Important info for anyone using COMC Mailbox service

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Because I have no idea what that charity is and I know the ACS is highly reputable sorry.. my offer to match a proven donation of $100 will remain until the end of the night. No one please offer to pay for Jon.. this is 100% between him and I. I've been waiting quite awhile for him to pay his commitments.

It is the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. They gave me $500 towards my chemo when I was going through treatment.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by jj2

I don't have a dog in this fight (I don't know you, I don't know OP and I don't know jlzinck), but you've crossed the line here. I don't know if what you or saying is true (and, frankly, don't really care) but it has nothing to do with this thread and seems like nothing more than petty bickering among, presumably, adults.

The smarter thing to do would have been to just help OP out. Instead you've tried to pass the buck to COMC (who it seems must super collect Tony Wroten and Nikola Mirotic) and in the process undoubtably lost current and future customers. I hope it was worth it.

Jon made that offer to the OP in an attempt to embarrass me, not out of the goodness of his heart. Although I agree 100% it had nothing to do with this thread (and I absolutely hate when people do things like that).. he is only replying because I am involved so I wanted to expose him on his gigantic hypocrisy.

I'm getting highly frustrated that people are trying to tear me down while ignoring the facts... I think im done for the day on this one.

[bethanyb1201]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

I thank the OP for sending me the images so I could edit out the personal shipping information and show the actual damage on this package...

I have a question. Looking at the picture the end of the bar code if stuck to the envelope would have been wrapped around to the backside and unable to scan. My question is Imac is it possible that the envelope wasn't sealed when the label was put on or is the angle playing tricks on my eyes?

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by JosieD

It is the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. They gave me $500 towards my chemo when I was going through treatment.

Hope you are doing better and I hope you do more great work for them, but they aren't a national charity I know directly helps millions (including my family and people I know).

[cking]

you guys can all make donations to my cause if you like

its called the crystalneedsanewgretzkypsa10rookie foundation

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

No.. no he is not. As I just pointed out. He also directly insulted me.. where is your call for his apology?

Somehow I feel this is not going to end well for you or your reputation. I do not know of the $500 deal you speak of, but I do know that Jon has previously shown you public proof of the baseball donation yet you continue to spread this lie.

[karlsta26]

The comc offices all look to have very dirty floors, the damage & loss of cards must have surely happened there.....doubtful

Look at the pics provided, it's all carpeted office areas. Damage 100% occurred on USPS side of things.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

I have a question. Looking at the picture the end of the bar code if stuck to the envelope would have been wrapped around to the backside and unable to scan. My question is Imac is it possible that the envelope wasn't sealed when the label was put on or is the angle playing tricks on my eyes?

No.. the envelope itself is sealed over the edge.. and the label is adhered over that seal while remaining one sided across the face of the package. There is no "folding over" that you seem to be describing. As you can see from these photos and the previous one.. the package is opened.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Jon made that offer to the OP in an attempt to embarrass me, not out of the goodness of his heart. Although I agree 100% it had nothing to do with this thread (and I absolutely hate when people do things like that).. he is only replying because I am involved so I wanted to expose him on his gigantic hypocrisy.

I'm getting highly frustrated that people are trying to tear me down while ignoring the facts... I think im done for the day on this one.

You've completely misinterpreted and missed the point I was trying to make. It doesn't seem like you're seeing this situation clearly.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Somehow I feel this is not going to end well for you or your reputation. I do not know of the $500 deal you speak of, but I do know that Jon has previously shown you public proof of the baseball donation yet you continue to spread this lie.

He has never shown said proof.. would love to see it. The $500 donation happened a good year+ before the baseball incident. Don't remember the exact issue but he said if I could prove him wrong he would donate $500 to the team Connor charity. I proved him wrong.. still waiting for the donation.

[bethanyb1201]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

No.. the envelope itself is sealed over the edge.. and the label is adhered over that seal while remaining one sided across the face of the package. There is no "folding over" that you seem to be describing. As you can see from these photos and the previous one.. the package is opened.

