How do you do eBay feedback?? - Page 6

callou2131 · 11-24-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscardmania

It costs $1.69 with delivery confirmation to ship a graded card in a bubble mailer. If you charge more than $2.00 for the cost of shipping & handling you're over charging.

I don't sell cards very often, so I don't buy bubble mailers in bulk. I get them at target or Walmart and they cost me almost .50 each. Add in tape, printer ink, toploaders, sleeves etc. And I would lose money shipping at $2.00. It is like that for a lot of small time sellers. For those that ship a lot and buy mailers etc in bulk, you are correct. Also eBay takes what 10% of that shipping cost. It costs me roughly $2.29 to ship a card, then take out the eBay fees. I charge $2.50 and don't make a penny on it.

chilly55 · 11-24-2013, 07:32 AM

It costs $1.69 with delivery confirmation to ship a graded card in a bubble mailer. If you charge more than $2.00 for the cost of shipping & handling you're over charging.

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Originally Posted by Davesportscards

So you're saying that sellers should eat the cost of:

Bubble Mailers
Top Loaders
Ink Cartridges
Team Bags
Printer Paper
Tape for applying shipping labels

This just shows you how incompetent these young buyers are. They have no clue how to run a business. Postage is only part of the shipping equation. In addition to what Davessportscards stated, what happens if you actually bought from someone on Feebay that was an actual business? Do ya think they might have to pay the help to prepare and package up your winnings? That costs money too. Not everyone you buy from on Feebay is sitting behind a computer at home selling cards.

You young buyers have no clue as each seller has a different scenario that could cause them to charge different shipping charges. Some seller sitting at home could afford to ship you the card for $2.00. A business shipping you the exact same card would definitely need to charge more shipping as they have to factor in the help needed to do so. How do you think some sellers are able to sell 100's of items each day? They have hired help to help them.

All of you young'uns really need to go take a business class to understand why everyone doesn't charge $1.69 to ship your cards.

Moyni · 11-24-2013, 08:38 AM

Ok. I am going to say this as sincerely as possible. I really wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone or turn this into what it has become.

I am really a pretty nice guy and I love this hobby. I have been collecting since 1981 and I really enjoy being a part of this forum.

I totally understand how much it costs to mail an item. I honestly did not know (because I rarely sell anything) before this thread that anything less than 5 stars risked getting a seller kicked off eBay. I really don't want that.

I guess I am just cheap and every dollar I can save in shipping is another dollar I can use towards a card that I want.

I genuinely apologize to anyone her whom I might have offended or pissed off.

jlzinck · 11-24-2013, 08:46 AM

This whole thread shows how out of touch Ebay and their policies are.
The fact that Level 3 sex offenders have more rights that sellers is laughable.

Sellers are FORCED to lower their shipping prices to accommodate these generation cupcake, participation ribbon collecting, windowlicking buyers.

If you agree to pay $3.50 for shipping and it comes to you in a PWE and it is the card you ordered and in the condition stated and you have an issue with it then you should look in the mirror. Yes this is an extreme but it is the correct way to view this situation.

And no OP this post is not directed to you but other "buyers" in this thread.

preakness · 11-24-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Moyni

I actually left two feedbacks tonight for items received today. I am happy to report that I left all 5s for both sellers even though one charged $1 for shipping and the other charged $2.95.

I am still really confused why one seller that charged me $2.95 deserves the same rating as the one who only charged me $1.00???

Oh well, I guess it will just have to remain one of those mysteries of life. But I am happy to report that this board has successfully changed one man's behavior. Congrats!!

Cannot ding $2.95 because its not as good as deal as $1 person.
Did the 2.95 guy list his shipping price in auction? Did you agree to it? Is there a possibility the 2.95 still possibly "lost" some money via the shipping and handling part? (Yes, 2.07 plus .90 plus cost for bubble mailer plus cost for słeeve, team bag, top loader)
So how can you possibly consider $2.95 as anything else but a 5.
5 does not mean spectacular or above and beyond. Keep in mind 4.8 can be cause for eBay to get rid of seller.

preakness · 11-24-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Moyni

Yes, which is fine with me on the cheaper cards. And yes on the bubble mailer.

