Did I get a steal on this Odell? - Page 2

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonm2121

looks to me like he just has a pretty horrible sig in general, if that one above got a 10 then the one OP got is an 11

I think OP stands a chance at resubbing to BGS and getting a 10 auto. My other 3 Contenders are also 9.5/10 with this being the worst of the 4 I have.

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:24 PM

Also OP, if this is for your PC, which mine is, then don't worry to much about the auto on this card. It's to rare of a card to worry about the auto. Just be happy ya have one!

charnick · 09-23-2015, 10:24 PM

serial number lookup for that slab says auto is an 8... much more in line with what it should be. if that be a 10, i'm out this game!

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by charnick

serial number lookup for that slab says auto is an 8... much more in line with what it should be. if that be a 10, i'm out this game!

Wow that is weird! They must have slabbed it incorrectly! I need to get in contact with them BGS! Thank you so much for pointing that out!!!

pgisback · 09-23-2015, 10:29 PM

Wow, it does show an 8 auto grade. That's weird.

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

Wow, it does show an 8 auto grade. That's weird.

You're telling me! I'm shocked! I guess I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what they say!

majestik101 · 09-23-2015, 10:32 PM

I have a related question, but how is it that the on card auto on my Odell Beckham refractor card is graded a 10 and is sharp and non streaky, but the one on card on Contenders appears to be streaky? I would assume that they would both have similar qualities, since they are both signed on card.

Would it have something to do with the paper stock used for the Contenders cards, or maybe is there a difference in the pen used on the contenders cards that makes it look like that? Just curious. Thanks!

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JMPKCP · 09-23-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joshduncan15

Don't ask me how it got a 10 Auto lol i figured it looks like it should be a 9 but I assume they were lenient since most of his autos were worse than this so mine is a 9.5/10. I figure I may have the only 1 that is 9.5/10.

Yeah...that 10 auto is definitely not a 10 auto. Maybe I can submit mine and get a 10 auto but they slab it with an 8.

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

I have a related question, but how is it that the on card auto on my Odell Beckham refractor card is graded a 10 and is sharp and non streaky, but the one on card on Contenders appears to be streaky? I would assume that they would both have similar qualities, since they are both signed on card.

Would it have something to do with the paper stock used for the Contenders cards, or maybe is there a difference in the pen used on the contenders cards that makes it look like that? Just curious. Thanks!

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Idk but do a serial look up on my card. In Becketts system it shows an 8 but on my card it says 10. So I'm way confused lol

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Yeah...that 10 auto is definitely not a 10 auto. Maybe I can submit mine and get a 10 auto but they slab it with an 8.

Yeah it is listed as a 8 but slabbed as a 10. I'm confused lol but going to call them tomorrow and see what they say.

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:38 PM

The guy who spotted it for me deserves an award. I just assumed to trust Beckett but I guess they too can make mistakes! Shout out to you kind sir!

majestik101 · 09-23-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joshduncan15

Yeah it is listed as a 8 but slabbed as a 10. I'm confused lol but going to call them tomorrow and see what they say.

Oh my gosh you're right. How the heck does that happen? Yeah I would definitely call Beckett on that for sure. Looks like they might have mis-labeled that card. Not entirely sure about the QC department over there.

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Oh my gosh you're right. How the heck does that happen? Yeah I would definitely call Beckett on that for sure. Looks like they might have mis-labeled that card. Not entirely sure about the QC department over there.

Definitely giving them a call tomorrow! I'm dumbfounded at the moment! I just assume to trust them and have never looked up the serial number after getting them back!

charnick · 09-23-2015, 10:48 PM

i've seen it happen before... they grade it one thing and then when the slab it, the low level employee they probably have doing it gets distracted by all the 10's that come across his plate and forgets to double check. on questionable 9/10's it's tough, because after the fact there's no way to know if the error is in the slabbing or in the pop report data entry, but in this case it's an easy call... if you ever put that up for sale, no way you'd get what a 10 auto normally would. Still a sweet card either way, but panooni needs to buy themselves some new lumocolor pens!

joshduncan15 · 09-23-2015, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by charnick

i've seen it happen before... they grade it one thing and then when the slab it, the low level employee they probably have doing it gets distracted by all the 10's that come across his plate and forgets to double check. on questionable 9/10's it's tough, because after the fact there's no way to know if the error is in the slabbing or in the pop report data entry, but in this case it's an easy call... if you ever put that up for sale, no way you'd get what a 10 auto normally would. Still a sweet card either way, but panooni needs to buy themselves some new lumocolor pens!

That's insane. It really irks me because I was stoked. I hope BGS makes it right though because it's a misrepresentation and I don't like it.

charnick · 09-23-2015, 11:43 PM

they'll probably take 2-3 weeks to fix it and maybe offer a free grading to send in with it, but you'll still have to send a few bucks to send it back into them. good luck, man!

