2013 contenders variations print runs?

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-07-2014, 07:41 PM

Anyone have any insight on when and if we will get the variations numbers? Crazy to me that they haven't released them yet. Yes, we got the base sp and ssp numbers but why not the rest? I heard a rumor (yes a rumor!) that they lost them??? I doubt that's true but they devalued their own product!!

Any thoughts?

packerfan4200 · 05-07-2014, 07:44 PM

My thoughts are...."Oh no, now panini is ruining the last remaining old Donruss brand that I actually still like".

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 06:11 AM

It's really sad isn't it? To be 100% honest, I'm not sure why they are doing this? Their sale value has completely plummeted which is a shame because most of us love contenders! From a business stand point, it doesn't really make sense

FanboyOfNone · 05-08-2014, 06:37 AM

No idea why they're withholding them.

I opened my first box of Contenders ever a few weeks ago, and I hit a Joseph Randle RPA. All I know is that it's "SSP'd to 50 or less." It is somewhat frustrating not knowing the print run.

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 08:21 AM

its terrible...I have a really nice Jamie Collins variation auto BGS slabbed, that they say is "SSP", /50 or less...They are tough to pull and I think its 30 or less, but how can we even begin to speculate. I want to sell the damn card but I don't want to pigeon hole myself before the numbers come out....its just a shame because this year, they LOADED the product! hits came big and pretty often but now, its lost all of its special feel

Skootown · 05-08-2014, 09:45 AM

I can understand waiting a few weeks to drum up the hype and drive business, but the freaking 2014 draft is tonight.

I'm pretty new to all this Contenders SP stuff, but it seems pretty darn stupid to me. I imagine at this point they are hurting sales more than helping.

cadillac540 · 05-08-2014, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FanboyOfNone

No idea why they're withholding them.

I opened my first box of Contenders ever a few weeks ago, and I hit a Joseph Randle RPA. All I know is that it's "SSP'd to 50 or less." It is somewhat frustrating not knowing the print run.

You hit a RPA out of Contenders?

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 09:57 AM

It's just all dumb to me...you would think that because 2013 contenders is not as strong as 2012 (with luck, griffin and wilson) they would get the numbers out so people would chase them!! now theyre products has dropped in price tremendously...when released it was fetching around $135 a box, not its $110..thats a ridiculous drop

The Card Album · 05-08-2014, 10:53 AM

At least they have the general group numbers :

Short Story: Panini America Begins Leaking 2013 Contenders Football SP Quantities | The Official Panini America Blog

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 04:39 PM

Unfortunately, those numbers are misleading and not what contenders collectors want to see. For instance, stating a card is 50 or less can mean it's actually /50 or maybe its /25...the later of those two numbers makes it MUCH more valuable...Just telling us if they are SP or SSP is not good enough..........

FanboyOfNone · 05-08-2014, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadillac540

You hit a RPA out of Contenders?

I mean I hit an auto from the Rookie Premiere subset.

Pesky acronyms!

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 08:36 PM

It's just sad to me that 2014 bowman BASEBALL release beats the print number release of a 2013 football product!!

Clarka3 · 05-08-2014, 09:19 PM

they don't know how many of each they printed...

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-08-2014, 09:29 PM

Are you saying this front fact or just your thoughts?? FYI, I'm not disagreeing with you at all

MW Connection · 05-09-2014, 12:19 AM

anyone know how many copies of Michael Rivera variation?

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-09-2014, 08:42 AM

Mychal Rivera variation is an "SSP" which means its /50 or less.....but this just proves this thread even more....wouldnt you LOVE to know if its out of /50 or maybe 35? geez maybe you're lucky enough to have on /25! which of course, makes the card worth exponentially more....

chipmaster · 05-09-2014, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clarka3

they don't know how many of each they printed...

No truer words have been spoken IMO

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-09-2014, 09:56 AM

I agree, its just crazy to me....and really sad

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-09-2014, 06:21 PM

Think we will ever get them??

MeetJSquared · 05-09-2014, 06:28 PM

they only released them for the base rookie tickets; and you would've thought the variations would soon follow.

i gave up on waiting.

royprice31 · 05-09-2014, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Simmsrenegade61

Think we will ever get them??

Nope!! It doesn't matter if they did because they killed this product this year by doing this crap. No one cares about 2013 contenders anymore!! F.U. Panini!!!!!!

dustyb1987 · 05-09-2014, 09:27 PM

ive had this thing since the product came out. now it just sits on my desk wondering what the print run is Sighhhhh

Simmsrenegade61 · 05-09-2014, 09:34 PM

Man, that's a sick card! I have one I've been sitting on too. Come onnnnn Panini!