What about the tracking that eBay requires power sellers to include on shipping?
You want shipping to be as cheap as possibly and you admit you cool with PWE but eBay and paypal have expectations and that .90 tracking is part of it

Moyni · 11-24-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by preakness

Cannot ding $2.95 because its bit as good as deal as $1 person.
Did the 2.95 guy list his shipping price in auction? Did you agree to it? Is there a possibility the 2.95 still possibly "lost" some money via the shipping and handling part? (Yes, 2.07 plus .90 plus cost for bubble mailer plus cost for słeeve, team bag, top loader)
So how can you possibly consider $2.95 as anything else but a 5.
5 does not mean spectacular or above and beyond. Kind in mind 4.8 can be cause for eBay to get rid of seller.

YES. I GET IT!!!

bmlocal175 · 11-24-2013, 10:16 AM

I charged $2.99 for shipping.

$1.69 w/free DC and $.18 supplies(penny sleeve,top loader,team bag,invoice,bubble envelope,shipping label) I buy all in bulk by the thousands.

I got dinged by one person who left 1 or 2 stars.

After giving it a thought I switched to free shipping to avoid this and raised all my prices by $3. It has worked out great. If a person buys more than one item from me now, you profit an additional $3 per item because the cards are going in the same package. Win,Win.

HadWayTooMuch · 11-24-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moyni

I actually left two feedbacks tonight for items received today. I am happy to report that I left all 5s for both sellers even though one charged $1 for shipping and the other charged $2.95.

I am still really confused why one seller that charged me $2.95 deserves the same rating as the one who only charged me $1.00???

Oh well, I guess it will just have to remain one of those mysteries of life. But I am happy to report that this board has successfully changed one man's behavior. Congrats!!

When you go to the grocery store, does every grocery store charge the same amount of money for every item? How about card shops?

Are you paying the same $3 online when you buy a card, but one guy charges $1 and one guy charges $2.95?

Probably not. At the end of the day, your total purchase price is probably similar or you're just a bad buyer.

HadWayTooMuch · 11-24-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by youseekyoda421

Especially in light of the content of this thread, why don't all sellers offer free shipping and factor the shipping cost into the starting bid/BIN price? Automatic 5-star ratings! I suppose that the exception to always offering free shipping is selling common cards (e.g. anything less than a dollar) and offering a combined shipping discount. But anything else... why take the risk if you're that worried about your DSR?

Because people perceive a card for $2 plus $2.95 shipping cheaper than a card that is $4.95 dlvd. I'm not saying it makes sense, but it's real.

HadWayTooMuch · 11-24-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bmlocal175

I charged $2.99 for shipping.

$1.69 w/free DC and $.18 supplies(penny sleeve,top loader,team bag,invoice,bubble envelope,shipping label) I buy all in bulk by the thousands.

I got dinged by one person who left 1 or 2 stars.

After giving it a thought I switched to free shipping to avoid this and raised all my prices by $3. It has worked out great. If a person buys more than one item from me now, you profit an additional $3 per item because the cards are going in the same package. Win,Win.

This is a great point. But I've noticed fewer multiple buyers on my $2.99 items then on my $.99 items for the exact reason you stated.

I mix in about 50-50 free shipping and $2.95 shipping. I know if I was a buyer, I'd rather pay $2.95 for 10 $.99 items than $3 each for those items.

chezball · 11-24-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Moyni

Ok. I am going to say this as sincerely as possible. I really wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone or turn this into what it has become.

I am really a pretty nice guy and I love this hobby. I have been collecting since 1981 and I really enjoy being a part of this forum.