The pictures are playing tricks on the eyes. It looks like on the far right the lip is open and extended. The mailing label goes to the end of the fold over lip that's not folded over. If it was folded over the bar code wouldn't be scan-able. Thats what I was trying to ask but as I mentioned I think the picture was playing tricks on my eyes.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

love the "unbiased" view of the same people in every thread. EBay and Paypal are wrong.. I'm wrong, COMC did nothing wrong, and somehow im a "loophole" haha.. gotta love it.

i don't dislike you, and i thought it was unbiased.

it seems like, had this been sent to the OP and received this way, he'd win the case and you'd go through with the refund. But, because it has that 3rd party mailbox rule, you win the claim and wash your hands of the responsibility.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

The pictures are playing tricks on the eyes. It looks like on the far right the lip is open and extended. The mailing label goes to the end of the fold over lip that's not folded over. If it was folded over the bar code wouldn't be scan-able. Thats what I was trying to ask but as I mentioned I think the picture was playing tricks on my eyes.

its never folded over the edge. The white label goes across the package (nearly 100%).. the only folded part is the seal which is then covered by the label. I hope I am explaining this well for you.. very hard to describe without a visual lol

[bethanyb1201]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

its never folded over the edge. The white label goes across the package (nearly 100%).. the only folded part is the seal which is then covered by the label. I hope I am explaining this well for you.. very hard to describe without a visual lol

I know lol I feel like a idiot trying to explain what I think I might see!

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i don't dislike you, and i thought it was unbiased.

it seems like, had this been sent to the OP and received this way, he'd win the case and you'd go through with the refund. But, because it has that 3rd party mailbox rule, you win the claim and wash your hands of the responsibility.

You use the words "it seems"... no. The reason he would have lost this case even without voiding his buyer protection is because a 3rd party cannot prove to the customer they did not do wrong (IE its very possible an employee of COMC stole the contents of this package). If definitive proof could be provided I would happily compensate the customer.. it's not their fault this happened.

If COMC wants to accept packages they should be willing to accept the same liability I as a seller have to provide when sending directly to a customer. Should they not? No one here has explained to me why it's my responsibility as an ebay seller to cover the liability of COMC?

[crazymj]

Man, i can't believe i read all 6 pages.

I have voiced my concern about shipping expensive cards to comc before and been criticized by comc fans. I know comc is a great service for international buyers but as a seller, it just puts an extra "danger" to the transaction. Having an extra person to handle the package complicates it when something does go wrong (like in this case).

Here are some points i guess to summarize:

1. there's little chance that imac didnt' include the original cards.

2. the package is damaged and the cards are lost

3. the suspect is either USPS or comc

4. there's no reason to put insurance on these pacakges cause like imac said, insurance would be $3-10 and buyers would not want to pay that additional fee.

5. We will probably never find out if the post office or comc stole the card.

6. It should be the receiver (COMC) responsibility to try to figure out what happened since it would be the USPS driver that delivered the package to them that most likely stole it. If comc is innocent, then they should have realized that the package had a hole or ripped open on the other end, if they don't notice that, then the comc is the one that stole the cards.

7. Since comc or USPS will probably not take fault, the seller and buyer are kinda both out of luck and should share the loss.

BUT the buyer opened a case on ebay meaning they wanted 100% of the refund, so they didn't want to negotiate with seller about settling and wanted ebay to make the decision. So i feel that since buyer made that decision to open the case, then whatever decision that ebay made would be final.

The fairest solution would probably to split the lost 50/50 with the seller, but i feel for the seller since buyer opened the case. I mean if ebay decided on buyer's favor, imac would have been out 100% of the cost right? and thats not very fair either.


Sorry for your loss buyer, i think i've dealt with both of u guys before but just one of those situation where no one won.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by bethanyb1201

I know lol I feel like a idiot trying to explain what I think I might see!

This is a very poor photo but this is how it should look...

[37Jetson]

I just thought of a question.... Does a COMC Mailbox count as a Paypal Confirmed Address?

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

I just thought of a question.... Does a COMC Mailbox count as a Paypal Confirmed Address?

probably not if eBay ruled this way

[fullmetal]

I insure all eBay sales over $50.

I look at it like this: do I want to eat this loss or pass the risk to a third party at a modest fee?

I've never had one eBay insurance claim disputed. I've had issues with claims for non ebay items, but never with eBay. It is so easy to file and the auction page provides the value information. My last two USPS claims arrived as a physical check within five business days of filing.