05-07-2014, 07:41 PM	#1
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	2013 contenders variations print runs? Anyone have any insight on when and if we will get the variations numbers? Crazy to me that they haven't released them yet. Yes, we got the base sp and ssp numbers but why not the rest? I heard a rumor (yes a rumor!) that they lost them??? I doubt that's true but they devalued their own product!! Any thoughts?

05-08-2014, 06:37 AM	#4
FanboyOfNone Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: California Posts: 2,342 Eqdealerguy2004	No idea why they're withholding them. I opened my first box of Contenders ever a few weeks ago, and I hit a Joseph Randle RPA. All I know is that it's "SSP'd to 50 or less." It is somewhat frustrating not knowing the print run. __________________ Looking for below-eBay RC autos from: Terrance Williams, Stedman Bailey, DeAndre Hopkins, Joe Flacco, Phillip Rivers, Mike Glennon. Maybe others at the right price. No super low-end please.

05-08-2014, 09:45 AM	#6
Skootown Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,806 skootown	I can understand waiting a few weeks to drum up the hype and drive business, but the freaking 2014 draft is tonight. I'm pretty new to all this Contenders SP stuff, but it seems pretty darn stupid to me. I imagine at this point they are hurting sales more than helping. __________________ Allen Robinson Collector Also collecting Carson Wentz and Philadelphia Eagles, Penn State Nittany Lions, and Jameis Winston RCs

05-08-2014, 09:19 PM	#13
Clarka3 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 17,877 Clarka3 Clarka3	they don't know how many of each they printed... __________________ Luke Kuechly Collector pending: w8lifter28 (custom), Don't ask me how much I want to offer. Come with a price in mind. If I don't want it or think it's worth that, I will let you know.

05-09-2014, 06:28 PM	#20
MeetJSquared Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,336	they only released them for the base rookie tickets; and you would've thought the variations would soon follow. i gave up on waiting. __________________ Looking for Manny Machado 2022 & 2023 Definitive 1/1s

05-07-2014, 07:44 PM	#2
packerfan4200 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Titletown USA Posts: 4,764 packerfan4200 packerfan4200	My thoughts are...."Oh no, now panini is ruining the last remaining old Donruss brand that I actually still like".

05-08-2014, 06:11 AM	#3
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	It's really sad isn't it? To be 100% honest, I'm not sure why they are doing this? Their sale value has completely plummeted which is a shame because most of us love contenders! From a business stand point, it doesn't really make sense

05-08-2014, 08:21 AM	#5
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	its terrible...I have a really nice Jamie Collins variation auto BGS slabbed, that they say is "SSP", /50 or less...They are tough to pull and I think its 30 or less, but how can we even begin to speculate. I want to sell the damn card but I don't want to pigeon hole myself before the numbers come out....its just a shame because this year, they LOADED the product! hits came big and pretty often but now, its lost all of its special feel

05-08-2014, 09:57 AM	#8
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	It's just all dumb to me...you would think that because 2013 contenders is not as strong as 2012 (with luck, griffin and wilson) they would get the numbers out so people would chase them!! now theyre products has dropped in price tremendously...when released it was fetching around $135 a box, not its $110..thats a ridiculous drop

05-08-2014, 10:53 AM	#9
The Card Album Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,561	At least they have the general group numbers : Short Story: Panini America Begins Leaking 2013 Contenders Football SP Quantities \| The Official Panini America Blog

05-08-2014, 04:39 PM	#10
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	Unfortunately, those numbers are misleading and not what contenders collectors want to see. For instance, stating a card is 50 or less can mean it's actually /50 or maybe its /25...the later of those two numbers makes it MUCH more valuable...Just telling us if they are SP or SSP is not good enough..........

05-08-2014, 08:36 PM	#12
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	It's just sad to me that 2014 bowman BASEBALL release beats the print number release of a 2013 football product!!

05-08-2014, 09:29 PM	#14
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	Are you saying this front fact or just your thoughts?? FYI, I'm not disagreeing with you at all

05-09-2014, 12:19 AM	#15
MW Connection Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,950	anyone know how many copies of Michael Rivera variation?

05-09-2014, 08:42 AM	#16
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	Mychal Rivera variation is an "SSP" which means its /50 or less.....but this just proves this thread even more....wouldnt you LOVE to know if its out of /50 or maybe 35? geez maybe you're lucky enough to have on /25! which of course, makes the card worth exponentially more....

05-09-2014, 09:56 AM	#18
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	I agree, its just crazy to me....and really sad

05-09-2014, 06:21 PM	#19
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	Think we will ever get them??

05-09-2014, 09:27 PM	#22
dustyb1987 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Amish Mafia Area Lancaster PA Posts: 8,415	ive had this thing since the product came out. now it just sits on my desk wondering what the print run is Sighhhhh

05-09-2014, 09:34 PM	#23
Simmsrenegade61 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Posts: 357 simmsrenegade61	Man, that's a sick card! I have one I've been sitting on too. Come onnnnn Panini!