Blue Jays' Drew Hutchinson optioned to AAA despite 12-2 record this year....

JMPKCP · 08-17-2015, 08:22 PM

I don't care if the guy's ERA is 5.06. He does enough to get wins. 12-2!!!!

Haven't the Blue Jays ever heard of "playing the rush"?

IamRalpho · 08-17-2015, 08:29 PM

1. Its Hutchison, no n.

Wins are probably the most useless stat in all of baseball. 1.4 WHIP isnt good either.

In his 12 wins, this is how much run support he got

6
7
7
6
7
8
8
3
6
9
4
3

I can see why he got 12 wins with all that support

Hollywood42 · 08-17-2015, 08:29 PM

I was surprised to see this too. I know he's not pitching as well as his record, but still. Sounds like Jays won't need a 5th starter until next weekend, so they decided to send him down and bring up some hitting depth (really?)

Bhenry4 · 08-17-2015, 08:32 PM

He sucks...

Peties Army · 08-17-2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

I don't care if the guy's ERA is 5.06. He does enough to get wins. 12-2!!!!

Haven't the Blue Jays ever heard of "playing the rush"?

Really? Trying reading any baseball book from the last decade and see how useless wins stats are

CM Sports Memorabilia · 08-17-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhenry4

He sucks...

Well this is an intelligent comment...

I'm sitting on some of his stuff and I've been waiting for the WHIP and WARP to be better in line before selling. I was also hoping that with the Jays success that he would start pitching better- I guess I'm still waiting...

Twinsfan33 · 08-17-2015, 08:38 PM

hmm...interesting move by the Jays FO

moosefan87 · 08-17-2015, 08:42 PM

Not that interesting when he is horrible on the road and a 5.06 era. Follow the team then make an educated statement.

free2131 · 08-17-2015, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

I don't care if the guy's ERA is 5.06. He does enough to get wins. 12-2!!!!

If you had said that his TEAMMATES did enough to win, I'd agree with you. They win IN SPITE of him, not because of him.

Bhenry4 · 08-17-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by C&M Sports Memorabil

Well this is an intelligent comment...

I'm sitting on some of his stuff and I've been waiting for the WHIP and WARP to be better in line before selling. I was also hoping that with the Jays success that he would start pitching better- I guess I'm still waiting...

Im sorry that I hurt your feelings, but he sucks.

enbambam6986 · 08-17-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhenry4

Im sorry that I hurt your feelings, but he sucks.

This ^^^^

Nathan Eovaldi = Drew Hutchison

death2redemptions · 08-17-2015, 08:50 PM

Because the Blue Jays aren't stupid and they know just how useless the win/loss stat is when it comes to pitchers.

rob11nats · 08-17-2015, 09:14 PM

He's not as good as his record but he's nowhere near as bad as his ERA. His FIP is under 4 and appears to have had very bad BABIP luck too. Who are they going to replace him with?! Not like they have a bunch of studs taking up space in that rotation...

Hollywood42 · 08-17-2015, 09:18 PM

+1........

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Originally Posted by rob11nats

He's not as good as his record but he's nowhere near as bad as his ERA. His FIP is under 4 and appears to have had very bad BABIP luck too. Who are they going to replace him with?! Not like they have a bunch of studs taking up space in that rotation...

preakness · 08-17-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

I don't care if the guy's ERA is 5.06. He does enough to get wins. 12-2!!!!

Haven't the Blue Jays ever heard of "playing the rush"?

Prospect rush????

Melagoo · 08-17-2015, 09:27 PM

... good move Toronto ... Hutch never impressed me ... road games were horrible

JMPKCP · 08-17-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

Prospect rush????

Love it!!!

Does Hutchison have like a 5-game winning streak? I say let him start until your team loses one game. Maybe the players like hitting for him when he's on the mound. Still makes no sense to ignore his W-L.

cruiserdaddy7 · 08-17-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Love it!!!

Does Hutchison have like a 5-game winning streak? I say let him start until your team loses one game. Maybe the players like hitting for him when he's on the mound. Still makes no sense to ignore his W-L.

You will change your mind on this....give it a day or two

Peties Army · 08-17-2015, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Love it!!!

Does Hutchison have like a 5-game winning streak? I say let him start until your team loses one game. Maybe the players like hitting for him when he's on the mound. Still makes no sense to ignore his W-L.

geez it's getting worse

CM Sports Memorabilia · 08-17-2015, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhenry4

Im sorry that I hurt your feelings, but he sucks.

