What's the big deal with National Treasures???

[nissandriver77]

Originally Posted by ducc

1500 NT = Logoman and rpa's
2500 Immaculate = Patches and logoman
2500 Flawless = Patches and Diamonds.

Which would you invest in?

None , I Invest In property not cardboard .

But I might collect some singles from these products :laugh:

[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by blackmarkers

from a collectors point of view.. i like NT

if terms of value its probably just as bad as any other box break... but there are some big time hits

i am still going to assume it offers better value than flawless this year

Exactly. Flawless is gonna be a baaaaaad but this yr. It's not new anymore and price point is insane. Most boxes are 40-60% returns and nt is no different, it's a gamble but when u hit u hit

[plasticmoz]

I love Flawless but given how close it is going to be to NT and Immaculate, coupled with the poor Rookie Class and increase in price it's going to be an easy pass this year for me.

Looking forward to Alex Len Diamond Base in every case.

[vitin01]

Would this be a better product is ALL the Rookies of that year were potential ALL-STARS? Maybe these brats need to start working a little harder so we can all have valuable cards.

[ducc]

Originally Posted by nissandriver77

None , I Invest In property not cardboard .

But I might collect some singles from these products :laugh:

NO stocks? lol

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

Exactly. Flawless is gonna be a baaaaaad but this yr. It's not new anymore and price point is insane. Most boxes are 40-60% returns and nt is no different, it's a gamble but when u hit u hit

Yeah, last year guaranteed case hits in flawless were:

Kobe
Durant
Blake
AD
Kyrie

This year -

Yet another 200+ Kobe on the market
Yet another 200+ Durant on the market
Yet another 200+ Blake on the market
MCW -yikes
Oladipo -yikes

Better value this year? NO WAY.

[Fisherman44]

I agree there are a ton of sticker autos and they include random veteran/retired players in a premium product?? All the redemptions just add insult to injury.

Nobody should have to pay $500 a box just to hit a redemption of a trash player with a possible sticker auto. Talk about salt in the open wound....

In a product like this no auto should sell for less than $30-$40 and no sticker autos.

Multiple logomen autos (Colossal + reg logoman sigs) not #/1????

When there is no chase to get the "big hit" and it sells for less than 1 box then what's the point of breaking it??

People stop buying it please haha. Then we can at least semi-enjoy breaking it for a lot cheaper.

[The Fluffy]

If you think about it spending high amounts of money for a guys face on cardboard with they're signature sounds pretty ridiculous. Or spending money on a sweaty shirt they wore during a game. Lol just think about it.

[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yeah, last year guaranteed case hits in flawless were:

Kobe
Durant
Blake
AD
Kyrie

This year -

Yet another 200+ Kobe on the market
Yet another 200+ Durant on the market
Yet another 200+ Blake on the market
MCW -yikes
Oladipo -yikes

Better value this year? NO WAY.

what is the yikes for with MCW and VO?

[benz35]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yeah, last year guaranteed case hits in flawless were:

Kobe
Durant
Blake
AD
Kyrie

This year -

Yet another 200+ Kobe on the market
Yet another 200+ Durant on the market
Yet another 200+ Blake on the market
MCW -yikes
Oladipo -yikes

Better value this year? NO WAY.

there is
-AI
-Melo
-Manu
-CWebb

[stevenhsu]

Seriously, I never thought

Griffin
Melo

can be case hit, If I opened a case of Flawless and gets them two, I will be tears over my face..lol

Originally Posted by benz35

there is
-AI
-Melo
-Manu
-CWebb

[IronMonkey415]

The Spurs was RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME... it was between them or the Thunder and I went with the Thunder.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by stevenhsu

Seriously, I never thought

Griffin
Melo

can be case hit, If I opened a case of Flawless and gets them two, I will be tears over my face..lol

There didn't really seem to be "case-hits" as such in last year's release, instead you just seemed to get a heap of really solid hits per box.

E.g. You might get a Griffin and Melo auto in your box as well as a nice MCW and Penny or Pippen etc.

[stevenhsu]

That sounds more acceptable.

Just that I really wonder if we're able to make the money back by buying boxes.
Despite the daimonds base, the highest valued card may be the greats dual patch auto, but even a Kobe can only be sold around 1500.

Originally Posted by jj2

There didn't really seem to be "case-hits" as such in last year's release, instead you just seemed to get a heap of really solid hits per box.

E.g. You might get a Griffin and Melo auto in your box as well as a nice MCW and Penny or Pippen etc.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

what is the yikes for with MCW and VO?

Would you rather have AD and Kyrie or MCW and VO?

[Fisherman44]

Originally Posted by The Fluffy

If you think about it spending high amounts of money for a guys face on cardboard with they're signature sounds pretty ridiculous. Or spending money on a sweaty shirt they wore during a game. Lol just think about it.

If that's all this hobby is to you then why are you here?

[rauchand]

I'm surprised at how low some of these RPAs are selling. I just watched a KCP gold /25 sell for $110. Silhouettes of him were going for close to $200 around release.