Are all high end hobby boxes big on retired players?

[Zeusophobia]

I opened my first high end hobby box today, and both signatures were retired guys. Retired guys aren't good for my collecting strategy. Is this a common thing, or did I just get a weird box?

[Rabie1]

What product did u open. who r the players u got. show scans of what u got. welcome to BO.

[rudyjustinfarrell]

It is not uncommon. I've seen a few cases where half the boxes had the rookies, half the boxes were more Veteran heavy. See any NT case break.

[Zeusophobia]

Originally Posted by Rabie1

What product did u open. who r the players u got. show scans of what u got. welcome to BO.

I don't have a scanner, but I have a /25 John Stockton, and a /99 Rex Chapman. It was from an Intrigue.

They're good cards, I just would rather have someone who still plays.

I could take pictures of them if you want. Do people like looking at pictures of good cards here? I have a really good one I'd like to show off.

[Gbulldogs1010]

Originally Posted by Zeusophobia

I don't have a scanner, but I have a /25 John Stockton, and a /99 Rex Chapman. It was from an Intrigue.

They're good cards, I just would rather have someone who still plays.

I could take pictures of them if you want. Do people like looking at pictures of good cards here? I have a really good one I'd like to show off.

Honestly from intrigue I would be very happy with a Stockton auto /25. Is it a patch auto too?

[Hallco]

Panini LOVES to put retired players in just about everything they release(even in the base sets! ) I usually offer free/just pay shipping on retired players lots on base and inserts when I get them in packs and they get claimed in just a few minutes most of the time so someone is collecting them!

[Dielon]

im not sure what your collecting strategy is, but for the price that you can sell that Stockton and chapman you can buy a bunch of low end rookies, or a couple nice ones probably. so...I would rather do that than pull a 5 dollar rookie scrub

[Dielon]

and boxes these days I would say are more rookie heavy. The higher end usually tries to spread it out between rookies and vets because people want veteran/legend hits in their products.

[pingbling23]

intrigue isnt really considered high end, more like mid end now days.

[Zeusophobia]

Originally Posted by Hallco

Panini LOVES to put retired players in just about everything they release(even in the base sets! ) I usually offer free/just pay shipping on retired players lots on base and inserts when I get them in packs and they get claimed in just a few minutes most of the time so someone is collecting them!

So you throw a bunch of retired players in a lot and then a lot of inserts?

Would I throw like 3 equal valued retired guys in a set and sell for the combined value and do the same with like 20 inserts or 20 base set?

I'm interested in getting rid of some of the cards I don't need and buying rookies.

[PackAttack419]

I wish. But the hobby sucks and panini sucks.

[NickM]

They very often are, because if you want desirable autos and a large checklist, you need a lot of retired players.

[carrollm09]

I agree, it gets old. It wouldn't be as bad if the Vets were all major stars, but are there really 99 people looking for Rex Chapman?

Vets are a way for Panini to further water down products while seemingly offering more 'hits' It's just that those extra 'hits' are further watered down. Just look at 2013-14 Intrigue Slam Ink:
#1 Vincer Carter /15
#2 Blake Griffin /25
#3 Kobe Bryant /99
#4 Kevin Durant /49
#5 Anthony Davis /25
#6 Terrence Ross /49
#7 Kenneth Faried /25
#8 DeMarcus Cousins /15
...
#36 Kenny Walker /199
#37 Darrell Griffith /199
#38 Dee Brown /199
#39 Julius Erving /25
#40 Larry Nance /199

Do we see a problem?

Some people are really into Vets and it's cool to pull a piece of basketball history every once in awhile, but in sets like these the lower-end Vets are so disproportionately common that it starts becoming difficult to pull active players.