I totally understand how much it costs to mail an item. I honestly did not know (because I rarely sell anything) before this thread that anything less than 5 stars risked getting a seller kicked off eBay. I really don't want that.

I guess I am just cheap and every dollar I can save in shipping is another dollar I can use towards a card that I want.

I genuinely apologize to anyone her whom I might have offended or pissed off.

Now it seems like you get it,but you are still blocked.I suggest you don't sell anything for awhile.THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF 1'S IN YOUR FUTURE.

bigzig · 11-24-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

What about the tracking that eBay requires power sellers to include on shipping?
You want shipping to be as cheap as possibly and you admit you cool with PWE but eBay and paypal have expectations and that .90 tracking is part of it

Again...you choose to pay the extra $.90. It's not the buyers fault you don't print for $1.69.

bigzig · 11-24-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Now it seems like you get it,but you are still blocked.I suggest you don't anything for awhile.THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF 1'S IN YOUR FUTURE.

Ebay provides ways to get an automatic 5 stars in 3 of the 4 categories. Not to mention you can get suspended for malicious bidding.

Hf32jkm5 · 11-24-2013, 12:50 PM

The item price and the shipping cost are known before purchase. You should let the seller know what you think of their charges by either buying or not buying their item.

The shipping speed and arrival condition are not known at the time of purchase and therefore need to be evaluated with the DSR rating afterward.

Communication is an oddball as most transactions don't require any.

sportscardmania · 11-24-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hf32jkm5

The item price and the shipping cost are known before purchase. You should let the seller know what you think of their charges by either buying or not buying their item.

The shipping speed and arrival condition are not known at the time of purchase and therefore need to be evaluated with the DSR rating afterward.

Communication is an oddball as most transactions don't require any.

By that logic ebay shouldn't even ask for evaluation of the s&h charge; but ebay does.

Moyni · 11-24-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Now it seems like you get it,but you are still blocked.I suggest you don't sell anything for awhile.THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF 1'S IN YOUR FUTURE.

No worries. None of the whopping three items you have for sale have any interest to me.

Hf32jkm5 · 11-24-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardmania

By that logic ebay shouldn't even ask for evaluation of the s&h charge; but ebay does.

And they are wrong for doing so. Sometimes companies who have near monopoly status can get away with questionable policies. Sometimes.... more like most of the time.

chezball · 11-24-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Moyni

No worries. None of the whopping three items you have for sale have any interest to me.

First off,sellers can't leave feedback,second I was talking about you selling items.
You still don't understand ebay.

Jopeal · 11-24-2013, 05:17 PM

Can't believe this thread is going on 7 pages.
I made the first response and thought it'd be the end of the discussion.
Fascinating.

gamboooler · 11-24-2013, 06:32 PM

If the shipping charge is listed up front, and the seller sends it in the manner described in the listing, you are a dullard if you leave anything but 5 stars for shipping charges.

Moyni · 11-24-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

First off,sellers can't leave feedback,second I was talking about you selling items.
You still don't understand ebay.

You are so right. I am so glad you are here to keep me straight. I bow to your superiority and expertise.

MetDude · 11-25-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jlzinck

If you agree to pay $3.50 for shipping and it comes to you in a PWE and it is the card you ordered and in the condition stated and you have an issue with it then you should look in the mirror. Yes this is an extreme but it is the correct way to view this situation.

No its not the correct way.

The correct way would include looking to see how the seller
stated the item was going to be shipped before deciding what to do.

A guy charged me 5.95 (?) shipping like 6 months back,
for what I seem to think was all of a 30 dollar card that I happened to really want.
The stated delivery method was usps priority mail with 1 day handling time.
I wasnt thrilled about that price(and havent sent priority in forever so dont even know approx cost) but figured meh what the heck I'll get the item really quickly.

It showed up in a pwe 10 days later with a postmark 5 days after purchase.

ding ding ding for this winner.
:turkey:

EWG3 · 11-25-2013, 11:26 AM

If you don't like the shipping costs, don't buy the item. It's as simple as that.

