Aaron Rodgers at end of carreer will be....

squigsmx31 · 06-11-2013, 09:21 PM

TheBurg · 06-11-2013, 09:23 PM

One of those all-time greats who doesn't quite make the conversation for best QB.

Nyfancam01 · 06-11-2013, 09:24 PM

He'll be in the HOF but no Tom Brady and not top 5

sportscards0513 · 06-11-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

One of those all-time greats who doesn't quite make the conversation for best QB.

Took the words out of my mouth.

LGBuffalo · 06-11-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

One of those all-time greats who doesn't quite make the conversation for best QB.

Bingo. My sentiments exactly.

mindbinge · 06-11-2013, 09:25 PM

No way he'll be the best or even top 5 unless he starts collecting super bowl rings in bunches...he's a great QB and should make HOF though.

Brando19 · 06-11-2013, 09:41 PM

I'm drinking Koolaid....greatest QB of all time. And my Aaron Rodgers auto collection will be worth thousands!

mattfastiggi · 06-11-2013, 10:02 PM

Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system.

But I agree with others...."great HOF QB"

SDcardguy24 · 06-11-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBurg

One of those all-time greats who doesn't quite make the conversation for best QB.

No point in anyone posting now since the first reply was perfect.

trixstar · 06-11-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system.

VikingsAllDay · 06-11-2013, 10:05 PM

Wonder what he will do without jennings and driver.

He didn't play so well when Nelson and jennings where out

ssbledsoe · 06-11-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system.

But I agree with others...."great HOF QB"

Yeah, that Belichick system that tore it up in Cleveland...

rbb147 · 06-11-2013, 10:17 PM

disgraced and banned from the HOF, after $250 million of tax payer money is lost over 4 failed and one successful conviction by congress for lieing to a grand jury about using adderall.

jdeli27 · 06-11-2013, 10:20 PM

I HAD to comment...who is considered on the list of greatest of all time as far as qbs??? Brady IS absolutely up there.....you cant say that.....so is Montana not on that list either?? Factor of Walsh's system along with having Rice to throw to...never threw for 4000 yds and only 30 tds once....I'm not saying Brady is the best but you cant factor him out of the convo....Montana went to KC and did NOTHING and is still considered one of the top qbs of all time....Montana had the best team of the 80's....Brady had horrible receivers that he turned into superstars..Anyways Rodgers will be a great hall of famer qb as long as he stays consistent over the next 6-10 years

Brysond · 06-11-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Yeah, that Belichick system that tore it up in Cleveland...

Does anything ever work in cleveland? Lol
Belicheat..

HBMC · 06-12-2013, 12:24 AM

...out of the league *bad dum, tish*

Kosmo Kards · 06-12-2013, 03:10 AM

I think he has a shot at top 5 all time. Payton and Favre only have one SB ring. Marnio has zero. One more SB would be nice.

DieselPack1996 · 06-12-2013, 04:05 AM

I think you guys are strongly under estimating his stats. His first couple of years are a set back to his HOF status as he had some stats but didn't really play. His "BAD" year had him ending with a 93.8 passer rating not bad by any means. We just have come to know Rodgers and someone to make every play so when he only makes some or the team isn't the highest scoreing team in the league any more it appears he is doing worse than he is. If and a strong IF he continues to play at the rate he is now for another 6 years you could make an argument that he is the most Accurate passer ever but thats about all I see in terms of HOF stand out stats he only has 21,000 yards after 6 seasons yikes wouldnt even make 50,000 in 12 seasons its weird because he seems so much better than Brett Favre yet his Yard stats are so much worse

squigsmx31 · 06-12-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jdeli27

I HAD to comment...who is considered on the list of greatest of all time as far as qbs??? Brady IS absolutely up there.....you cant say that.....so is Montana not on that list either?? Factor of Walsh's system along with having Rice to throw to...never threw for 4000 yds and only 30 tds once....I'm not saying Brady is the best but you cant factor him out of the convo....Montana went to KC and did NOTHING and is still considered one of the top qbs of all time....Montana had the best team of the 80's....Brady had horrible receivers that he turned into superstars..Anyways Rodgers will be a great hall of famer qb as long as he stays consistent over the next 6-10 years

If you put it that way Manning is the best.

RedSoxFan28 · 06-12-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system.

But I agree with others...."great HOF QB"

burke23 · 06-12-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselPack1996

I think you guys are strongly under estimating his stats. His first couple of years are a set back to his HOF status as he had some stats but didn't really play. His "BAD" year had him ending with a 93.8 passer rating not bad by any means. We just have come to know Rodgers and someone to make every play so when he only makes some or the team isn't the highest scoreing team in the league any more it appears he is doing worse than he is. If and a strong IF he continues to play at the rate he is now for another 6 years you could make an argument that he is the most Accurate passer ever but thats about all I see in terms of HOF stand out stats he only has 21,000 yards after 6 seasons yikes wouldnt even make 50,000 in 12 seasons its weird because he seems so much better than Brett Favre yet his Yard stats are so much worse

I can't tell if you are kidding since only 4 players have 50,000 yards for their career (and all played well over 12 seasons). Especially since he has 21000 yards in 5 years of starting. How does a Pack fan not know that?!

freethrowtommy · 06-12-2013, 04:34 PM

To those who argue "greatness" is based on Super Bowl rings...

Where do you put Marino?

How about Peyton Manning with only 1 ring?

freethrowtommy · 06-12-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingsAllDay

Wonder what he will do without jennings and driver.

He didn't play so well when Nelson and jennings where out

Really?

