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View Poll Results: If you had 48 hours in the past, would you buy card?
Yes, I would. 13 41.94%
No. Too much important stuff to do. 7 22.58%
Time travel isn't real. 7 22.58%
Intersteller was an entertaining movie. 4 12.90%
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:08 PM   #1
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Default If you had a time machine...

...and had a total of 48 hours that you could spend at any time in the past, would you buy sports cards? You can appear anywhere at any time in the past (so has to eliminate travel time from your 48 hour total).

As in, in between killing Hitler, sitting at the feet of a religion founder, hugging a lost loved one, and buying stock in Apple and Microsoft....would you spare an hour or so to buy up some cards???
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:18 PM   #2
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One of my stops would be this Woolworth's in 1952. Can you imagine the Group Break when I got home.

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Old 11-26-2014, 04:20 PM   #3
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Frack no...the last thing on my mind would be cards...
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:20 PM   #4
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Cards no, stock yes. I'd buy as much Microsoft stock as I could afford and a stock purchase takes all of minutes leaving me plenty of time for debauchery. Then upon return to this poo generation, I will be wealthy enough to buy any card(s) I would want, short of Wossa beating me to the punch. Win/win.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:35 PM   #5
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Frack no...the last thing on my mind would be cards...
Really

Op is fantasizing incorrectly if he had 48 hours to go back in time and he must expect to steal armloads of stuff and haul ass and hope he outruns the police, while hiding in a vacant lot.

let me poke a hole in your fantasy...sorry

Money, everything takes money. Paper money would be cheaper than gold because money had more value than gold at a point in-relation to today's value.

2nd, bacteria and virus have mutated to what they are today. That means if you go back to ,say, 1918 you risk death or wiping out millions on your return.

Then you have the butterfly effect. Item #1 you buy that may have gone to someone who was happy at what he got and it altered their day, may end up not getting what made that day and altered history for every. Not to say that as you walk, people who shift left, would shift right or move or any number of details that change the entire course of history.

All things being considered my decision is simple. People always make that silly Hitler mistake.

You go back in time, you assassinate Ignacy Łukasiewicz and burn his lab.

See, I have thought about it. Who hasn't ?

Removing Ignacy Łukasiewicz would reset everything. No gas powered anything. His discovery leads to so many other discoveries that have benefited humanity on the front end but will end up ....well, no one thinks they live in the golden age anymore, that is for sure
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Really

Op is fantasizing incorrectly if he had 48 hours to go back in time and he must expect to steal armloads of stuff and haul ass and hope he outruns the police, while hiding in a vacant lot.

let me poke a hole in your fantasy...sorry

You must be loads of fun at parties.

OP: Before you go, make sure you have cash from the year in question in your pocket. Only drink beer. Don't fornicate with anyone who could be an ancestor. Research the things that are valuable to us today from that era but don't go for one-of-a-kind things.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:06 PM   #7
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Time Travel has always fascinated me. Theoretically speaking it is possible but the pardoxes that could be created always throw a wrench in the execution.

For instance, the well known Grandfather paradox. If you were to go back in time and kill your grandfather then that would mean you were never born. But if you were never born you could never go back in time in the first place. The televison show Lost made a valiant effort at explaining all of the intricacies of time travel by expounding that time is not linear or in a straight line. So for instance if you injured someone in the past they would still display the marks of that injury in the present because it has already happened to them. But for us, the past is our present. It is just happening to us at that moment.

There was also a Twilight Zone episode where someone went back in time to kill Hitler when he was a baby in his crib. The character managed to kill the baby, but what he did not realize is that the baby was not Hitler at all. The family who realized their baby was dead replaced that child with a child that grew up to be Hitler.

I'm rambling and not answering the question posed in the op. There would be many things I would concentrate on while traveling back in time but sports cards would not be one of them.

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Old 11-26-2014, 05:42 PM   #8
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For instance, the well known Grandfather paradox. If you were to go back in time and kill your grandfather then that would mean you were never born. But if you were never born you could never go back in time in the first place.
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That only applies , in theory, if you feel existence is linear or if it actually is.

Dejavu is my main view that such is not the case. I have had that cold dash of water in the face event "Iv'e done this before" and remember it as I am doing it. It happened so often in my late 20's that as it was happening I would change things. That is why I ended up being interested in time travel.

The view that allows for this is that all of time happens at once. There is no circular cycle to time. What I am doing now is overlapped by what I did 2 seconds ago, 20 years ago, 20 years from now. the view of how such happens follows the line of thought that leans towards the multi-verse theory (However I find string theory to be pure #@#@#@#@ since you plug "made up" numbers to fit the theory to begin with)

SO!

If the Multi-verse is true you would be alive after killing your grandfather. The Multi-verse view also allows for forward time travel which nearly all theoretical scientists feel is impossible, yet they have no issue agreeing with math that proves time travel, itself, is true
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:46 PM   #9
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You must be loads of fun at parties.

