrition to preparation hopefully inspires the next generation.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by livfreely

For me, one of my greatest moments in life was working with my dad. That period of time was excellent. He got to see the man he helped produce, and I got to learn from his wisdom. Truly one of the best memories I have


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Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

I think we are all old enough and mature enough to relate to this and look past arguing over a sport.

To keep on topic. The way I view it right now. We are watching history. I try not to take things for granted. You never know how many monumental moments you’ll get to see. Life goes by fast. I try my best to appreciate all of it.

I’ve been blessed to have had the opportunity to work with my father as well.

He did his job because it was his duty in life, he never expected any thanks and the work he put in to do his best was unmatched.

He never needed to:

1. Announce his arrival to his profession
2. Abandon the community he worked for
3. Entitle himself in his profession
4. Announce a shift in his career when he changed directions
5. Accuse others while dealing with his own setbacks
6. Pretend to be something he’s not
7. Doubt himself in times of pressure

He stayed true to himself, worked things out from within and achieved greatness due to his desire to be the best, all without any expectations of gratitude or adulation.

So you can clearly see, it’s that philosophy in life that I respect the most, and unfortunately, LeBron just doesn’t have it. He’s never understood why people dislike him and he probably never will.

It’s wonderful Lebron is trying to be a great father, but LeBron the basketball player has much left to be desired.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Hermano has an amazing 2024 Gilded Gold Storm collection.

Maybe seeing the LeBron Gold Storm this year will open his eyes. (assuming they make it!)

If I were more tech savvy, I would insert that Indiana Jones "It's beautiful!!!" gi

Thanks for the shoutout, Asian bro!

Excited to see if gilded is on the docket for basketball - may need to land a chef curry.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I’ve been blessed to have had the opportunity to work with my father as well.

He did his job because it was his duty in life, he never expected any thanks and the work he put in to do his best was unmatched.

He never needed to:

1. Announce his arrival to his profession
2. Abandon the community he worked for
3. Entitle himself in his profession
4. Announce a shift in his career when he changed directions
5. Accuse others while dealing with his own setbacks
6. Pretend to be something he’s not
7. Doubt himself in times of pressure

He stayed true to himself, worked things out from within and achieved greatness due to his desire to be the best, all without any expectations of gratitude or adulation.

So you can clearly see, it’s that philosophy in life that I respect the most, and unfortunately, LeBron just doesn’t have it. He’s never understood why people dislike him and he probably never will.

It’s wonderful Lebron is trying to be a great father, but LeBron the basketball player has much left to be desired.

Psychopath

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Psychopath

Bron really traumatized the state of Ohio, huh?

The best and most respectful thing he could possibly do to salvage his tarnished reputation is to finish his career on the Cavaliers. I would even commend him for doing so, even if he did it in the form of a decision #3.

Let’s see if he will finally “get it” for once in his career.

[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I’ve been blessed to have had the opportunity to work with my father as well.

He did his job because it was his duty in life, he never expected any thanks and the work he put in to do his best was unmatched.

He never needed to:

1. Announce his arrival to his profession
2. Abandon the community he worked for
3. Entitle himself in his profession
4. Announce a shift in his career when he changed directions
5. Accuse others while dealing with his own setbacks
6. Pretend to be something he’s not
7. Doubt himself in times of pressure

He stayed true to himself, worked things out from within and achieved greatness due to his desire to be the best, all without any expectations of gratitude or adulation.

So you can clearly see, it’s that philosophy in life that I respect the most, and unfortunately, LeBron just doesn’t have it. He’s never understood why people dislike him and he probably never will.

It’s wonderful Lebron is trying to be a great father, but LeBron the basketball player has much left to be desired.

I think I could make a point against each one of those statements but you’re entitled to your opinion and I doubt anything I say would change or even help you see it any other way. You don’t know me personally. So I’m sure anything I say probably holds little to no value.

1. The media announced him at the age of 16. And in the spotlight. Not a single scandal from him nor his family
2. He’s in a different profession and I think the organization failed him more than the other way around in his first stint. However, he did bring them a title.
3. I’m not sure what this means
4. That’s fair. But also. The proceedings went to a good cause. So I consider that a wash
5. Who did he accuse? I’m positive they tried to throw kyrie under the bus and he stepped up and said put the blame on me. But if you want. Look at the body language and leadership of KD. Then look how the team and people respond to LeBron. We aren’t in the locker room. But I do not hear many people who actually played with him stating he’s a locker room cancer.
6. What does he pretend to be?
7. I’m not sure where you get doubt himself. He has the ball in his hands more than not. He makes the right play. We can disagree on forcing up a shot vs trusting your teammates with an open one.