Doesn't hurt my feelings it's just difficult to have a baseball conversation when your contribution is "he sucks"

I'm sure that took lots of research to figure that out!

shortstopguy12 · 08-17-2015, 09:40 PM

You guys are missing why they are doing this... With 8 games in 10 or 11 days, I can't remember, they are doing a 4 man rotation. Hutch is the #5 guy right now and will be sent to AAA so he doesn't miss a start. The other great reason for this is the jays can call up a guy to be on the bench, whether it is a pinch hitter, a defensive specialist, or a speedy guy.... Strategic move and Drew will be back afterwards....

callou2131 · 08-17-2015, 09:42 PM

I don't follow him at all, but with the run support shown a lot of mediocre guys could be 12-2

HOFAutoRookies · 08-17-2015, 09:43 PM

Buy your standards, I guess Shelby Miller should be sent down being 0-8 in his last 16 starts, DESPITE a 3 era

Hollywood42 · 08-17-2015, 09:45 PM

Post 3

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Originally Posted by shortstopguy12

You guys are missing why they are doing this... With 8 games in 10 or 11 days, I can't remember, they are doing a 4 man rotation. Hutch is the #5 guy right now and will be sent to AAA so he doesn't miss a start. The other great reason for this is the jays can call up a guy to be on the bench, whether it is a pinch hitter, a defensive specialist, or a speedy guy.... Strategic move and Drew will be back afterwards....

coachnip13 · 08-17-2015, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortstopguy12

You guys are missing why they are doing this... With 8 games in 10 or 11 days, I can't remember, they are doing a 4 man rotation. Hutch is the #5 guy right now and will be sent to AAA so he doesn't miss a start. The other great reason for this is the jays can call up a guy to be on the bench, whether it is a pinch hitter, a defensive specialist, or a speedy guy.... Strategic move and Drew will be back afterwards....

Can't believe it took this long for someone to explain it. People in this thread really thought that they just shipped him off to AAA for performance.

08-17-2015, 08:22 PM	#1
JMPKCP Banned Join Date: May 2014 Location: Wine country Posts: 4,673	Blue Jays' Drew Hutchinson optioned to AAA despite 12-2 record this year.... I don't care if the guy's ERA is 5.06. He does enough to get wins. 12-2!!!! Haven't the Blue Jays ever heard of "playing the rush"?

08-17-2015, 08:29 PM	#2
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,718 IamSilly	1. Its Hutchison, no n. Wins are probably the most useless stat in all of baseball. 1.4 WHIP isnt good either. In his 12 wins, this is how much run support he got 6 7 7 6 7 8 8 3 6 9 4 3 I can see why he got 12 wins with all that support __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

08-17-2015, 08:29 PM	#3
Hollywood42 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 39,527 Hollywood42	I was surprised to see this too. I know he's not pitching as well as his record, but still. Sounds like Jays won't need a 5th starter until next weekend, so they decided to send him down and bring up some hitting depth (really?) __________________ Collecting the Twins All my PC wants/haves available at hollywood42cards.com

08-17-2015, 08:32 PM	#4
Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,996 bhendu1	He sucks... __________________ Viva John Ryno

08-17-2015, 08:38 PM	#7
Twinsfan33 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 4,251 twinsfan33	hmm...interesting move by the Jays FO __________________ HUGE Minnesota sports fan! PC-Joe Mauer,Twins,Twins Prospects,Vikings, Some T-Wolves and anything that catches my eye

08-17-2015, 08:42 PM	#8
moosefan87 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Cam Wodham's Moms House Posts: 419 moosefan87	Not that interesting when he is horrible on the road and a 5.06 era. Follow the team then make an educated statement.

08-17-2015, 08:50 PM	#12
death2redemptions Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Creeping in mama's cellar Posts: 59,303 ddavisaz	Because the Blue Jays aren't stupid and they know just how useless the win/loss stat is when it comes to pitchers.

08-17-2015, 09:14 PM	#13
rob11nats Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: RI Posts: 4,571	He's not as good as his record but he's nowhere near as bad as his ERA. His FIP is under 4 and appears to have had very bad BABIP luck too. Who are they going to replace him with?! Not like they have a bunch of studs taking up space in that rotation...

08-17-2015, 09:27 PM	#16
Melagoo Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: GTA (Greater Toronto Area) Ontario, Canada Posts: 8,492 Melagoo1 Melagoo	... good move Toronto ... Hutch never impressed me ... road games were horrible __________________ Go Leafs! Go Jays! Go Raps! Go Bills!

08-17-2015, 09:40 PM	#21
shortstopguy12 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 8,069 Shortstopguy12	You guys are missing why they are doing this... With 8 games in 10 or 11 days, I can't remember, they are doing a 4 man rotation. Hutch is the #5 guy right now and will be sent to AAA so he doesn't miss a start. The other great reason for this is the jays can call up a guy to be on the bench, whether it is a pinch hitter, a defensive specialist, or a speedy guy.... Strategic move and Drew will be back afterwards.... __________________ When sending me payment Via PayPal please switch the outgoing funds from CAD to USD. PayPal automatically converts your USD payments to CAD. Every deal I make ships from/to COMC

08-17-2015, 09:42 PM	#22
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,485	I don't follow him at all, but with the run support shown a lot of mediocre guys could be 12-2 __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

08-17-2015, 09:43 PM	#23
HOFAutoRookies Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Medina, MN Posts: 4,922	Buy your standards, I guess Shelby Miller should be sent down being 0-8 in his last 16 starts, DESPITE a 3 era