OP: Before you go, make sure you have cash from the year in question in your pocket. Only drink beer. Don't fornicate with anyone who could be an ancestor. Research the things that are valuable to us today from that era but don't go for one-of-a-kind things.
Nah

I think people should take a trip, down the hole, the full trip when going to fantasize down that path. I mean seriously the topic should be "If you could time travel to get a card(s) what would it be" to avoid the obvious self interest at play. I think a persons level of character comes shinning through in a question like this.
Do they think of themselves or of everyone.
Do they place such a value on tangibles that they would ignore the benefit to all of humanity in a simple action.

It's just how i see things. I know you have seen plenty of my posts over the years. I do not alter or change and this question and my answer just shows more of how I view "life" and the people around me. My motives have always been altruistic
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:47 PM   #10
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Also...OP....I just answered the poll and I am assuming you just posted a spoiler to the movie interstellar by your question and poll answer ?.....Thanks...for that.....
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:49 PM   #11
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either back to 1952 for some topps

or 1939 for cases of action comics #1 and detective comics 27
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Nah

I think people should take a trip, down the hole, the full trip when going to fantasize down that path. I mean seriously the topic should be "If you could time travel to get a card(s) what would it be" to avoid the obvious self interest at play. I think a persons level of character comes shinning through in a question like this.
Do they think of themselves or of everyone.
Do they place such a value on tangibles that they would ignore the benefit to all of humanity in a simple action.

It's just how i see things. I know you have seen plenty of my posts over the years. I do not alter or change and this question and my answer just shows more of how I view "life" and the people around me. My motives have always been altruistic
LOL so you went from the OP's what-if scenario to he is a selfish person. Your altruism isn't really shining through right now.

OP I am thankful you are not like some people on this forum who always seem to have to prove how straight and narrow they are.

And, I am out of this thread. It's not the day to be arguing with stick-in-the-mud minds.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:08 PM   #13
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Usually the ground rules for time travel is that you can't bring anything back.
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Also...OP....I just answered the poll and I am assuming you just posted a spoiler to the movie interstellar by your question and poll answer ?.....Thanks...for that.....
Haha, no sports cards in Interstellar. Time travel, yes. But anyone going to see the movie knows that it's all mind-bendy and trippy.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:13 PM   #15
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You must be loads of fun at parties.
Spot on exactly what I thought too.

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Nah

I think people should take a trip, down the hole, the full trip when going to fantasize down that path. I mean seriously the topic should be "If you could time travel to get a card(s) what would it be" to avoid the obvious self interest at play. I think a persons level of character comes shinning through in a question like this.
Do they think of themselves or of everyone.
Do they place such a value on tangibles that they would ignore the benefit to all of humanity in a simple action.

It's just how i see things. I know you have seen plenty of my posts over the years. I do not alter or change and this question and my answer just shows more of how I view "life" and the people around me. My motives have always been altruistic
All of this is fine and good but can't you just relax and have fun with it? Why try to go all Stephen Hawking? This is what happened in the Phelps thread the other day and why I walked away from it. Life is complicated enough and it is nice to come here and talk bs or fantasize for a second about going back in time. It ruins it when someone decides to poke holes in a topic that was already on the lighter side.
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LOL so you went from the OP's what-if scenario to he is a selfish person. Your altruism isn't really shining through right now.

OP I am thankful you are not like some people on this forum who always seem to have to prove how straight and narrow they are.

And, I am out of this thread. It's not the day to be arguing with stick-in-the-mud minds.
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Some people have the "character" to not piss and moan when they dislike someone...Clearly, you do not. But hey, I forgive you
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I'd go back back to the 20's and pork an unshaven gal. I assume sex in black and white would be fabulous.
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I'd go back back to the 20's and pork an unshaven gal. I assume sex in black and white would be fabulous.
Unshaven ? Just go back to 1984. Then you also get the beginning of the best music era of them all Per black and white....Hell, I am sure Janet is available and I think she was 18 in 84
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I would go back to late 70s and see what it was like to see first run episodes of Three's Company

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Heinlein had a good take on time travel: if you go back and alter something it just creates an alternate universe. So the universe you left would remain unchanged but the one you went to would change.
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I'd go back to 1907 and convince the Vienna Academy of the Arts to accept an 18 year old Hitler as a student, or to 1914 Serbia to prevent Gavrilo Princip from killing Franz Ferdinand thus no WWI, either one would solve the Hitler problem.
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Heinlein had a good take on time travel: if you go back and alter something it just creates an alternate universe. So the universe you left would remain unchanged but the one you went to would change.
wasn't it Doc Brown who proved that?
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:59 PM   #24
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What do you mean "if" I had a time machine?

Listen when I say our President in 2030 is benshobbies and our Vice President is some guy that constantly gives the thumbs up and says Holy Moly.
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I would go back in time and not read this thread.
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