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[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by Gator993

I'm really late to this discussion but I'm interested in bankroll management strategy.

I started the year on the cheap. $50 in both FD and DK. My goal (much more like dream was to run it up to 10k).

I started the season playing $10 in cash games (50/50) on each site and 2 $2 gpp on both sites. Quickly was obvious that unless I got really lucky I wasn't going to come close to my goal. Got lucky in week 3 and had two top 25 finishes in the $2 gpp for a total of $250. I started to press and put an entry into the $25 big money gpps. But again realized that one entry takes extreme luck to cash and my week 3 results was probably my luck for season.

So this week I went to playing $50 in cash games and $25 in gpps but put 25 different $1 lineups into the same FD gpp. This appears to be much more sound strategy though top prize is only 4k and not a million.

I have a long shot lineup with Big Ben, foster and brown sitting on 71 points but for the most part i don't expect any big pay days but definitely will come out ahead.

The most painful was a lineup I had with dez and romo that the TD reversal to the 1 footling wiped out 10 points that would of put me over 165 points and 6th overall going into tonight. Instead it will struggle to finish top 50 or so. Still I good outing but ouch how painful 1 yard is.

Does anyone else use a strategy like this? Would love feedback. I also keep track of my stats and roi. The one thing I started this week was to see what percentage of lineups I had certain players in to see if it matched up with my rankings.

A site I've subscribed to has a 3-tiered suggestion for bankroll management. I just recently started following it, but that was a week ago and my awful week hasn't seen much success with that option.
I like the idea of spreading out the GPP entries across more lineups. I've had success with that approach early on.

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I don't think your assessment is off or unfair. They're both underpriced right now. My thinking is more on the line that DEN-SD passing attacks trade punches and the RB's end up forgotten. Either way, Hillman will be in my lineup as the cheapest option. I think we both believe Bell is the least valuable of the 4 RB's.

Looks like we differ really only in how good Foster will be tonight, with me thinking he's worth the price tag. Although, I'm guessing you value Manning's price tag more than I do.

Either way, I wish you luck. Looks like we can find common ground on making money...or at least trying to anyways

Likewise man, I know we have had our difficulties in the past but that shouldn't stop us from trying to make $$$ right?

The idea of going with them is outside the box usually I like to either fade or limit my exposure to these Thursday night games. This week I'm going with a formula and leaving my gut out of it.

Saw someone else talk about mistakes this weekend. My biggest one was not going All In with Golden Tate. I originally went All In with him and then heard about the Marshall plan with him playing his former team and switched them out. Stupid stupid move on my part. Plan now that unless injuries occur that when I do my DD that I'm sticking with the plan do or die. No more second guessing. No more late swaps. If I want to do that I'm going to enter into a new contest just to do it.

With that said I did go All In this weekend with Bell. When I play these games I'm hitting over 10 contests per weekend. Figure that's the best way to get the variance out of it. More exposure then 75% of my teams means ALL IN for me. In my 12 lineups this weekend I have every single team playing Le'veon Bell tonight. 12/12 lineups are playing Bell.

I think you read me wrong with my last post. I targeted Thursday starting games with those two RB's and was already onto the next weeks lineups. I currently have only one game between Monday-Thursday and the lineup includes Bell there too.

Here's why I went ALL IN with him tonight

1. Steelers 15-0 in MNF games in the last 15 tries.

2. Steelers at home

3. Texans weak against the rusher, good matchup

4. Bell has 100 yards from scrimmage in every game this year he's played

5. His involvement in the passing game is a plus for DK with full ppr point

6. His price was extremely attractive. $6,600 for him this week. It's an automatic when he is that low. His one fault is that he has only scored 1 TD this year. He has the 10th highest Red Zone team involvement for any RB in the league. I bet that he hits pay dirt tonight.

Bell was an ALL IN move for me this week. Some of my teams are just outside the money right now. A good game with Bell and I will cash in a bunch of them.