88horsepower · 09-23-2015, 11:50 PM

Personally, I think it's a very nice find for that price.

jasonm2121 · 09-23-2015, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by joshduncan15

That's insane. It really irks me because I was stoked. I hope BGS makes it right though because it's a misrepresentation and I don't like it.

Human error will always occur in anything. My last order had the year mis-labeled on one card and another had a 10 for each category and they did not add a black label, have not reached out yet to correct

cyndeeg3 · 09-24-2015, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GB5HOF

Don't mean to hijack the thread...but there is some great insight here. I have the 2014 Odell Finest Refractor Auto /35. It was a redemption...so it came packaged with the Topps sticker over the toploader, etc. I was going to send it to BGS but the auto looks like a 9 to me. I may just leave it in the sealed toploader and sell it as is. Anyone think that's the right approach...or is my thinking flawed on this one? Any advice would be appreciated!

Just send to PSA, as shown here, auto doesn't matter!

GB5HOF · 09-24-2015, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cyndeeg3

Just send to PSA, as shown here, auto doesn't matter!

I think you might have something there...thanks!

nickha2 · 09-24-2015, 09:08 AM

This is what a 10 auto looks like for OBJ

GB5HOF · 09-24-2015, 09:16 AM

Yep...that's nicer that my Finest auto...I know mine would grade a 9 after seeing this one.

joshduncan15 · 09-24-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nickha2

This is what a 10 auto looks like for OBJ

These are what they look like also

This is what a 9 looks like as well

And obviously you have seen an 8 lol

09-23-2015, 10:24 PM	#28
charnick Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,509	serial number lookup for that slab says auto is an 8... much more in line with what it should be. if that be a 10, i'm out this game! __________________ Team Collecting: New York, New York: Yankees, Rangers, Nets, Jets Player Collecting: Nolan Ryan, Dr. J (Nets), Trout, Darvish, Revis (Jets), Namath, Lundqvist, Gehrig, Sheldon Richardson & Jack Eichel Set Collecting: 1992 Star Pics SNL Autographs

09-23-2015, 10:32 PM	#32
majestik101 Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 45,526 majestik101	I have a related question, but how is it that the on card auto on my Odell Beckham refractor card is graded a 10 and is sharp and non streaky, but the one on card on Contenders appears to be streaky? I would assume that they would both have similar qualities, since they are both signed on card. Would it have something to do with the paper stock used for the Contenders cards, or maybe is there a difference in the pen used on the contenders cards that makes it look like that? Just curious. Thanks! Attachment 302359 Last edited by majestik101; 11-27-2016 at 02:51 AM.

09-23-2015, 10:48 PM	#39
charnick Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,509	i've seen it happen before... they grade it one thing and then when the slab it, the low level employee they probably have doing it gets distracted by all the 10's that come across his plate and forgets to double check. on questionable 9/10's it's tough, because after the fact there's no way to know if the error is in the slabbing or in the pop report data entry, but in this case it's an easy call... if you ever put that up for sale, no way you'd get what a 10 auto normally would. Still a sweet card either way, but panooni needs to buy themselves some new lumocolor pens! __________________ Team Collecting: New York, New York: Yankees, Rangers, Nets, Jets Player Collecting: Nolan Ryan, Dr. J (Nets), Trout, Darvish, Revis (Jets), Namath, Lundqvist, Gehrig, Sheldon Richardson & Jack Eichel Set Collecting: 1992 Star Pics SNL Autographs

09-23-2015, 11:43 PM	#41
charnick Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,509	they'll probably take 2-3 weeks to fix it and maybe offer a free grading to send in with it, but you'll still have to send a few bucks to send it back into them. good luck, man! __________________ Team Collecting: New York, New York: Yankees, Rangers, Nets, Jets Player Collecting: Nolan Ryan, Dr. J (Nets), Trout, Darvish, Revis (Jets), Namath, Lundqvist, Gehrig, Sheldon Richardson & Jack Eichel Set Collecting: 1992 Star Pics SNL Autographs

09-23-2015, 10:24 PM	#27
joshduncan15 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 471 joshduncan15	Also OP, if this is for your PC, which mine is, then don't worry to much about the auto on this card. It's to rare of a card to worry about the auto. Just be happy ya have one!

09-23-2015, 10:29 PM	#30
pgisback Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 21,023	Wow, it does show an 8 auto grade. That's weird.

09-23-2015, 10:38 PM	#36
joshduncan15 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 471 joshduncan15	The guy who spotted it for me deserves an award. I just assumed to trust Beckett but I guess they too can make mistakes! Shout out to you kind sir!

09-23-2015, 11:50 PM	#42
88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,868	Personally, I think it's a very nice find for that price.

09-24-2015, 09:08 AM	#46
nickha2 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lambeau Field Posts: 6,907	This is what a 10 auto looks like for OBJ

09-24-2015, 09:16 AM	#47
GB5HOF Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 1,543	Yep...that's nicer that my Finest auto...I know mine would grade a 9 after seeing this one.