I’m glad we can agree on the family/human portion. Even his kids have been in the spotlight their whole lives with the way media is and I think they hold themselves well considering.

That last statement is the best statement I think I’ve seen in this whole thread. Thank you

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Not only do Bron homers want a first round consolation ring, now they are painting Houston as a “heavily favored” dynasty that the underdog Bron and the pussycats have somehow miraculously slayed against the world.

You guys are entertaining for sure.

I would consider -750 heavily favored

[KhalDrogo]

LeBron played it smart this year. Minimal regular season effort. Even less than the rest of these bums give across the league. Regular season is irrelevant anyway.

Now maximum effort in the playoffs. This is how everyone should do it. Condense the season into two months where games are very spread out.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I would consider -750 heavily favored

Does that make it even more incredible for you that the Lakers won last night?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

LeBron played it smart this year. Minimal regular season effort. Even less than the rest of these bums give across the league. Regular season is irrelevant anyway.

Now maximum effort in the playoffs. This is how everyone should do it. Condense the season into two months where games are very spread out.

Call it smart or call it manipulative, LeBron has always done throughout his entire career what it takes to try to get a ring.

The way in which we has done it, however, is what has opened him up to criticism.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Just imagine. The year is 2003...

These folks have no idea how much stress heartache LeBron James is going to cause them for the next 23 years of their life and counting.

It must be exhausting

I think it looks far more exhausting needing to defend the guy constantly.

And a few LeBron fanaticals on here need to resort to calling Hermano all kinds of names. Quite sad really.

Plus, if you get a lot out of seeing LeBron fail (he tends to fail A LOT), it hasn't been stressful at all. If LeBron didn't say such stupid things and his fans weren't so insufferable things would be different.

In saying that, LeBron's body of work will be pretty crazy. I do think he's on Lance Armstrong's level of doping though.

Bron started tailing off in 2018 when Hezonja blocked him for the win. Since then LeBron got back in the "lab". Plus the game is so easy now. LeBron even said he wished he was in his prime in this era.

The NBA went a bit too far with the entertainment side of things.

I've never seen soccer change too much over the years. I'm not sure the NBA was so desperate to change.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

LeBron played it smart this year. Minimal regular season effort. Even less than the rest of these bums give across the league. Regular season is irrelevant anyway.

Now maximum effort in the playoffs. This is how everyone should do it. Condense the season into two months where games are very spread out.

Lebron played 60 games this year. while averaging 34 minutes per game. He also averaged 8 minutes per game in the 4th quarter which was among the league leaders in the NBA.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I think it looks far more exhausting needing to defend the guy constantly.

And a few LeBron fanaticals on here need to resort to calling Hermano all kinds of names. Quite sad really.

Plus, if you get a lot out of seeing LeBron fail (he tends to fail A LOT), it hasn't been stressful at all. If LeBron didn't say such stupid things and his fans weren't so insufferable things would be different.

In saying that, LeBron's body of work will be pretty crazy. I do think he's on Lance Armstrong's level of doping though.

Bron started tailing off in 2018 when Hezonja blocked him for the win. Since then LeBron got back in the "lab". Plus the game is so easy now. LeBron even said he wished he was in his prime in this era.

The NBA went a bit too far with the entertainment side of things.

I've never seen soccer change too much over the years. I'm not sure the NBA was so desperate to change.

The glorified 3 point contest called the regular season will keep Bron in the game until he is 50, lol

[calmar]

One of the common features of the LeBron-hater's argument involves their contention that LeBron came up short in 2010 against the Celtics and 2011 versus the Mavs. (You know, 15 years ago.)

Which is true. But the neat trick they try to pull off, which works if you're a dipshit, is suggesting implicitly that this isn't true of other greats, when it's actually true of virtually all of them.

Even after his 1980 Finals heroics in Game 6, Magic had a reputation as a choker -- see the 1984 Finals and other moments -- until he sank the baby hook against the Celtics in Game 4 of the 1987 Finals.