Last night I put this lineup together in a 50 man tournement where I am currently in 5th place for a seat in the 2.2 million dollar tournament. I played for $2. I have 3 Steelers going tonight and currently the most players playing tonight out of teams 1-4.

QB Peyton Manning 31.62 lock
RB Le'Veon Bell 0 swap out
RB Ronnie Hillman 26.3 lock
WR Anquan Boldin 12 lock
WR Demaryius Thomas 40.1 lock
WR Wes Welker 14 lock
TE Julius Thomas 6.7 lock
FLEX Markus Wheaton 0 swap out
DST Steelers 0

TOTAL FANTASY POINTS: 130.72

Wheaton was cheap and could blow the roof off the Texans tonight not that I am expecting that but it could happen. I like the Texans Defense sacking ability more but I like home teams in close games and the Steelers are a lock to me. And of course there is Bell. Thank you for wishing me luck, I need it

Price for Foster on the road was 1800 more then Bell. I like Bell to hit his expectation more so then I think Foster will, nothing against Foster but at 8800 your looking at needing a monster game for him to hit that. Not that he can't, he can of course, but I doubt it.

For Bell to hit expectation of 26.4 or 4x his salary he needs to get 100 rushing yards (10 points plus 3 bonus), score 1 TD (6 points) and catch 7 passes. Passing yards not considered but obviously that would decrease his number of catches needed. He has 4, 5, and 6 catches his last three games. If he scores he hits that projection.

For Foster to hit his expectation of 35.2 to get 4x his salary well you do the math. To me it was a no brainer, you have to go with Bell over Foster given the salary and expectation.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Gator993

I'm really late to this discussion but I'm interested in bankroll management strategy.

I started the year on the cheap. $50 in both FD and DK. My goal (much more like dream was to run it up to 10k).

I started the season playing $10 in cash games (50/50) on each site and 2 $2 gpp on both sites. Quickly was obvious that unless I got really lucky I wasn't going to come close to my goal. Got lucky in week 3 and had two top 25 finishes in the $2 gpp for a total of $250. I started to press and put an entry into the $25 big money gpps. But again realized that one entry takes extreme luck to cash and my week 3 results was probably my luck for season.

So this week I went to playing $50 in cash games and $25 in gpps but put 25 different $1 lineups into the same FD gpp. This appears to be much more sound strategy though top prize is only 4k and not a million.

I have a long shot lineup with Big Ben, foster and brown sitting on 71 points but for the most part i don't expect any big pay days but definitely will come out ahead.

The most painful was a lineup I had with dez and romo that the TD reversal to the 1 footling wiped out 10 points that would of put me over 165 points and 6th overall going into tonight. Instead it will struggle to finish top 50 or so. Still I good outing but ouch how painful 1 yard is.

Does anyone else use a strategy like this? Would love feedback. I also keep track of my stats and roi. The one thing I started this week was to see what percentage of lineups I had certain players in to see if it matched up with my rankings.

are you just new to this discussion or new to the sites in general?

1 thing i would advise against is so many entries in cheap FD GPPs...

sure its only $1 per entry...but there are usually 50k+ entries, and the payouts arent that profitable unless u hit a nice tier

id spread it around among the $2/$5/$10 entries...

they usually have the same amount of entrants as the $1 GPP, but payouts are worth it if you hit since buy in is more

if your going to multi entry GPPs, id advise focusing that solely on DK, as i find it easier to hit there and the fields to be a lot softer

[extreme]

but if Clowney plays Texans run def gets a little better is why i was leaning towards Foster on FD salary is 9.1k for Foster compared to 8.4k for Bell, and the Steelers have a weak def and Houston has to lean heavily on Foster with Fitzpatrick under center no matter how deep you stack the box he seems to find a hole....but looking at Steelers MNF record and the home winning streak now has me second guessing myself and doing that yesterday cost 7k in a tournament

[Gator993]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

are you just new to this discussion or new to the sites in general?