Jennings played 8 games last year, Nelson missed 4 games, and Driver was a 5th string WR.

Rodgers had his SECOND best season of his career behind his insane MVP year.

Anyone who thinks Driver matters in who the Packers lost this offseason has NO IDEA what they are talking about.

ChicoCheese · 06-12-2013, 05:24 PM

I think Aaron will make the Top 5 list, and here is why:

1) He will retire with the highest QB rating of all time. To those who say that it doesn't matter, I say that it does. That # is a representation of HOW WELL the QB passes.

2) He will retire with possibly the lowest INT% ever.

3) He will retire with AT LEAST 2 championships.

Those are the 3 things that I feel comfortable guaranteeing. He maybe not retire with 500+ TD passes, but he will be one of the most reliable, effective, and smart QBs to ever play the game.

I can half-way understand the Brady argument...but the whole spygate thing really spoils me on him. Also, since spygate broke they have yet to win a championship. Pretty strange...

I think the top 5, in no particular order, will include Favre, Montana, Brady (not by my vote...) , Elway, and Rodgers (again, when it is all said and done, and this point I would say no.)

LGBuffalo · 06-12-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mattfastiggi

Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system.

But I agree with others...."great HOF QB"

That's just not true.

View Poll Results: Aaron Rodgers at end of carreer will be....
Great non hall of famer	45	12.93%
great hall of famer QB	218	62.64%
top 5 all time hall of famer QB	67	19.25%
Greatest QB of all time	18	5.17%
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mindbinge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 7,105 mindbinge mindbinge	No way he'll be the best or even top 5 unless he starts collecting super bowl rings in bunches...he's a great QB and should make HOF though. __________________ Super Collector - Looking for anything of Ahmad Bradshaw!-

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Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	He'll be in the HOF but no Tom Brady and not top 5

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mattfastiggi Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 276	Sorry but Tom Brady is NOT one of the greatest of all times, he's a factor of Belichick's system. But I agree with others...."great HOF QB"

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VikingsAllDay Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 7,793 skolvikingsallday	Wonder what he will do without jennings and driver. He didn't play so well when Nelson and jennings where out __________________ Kyle Rudolph Collector http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/vikingsallday/library/cards%20FT?sort=3&page=1

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rbb147 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,188	disgraced and banned from the HOF, after $250 million of tax payer money is lost over 4 failed and one successful conviction by congress for lieing to a grand jury about using adderall.

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jdeli27 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 156 deliman27	I HAD to comment...who is considered on the list of greatest of all time as far as qbs??? Brady IS absolutely up there.....you cant say that.....so is Montana not on that list either?? Factor of Walsh's system along with having Rice to throw to...never threw for 4000 yds and only 30 tds once....I'm not saying Brady is the best but you cant factor him out of the convo....Montana went to KC and did NOTHING and is still considered one of the top qbs of all time....Montana had the best team of the 80's....Brady had horrible receivers that he turned into superstars..Anyways Rodgers will be a great hall of famer qb as long as he stays consistent over the next 6-10 years

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Kosmo Kards Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,471	I think he has a shot at top 5 all time. Payton and Favre only have one SB ring. Marnio has zero. One more SB would be nice. __________________ L Ron's Chosen Disciple!!!

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DieselPack1996 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,729 XxDiesel1xx	I think you guys are strongly under estimating his stats. His first couple of years are a set back to his HOF status as he had some stats but didn't really play. His "BAD" year had him ending with a 93.8 passer rating not bad by any means. We just have come to know Rodgers and someone to make every play so when he only makes some or the team isn't the highest scoreing team in the league any more it appears he is doing worse than he is. If and a strong IF he continues to play at the rate he is now for another 6 years you could make an argument that he is the most Accurate passer ever but thats about all I see in terms of HOF stand out stats he only has 21,000 yards after 6 seasons yikes wouldnt even make 50,000 in 12 seasons its weird because he seems so much better than Brett Favre yet his Yard stats are so much worse __________________ PC 1996 Packers superbowl starting roaster RC AUTO's!! SUPER COLLECTING GREEN BAYS GREATEST RUNNING BACK AHMAN GREEN Member Hall of Fame Man in the Mirror Brando19 MarshallCutler6 Nephinfan

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freethrowtommy Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 31,686 freethrowtommy	To those who argue "greatness" is based on Super Bowl rings... Where do you put Marino? How about Peyton Manning with only 1 ring? __________________ Jordy Nelson PC: http://tinyurl.com/nelson87 Aaron Rodgers PC: http://tinyurl.com/rodgers12 And the Lord said unto John, "come forth and ye shall receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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ChicoCheese Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chico, Ca. Posts: 5,318	I think Aaron will make the Top 5 list, and here is why: 1) He will retire with the highest QB rating of all time. To those who say that it doesn't matter, I say that it does. That # is a representation of HOW WELL the QB passes. 2) He will retire with possibly the lowest INT% ever. 3) He will retire with AT LEAST 2 championships. Those are the 3 things that I feel comfortable guaranteeing. He maybe not retire with 500+ TD passes, but he will be one of the most reliable, effective, and smart QBs to ever play the game. I can half-way understand the Brady argument...but the whole spygate thing really spoils me on him. Also, since spygate broke they have yet to win a championship. Pretty strange... I think the top 5, in no particular order, will include Favre, Montana, Brady (not by my vote...) , Elway, and Rodgers (again, when it is all said and done, and this point I would say no.) __________________ Green Bay Packers fan since 1994. Always looking for Aaron Rodgers,Eddie Lacy, Clay Matthews, Jordy Nelson, and Favre (Packers only.)