Larry Bird was not good in the 1982 Eastern Conference Finals against the 76ers. He also was not very good in the 1983 Eastern Conference Semis against the Bucks, and that stacked Celtics team got swept, 4-0.

Kareem was thoroughly outplayed in the playoffs twice by Moses Malone.

Wilt was incredible but had a lot of bad playoff moments and lost repeatedly.

Russell was dominated by Wilt in the 1967 Eastern Division Finals.

With Kobe you can take your pick of 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008.

Even Jordan had more weak playoff moments than people realize, especially after the mythologizing of The Last Dance.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by calmar

One of the common features of the LeBron-hater's argument involves their contention that LeBron came up short in 2010 against the Celtics and 2011 versus the Mavs. (You know, 15 years ago.)

Which is true. But the neat trick they try to pull off, which works if you're a dipshit, is suggesting implicitly that this isn't true of other greats, when it's actually true of virtually all of them.

Even after his 1980 Finals heroics in Game 6, Magic had a reputation as a choker -- see the 1984 Finals and other moments -- until he sank the baby hook against the Celtics in Game 4 of the 1987 Finals.

Larry Bird was not good in the 1982 Eastern Conference Finals against the 76ers. He also was not very good in the 1983 Eastern Conference Semis against the Bucks, and that stacked Celtics team got swept, 4-0.

Kareem was thoroughly outplayed in the playoffs twice by Moses Malone.

Wilt was incredible but had a lot of bad playoff moments and lost repeatedly.

Russell was dominated by Wilt in the 1967 Eastern Division Finals.

With Kobe you can take your pick of 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008.

Even Jordan had more weak playoff moments than people realize, especially after the mythologizing of The Last Dance.

Very true. And what did LeBron do after that? Back to back titles/ fmvps, brought a title to Cleveland beating the 73 win warriors, and then brought a title to the lakers during the year of Kobe’s death.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by calmar

One of the common features of the LeBron-hater's argument involves their contention that LeBron came up short in 2010 against the Celtics and 2011 versus the Mavs. (You know, 15 years ago.)

Which is true. But the neat trick they try to pull off, which works if you're a dipshit, is suggesting implicitly that this isn't true of other greats, when it's actually true of virtually all of them.

Even after his 1980 Finals heroics in Game 6, Magic had a reputation as a choker -- see the 1984 Finals and other moments -- until he sank the baby hook against the Celtics in Game 4 of the 1987 Finals.

Larry Bird was not good in the 1982 Eastern Conference Finals against the 76ers. He also was not very good in the 1983 Eastern Conference Semis against the Bucks, and that stacked Celtics team got swept, 4-0.

Kareem was thoroughly outplayed in the playoffs twice by Moses Malone.

Wilt was incredible but had a lot of bad playoff moments and lost repeatedly.

Russell was dominated by Wilt in the 1967 Eastern Division Finals.

With Kobe you can take your pick of 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008.

Even Jordan had more weak playoff moments than people realize, especially after the mythologizing of The Last Dance.

There's a new insult. Calling anti-Bron guys dipshits.

Man you guys are classless.

Every top 10 guy had failures. LeBron's just had so many more.

And imagine if after their failure, they wanted half the team traded, the coach fired or they left!

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

There's a new insult. Calling anti-Bron guys dipshits.

Man you guys are classless.

Every top 10 guy had failures. LeBron's just had so many more.

And imagine if after their failure, they wanted half the team traded, the coach fired or they left!

Hey, the LeBron steroid guy. How’s your conspiracy theories going? Any others to add?

So if he had said “Ledipshit” like you do, would you feel better?

Your narrative is tired. Grow up. Or at least use some critical thinking.

[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

There's a new insult. Calling anti-Bron guys dipshits.

Man you guys are classless.

Every top 10 guy had failures. LeBron's just had so many more.

And imagine if after their failure, they wanted half the team traded, the coach fired or they left!

… someone who calls LeBron fans “bronsexuals and trying to create a language out of “Le” take your pick ending has the audacity to gaslight and say the fans resorts to name calling?? This is absolutely despicable and disgusting behavior.

The haters absolutely have a knack for accusing the fans for doing EXACTLY what they do and did in the first place. There should be no place on here for gaslighting