1 thing i would advise against is so many entries in cheap FD GPPs...

sure its only $1 per entry...but there are usually 50k+ entries, and the payouts arent that profitable unless u hit a nice tier

id spread it around among the $2/$5/$10 entries...

they usually have the same amount of entrants as the $1 GPP, but payouts are worth it if you hit since buy in is more

if your going to multi entry GPPs, id advise focusing that solely on DK, as i find it easier to hit there and the fields to be a lot softer

I have played for last two years but definitely don't think I'm an expert.

I have had more success on FD but not sure why as I prefer DK usually.

Don't multiple entries in same tournament make it better to avoid variance? Just as hard if not harder to win 2/5/10 dollar tourneys with same entries and my BR can't afford 20+ lineups at one of those levels right now.

[ninjacookies]

Fanduel or not, I REALLY want Clowney to play. It's just an added dimension of excitement and gives me a reason to actually watch such a historically boring matchup.

[extreme]

i am in 4 tournaments on FD m-t all same linups 2/5/10/25 just different pay outs hoping to get a couple more top 5 wins

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by extreme

but if Clowney plays Texans run def gets a little better is why i was leaning towards Foster on FD salary is 9.1k for Foster compared to 8.4k for Bell, and the Steelers have a weak def and Houston has to lean heavily on Foster with Fitzpatrick under center no matter how deep you stack the box he seems to find a hole....but looking at Steelers MNF record and the home winning streak now has me second guessing myself and doing that yesterday cost 7k in a tournament

Your point is valid. The salary differences on the sites has to be a serious consideration. I am talking about DK. I play on both sites but I hate the need to waste money on a kicker on FD personally and spend more time on DK

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Fanduel or not, I REALLY want Clowney to play. It's just an added dimension of excitement and gives me a reason to actually watch such a historically boring matchup.

Clowney played in the Redskins game week one and Morris had a good game against them. It included a lot of screen passes which would help Bell. Also Ben is one QB who can stand in the pocket well against pressure

[bkovach06]

I'm at 80 points with Andre/Foster/Heath Miller/Suisham and Texans D

I was hoping that Texans D would be low owned and hope for a miracle but they are like 34%

Hopefully I can cash out tonight, got lit up yesterday

[SilverSlater]

I need a dud from Le'veon Bell in order to place in my league tonight. However, he's already looking like he will be my demise.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Sun-Mon games are possibly going to make my losses this weekend a little easier. I'm currently cashing in a couple triple ups and a few other small leagues.

I'm going after tonight's game fairly heavily on the Mon-Thurs games. The following is my predominant roster:
Rapelisberger - he'll have to pass to win. Likely running for his life with JJ Watt getting a couple sacks.
Foster - Houston just doesn't seem inclined to score many passing TD's. I think they'll jump to an early lead and run Foster 25+ times tonight. TD's are a tough prediction, but I like Foster for 1.
Hillman - the RB2 is the least opinionated spot on the roster for me due to a couple factors: I don't like either Oliver or Hillman to get big numbers Thursday, but Bell is uber expensive. I would go Alfred Blue here, but the savings doesn't bet me Julius Thomas as my TE, so I pick Hillman. He's essentially the hottest girl willing to go home with me at the bar tonight. I'm not thrilled, but he fills a need.
Brown - HOU and PIT are tied for most 20+ yard passes allowed. Tonight's game will have PLENTY of 20+ yard gains. Therefore I picked the most explosive WR's on the board.
Hopkins - it was tough to choose between Hopkins and Johnson. I think Hopkins is more explosive and will have slightly lower ownership due to getting fewer targets per game. I'm just hoping Bill Obrien and the Texans staff use him as a deep ball threat plenty tonight.
Wheaton - TY Hilton abused the Texans secondary 10 days ago. I'm hoping Wheaton studied his moves...
Gates - Picked solely on his affinity for the end zone and money I had remaining after picking my core team. Obviously I'd prefer Julius Thomas, but his price is utterly ridiculous. Heath Miller could easily do better than Gates in these tournaments, but I can't fathom having over $1,000 in salary cap leftover. Another choice of desperation due to salary.
Novak
Broncos