I just got dinged with a neutral rating by someone who was mad that I opened a non-paying claim after sending them an invoice and a reminder and them still not paying. They finally responded to me once the case was open but still took multiple days to pay beyond that. I'm not sure what to do as this has never happened before, but do I use the report the buyer feature?

Also if anyone wants to block this person their screen name is viks9911

calculusdork · 11-25-2013, 12:12 PM

This topic is like a Blowout menstruation cycle ... it shows up once a month and is always a mess.

11-24-2013, 08:38 AM	#128
Moyni Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 1,779 gonzaleznut	Ok. I am going to say this as sincerely as possible. I really wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone or turn this into what it has become. I am really a pretty nice guy and I love this hobby. I have been collecting since 1981 and I really enjoy being a part of this forum. I totally understand how much it costs to mail an item. I honestly did not know (because I rarely sell anything) before this thread that anything less than 5 stars risked getting a seller kicked off eBay. I really don't want that. I guess I am just cheap and every dollar I can save in shipping is another dollar I can use towards a card that I want. I genuinely apologize to anyone her whom I might have offended or pissed off. __________________ Collector of HOFer Autos (I have 255 different and almost 3,000 total) and HOFer Game used cards. You Tube Channel: Baseball Collector

11-24-2013, 08:46 AM	#129
jlzinck Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 35,994 jlzinck jl_zinck	This whole thread shows how out of touch Ebay and their policies are. The fact that Level 3 sex offenders have more rights that sellers is laughable. Sellers are FORCED to lower their shipping prices to accommodate these generation cupcake, participation ribbon collecting, windowlicking buyers. If you agree to pay $3.50 for shipping and it comes to you in a PWE and it is the card you ordered and in the condition stated and you have an issue with it then you should look in the mirror. Yes this is an extreme but it is the correct way to view this situation. And no OP this post is not directed to you but other "buyers" in this thread. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/jonzinck

11-24-2013, 10:16 AM	#133
bmlocal175 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 527 homefieldadvantage_sportscards	I charged $2.99 for shipping. $1.69 w/free DC and $.18 supplies(penny sleeve,top loader,team bag,invoice,bubble envelope,shipping label) I buy all in bulk by the thousands. I got dinged by one person who left 1 or 2 stars. After giving it a thought I switched to free shipping to avoid this and raised all my prices by $3. It has worked out great. If a person buys more than one item from me now, you profit an additional $3 per item because the cards are going in the same package. Win,Win.

11-24-2013, 12:50 PM	#140
Hf32jkm5 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 167	The item price and the shipping cost are known before purchase. You should let the seller know what you think of their charges by either buying or not buying their item. The shipping speed and arrival condition are not known at the time of purchase and therefore need to be evaluated with the DSR rating afterward. Communication is an oddball as most transactions don't require any.

11-24-2013, 05:17 PM	#145
Jopeal Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: RI Posts: 8,153 dr.jopeal	Can't believe this thread is going on 7 pages. I made the first response and thought it'd be the end of the discussion. Fascinating.

11-24-2013, 06:32 PM	#146
gamboooler Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8,063 gamboooler gamboooler	If the shipping charge is listed up front, and the seller sends it in the manner described in the listing, you are a dullard if you leave anything but 5 stars for shipping charges.

11-25-2013, 11:26 AM	#149
EWG3 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 282 squanto736c2l	If you don't like the shipping costs, don't buy the item. It's as simple as that. I just got dinged with a neutral rating by someone who was mad that I opened a non-paying claim after sending them an invoice and a reminder and them still not paying. They finally responded to me once the case was open but still took multiple days to pay beyond that. I'm not sure what to do as this has never happened before, but do I use the report the buyer feature? Also if anyone wants to block this person their screen name is viks9911

11-25-2013, 12:12 PM	#150
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	This topic is like a Blowout menstruation cycle ... it shows up once a month and is always a mess.