I simply look at the premium as a cost of doing business and one that takes the risk off my shoulders.

I completely agree with eBay's stance regarding third party middlemen. Another layer has been added that is outside the control of the seller. The third party should have protocol in place to address these issues. This surely isn't a first.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by fullmetal

I insure all eBay sales over $50.

I look at it like this: do I want to eat this loss or pass the risk to a third party at a modest fee?

I've never had one eBay insurance claim disputed. I've had issues with claims for non ebay items, but never with eBay. It is so easy to file and the auction page provides the value information. My last two USPS claims arrived as a physical check within five business days of filing.

I simply look at the premium as a cost of doing business and one that takes the risk of my shoulders.

Do you do this as a business or for fun? If you do this as a business you are losing a lot more than you probably even realize doing that. The average price of my listings is something like $5.. I net 7% after fee's and payment to my cosignee... I would be out of business in under a week if I paid for insurance on even items over $50.

Most people on eBay don't understand they pay 50 cents to a dollar before even getting charged regular fee's. I could go on and on about this lol.

[fullmetal]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Do you do this as a business or for fun? If you do this as a business you are losing a lot more than you probably even realize doing that. The average price of my listings is something like $5.. I net 7% after fee's and payment to my cosignee... I would be out of business in under a week if I paid for insurance on even items over $50.

Most people on eBay don't understand they pay 50 cents to a dollar before even getting charged regular fee's. I could go on and on about this lol.

You need to look into an.umbrella insurance policy, versus an.individual item. Based on your volume you could purchase a total coverage policy. I'm medicated and the proper terminology eludes me.

Yes, I am a risk averse person. $3 to provide $100 in civerage and limit future hassle is worth it on my plan. As stated before, I literally ask my self as I produce the label: can I afford the full replacement value of this shipment?

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by fullmetal

You need to look into an.umbrella insurance policy, versus an.individual item. Based on your volume you could purchase a total coverage policy. I'm medicated and the proper terminology eludes me.

Yes, I am a risk averse person. $3 to provide $100 in future hassle is worth it on my plan. As stated before, I literally ask my self as I produce the label: can I afford the full replacement value of this shipment?

The likely hood of an issue such as this is like 1 in a billion (exaggeration). The likely hood of damage on a package is about 1 in 10,000. IE you are paying the pro rated value of $30,000 for a problem that could cost you as little as $50.. that's the kind of thing you have to think about when doing business. Unless you sell 10 items or so a month and all are over $100.. then you are just killing yourself.

As far as "umbrella insurance" I do not think such things exist when you can't even tell the insurer what the value will be until its actually sold.

[jlzinck]

Here is the post that started my offer

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862660-post169.html

The pertinent port of the post...
I can search here for "Imac" and find 50 or more threads I never posted in where I am being trolled, attacked, or made fun of. You are taking part in many of those threads.

Here was my offer to you......how your demented mind somehow believes the number was $500.....and of course you will vanish just like EVERY time you are proven wrong.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862710-post177.html

For those not wanting to click the ling here is my offer to JEREMY FROM FLORIDA

Here is your chance to something good for someone else.

Please find these 50 or more threads and post links to them.
I will go through them and see if what you say is true. Because as we all know the truth shall set you free.

When it has been confirmed as true I will donate $25 to thebrokepoet's son Connor's donation page when we get to 50. I will add $2 for every thread above and beoynd 50 to a maximum donation of $100.

I will give you 24 hours to do so.

Ball is in your court Jeremy

Of course because you are lazy and never wrong you replied with this

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862736-post181.html

Again for those not wanting to click

Blowout Cards Forums - Search Results

start counting and make that donation ASAP. Did you donate the $100 last time I did something like this?

All he did was do a search string with his name highlighted.

He did not provide links to 50 or more threads.

I STILL donated over $100 to Connor's Go Fund Me page after that because even though he didn't do what I asked I ALWAYS added extra to the donations.

I have posted this more than once and he has REFUSED to admit he was wrong.

If he even had ONE LEGIMATE issue I would be the 1st to admit I was wrong.

[wheeler281]

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Originally Posted by Yaga

Thanks for the offer dude but you're not responsible here!

It's just my bad luck, so it is what it is.

I will match jlzinks offer if you accept. No hide off my back.