This is a tough set of games to pick IMO. I think both games will be relatively close and both totals will hit in the 47-51 range. With such a short field, Denver's costs are just too tough for me to swallow (Manning $10k, DT $9100, JT $8600, and so on). Ultimately, I prefer to spend $21,200 stacking PIT's options over the $27,700 it would take to stack Denver. If you sub out Sanders for JT it still hits $25,900. Stacking Rivers and company ($22,400 down to $21,600)is still more expensive than the PIT stack, so it was really a process of elimination when all things are equal. I could stack HOU for $20,200, but I can't reasonably trust Fitzpatrick when I like Foster to vulture the red zone TD's.

we seemed to have the same concept when it comes to denver..this was my approach last night

Peyton was $10k as well as this week..and yes he scored 28 points..thats slightly over 2.5x

whereas Kaep at $7.7k only needed 18 points for same value plus roster flexibility elsehwere

same with this week..i believe both Foster and Bell are solid plays though

Mon/Thur FD

Rivers
Bell
Foster
Andre
Welker
Wheaton
Miller
Bullock
Houston

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by addicted36

Your point is valid. The salary differences on the sites has to be a serious consideration. I am talking about DK. I play on both sites but I hate the need to waste money on a kicker on FD personally and spend more time on DK

ive never understood this argument..

youd rather have that flex option to hopefully get another cheap player to produce? is it really that much difference?

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

ive never understood this argument..

youd rather have that flex option to hopefully get another cheap player to produce? is it really that much difference?

I find it hard when picking kickers too because there's so much randomness in it. With the flex spot it takes more skill because position player production has more predictability to it.

Side note, Le'veon Bell just brought me into the money in the millionaire maker, hopefully it stays that way

[bigzig]

Well Wheaton was a dud to start off my Mon-Thurs games, The Johnson TD just dropped me down to spot 31 where the top 30 are paid and Bell had his best game of the season which cost me my fantasy win this week by 3 points....

[cromartie3145]

Juuuuuuussst eeked out a win tonight for my first win of the season haha. Got in the $ by 1 point on FD:

Flacco 16.72
Forsett 9.5
Ellington 19
Steve Smith 8.2
Antonio Brown 17.62
Golden Tate 26.4
Jordan Cameron 1
Randy Bullock 11
Bills D/ST 10

119.44 total

I had Palmer and Cobb in over Flacco and Smith but changed them out at the last second. Would have gotten like 18 more but oh well, I'll take the W.

Jordan Cameron was also a huge dud.

[addicted36]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

ive never understood this argument..

youd rather have that flex option to hopefully get another cheap player to produce? is it really that much difference?

To me yea. I punt the position every time I play, much rather have a flex position then just throwing money away on a kicker. I am not saying they are not important to the game but how do most people in fantasy treat them? Rather not have to deal with kickers

[bloodwings19]

I won my fantasy FB team with the last Arian touchdown. I didn't even watch the final minutes until I saw the score.


118.50 Points 118.00
110.15 Orig Proj 131.64
118.50 Live Proj 118.00

[CharlieL]

for the thursday game who would u guys take Julius or Antonio. I can't decide.

[darkman]

Hard to not go with Julious but that price tag... Anyone doing the college ties, thurs and Friday? Thought about jumping in it to hold me off for the weekend but those are some ugly games.

[Cowboys4949]

Had a good week won 635 total. Finished 312 out of 91954

[bkovach06]

Well atleast I won my $50 back last night that I lost Sunday, could have been better but Andre Johnson/Heath Miller stunk it up

[BmoreRavens90]

so...... whos picking Colt McCoy this week? I believe I saw him for only 5000$

edit:saw it was 6100, still thats not bad

[Cowboys4949]

Originally Posted by BmoreRavens90

so...... whos picking Colt McCoy this week? I believe I saw him for only 5000$

edit:saw it was 6100, still thats not bad

He is a below average qb with NO arm strength

[CharlieL]

Originally Posted by Cowboys4949

He is a below average qb with NO arm strength

#@#@#@#@ it, i am going with bridgewater. he is nothing on here lol.