Important info for anyone using COMC Mailbox service

[houdini]

It is the seller's responsibility to get the item to the buyer safely.

The seller agreed to ship to COMC.

eBay has a loophole allowing a seller to avoid responsibility in a third-party situation.

If this had happened on the forum and the parties could not agree, I would have the seller refund the buyer at least partially.

Unfortunately, this is an off-forum transaction.

Hopefully Paypal will protect the buyer.

Anyone claiming COMC stole the cards must understand that it is just as likely that the seller mailed an empty package: technically possible but extremely unlikely. Either the package wasn't sealed well (it happens - especially when dealing with volume) or someone in the post office grabbed the cards.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by houdini

It is the seller's responsibility to get the item to the buyer safely.

The seller agreed to ship to COMC.

eBay has a loophole allowing a seller to avoid responsibility in a third-party situation.

If this had happened on the forum and the parties could not agree, I would have the seller refund the buyer at least partially.

Unfortunately, this is an off-forum transaction.

Hopefully Paypal will protect the buyer.

Anyone claiming COMC stole the cards must understand that it is just as likely that the seller mailed an empty package: technically possible but extremely unlikely. Either the package wasn't sealed well (it happens - especially when dealing with volume) or someone in the post office grabbed the cards.

Why are you as a moderator installing your opinion (again) rather than moderating as your job requires? It's just as likely someone at COMC stole the contents of the package as anything else you listed there.. that is the point here. Do you know of some special reason why COMC is immaculate in their work and other companies are not? It's not a loophole.. it's logic. If you cannot prove a statement.. the statement is invalid.

Your post here will only further fan flames in this thread and you completely miss the point of that.. again.


EDIT: just want to point out.. no a seller does not "agree" to ship to COMC.. the buyer provides a shipping address and a seller is REQUIRED to ship to said provided address, otherwise they're own seller protection is invalidated.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

By

I will match jlzinks offer if you accept. No hide off my back.

I will match theirs as well. You do not deserve what you are having to deal with.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

I will match theirs as well. You do not deserve what you are having to deal with.

Just curious.. would you guys be willing to offer that money to me had I lost this case? Considering I would not only be losing the $81 purchase price.. but also $3 in shipping cost / fee's and supplies... 13% of $78 in bids, and 80% of $78 to my consignment customer... would you all be lining up to compensate my nearly $200 loss at USPS's fault (since you all seem to think COMC is never wrong)? How about the 5 times they "lost" my packages in the last 6 months.. any donations for that? As I said.. love the unbiased opinions on this website.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

However would you agree if it had arrived to the buyer like that then you would be responsible? It seems to me you choose to just take advantage of the fact it wasnt.

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Yes.. as I ALREADY STATED..

Awesome. Thats some quality cs right there. However has no trouble donating 100 dollars "right now" as stated a couple posts back

Op-gl if you choose to accept just pm me. I am headed out

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Just curious.. would you guys be willing to offer that money to me had I lost this case? Considering I would not only be losing the $81 purchase price.. but also $3 in shipping cost / fee's and supplies... 13% of $78 in bids, and 80% of $78 to my consignment customer... would you all be lining up to compensate my nearly $200 loss at USPS's fault (since you all seem to think COMC is never wrong)? How about the 5 times they "lost" my packages in the last 6 months.. any donations for that? As I said.. love the unbiased opinions on this website.

It is the seller's responsibility to get the item to the buyer, so no I would not.

I would however do what we have done when we have had this issue you are having with our customers, I give them a full refund and eat the consignment cost too.

My opinion is completely unbiased and as a volume seller am just saying what I would and have done in the past.

[xavieronly1]

So many non-basketball faces tonight. At first, I thought I was in off-topic section.

[jj2]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Why are you as a moderator installing your opinion (again) rather than moderating as your job requires? It's just as likely someone at COMC stole the contents of the package as anything else you listed there.. that is the point here. Do you know of some special reason why COMC is immaculate in their work and other companies are not? It's not a loophole.. it's logic. If you cannot prove a statement.. the statement is invalid.

Your post here will only further fan flames in this thread and you completely miss the point of that.. again.

Probably because as far as I know there has not been any other issues like this with COMC and basic common sense should tell you they're probably not going to risk their business for the cards in question. Think about this rationally.

Based on actual real world events the most plausible scenarios are that you didn't send the cards (seems highly unlikely), someone at the post office stole them (also unlikely) or they simply got lost somewhere on their journey like a lot of other stuff that gets lost in the mail everyday.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

It is the seller's responsibility to get the item to the buyer, so no I would not.

I would however do what we have done when we have had this issue you are having with our customers, I give them a full refund and eat the consignment cost too.

My opinion is completely unbiased and as a volume seller am just saying what I would and have done in the past.

So you would completely ignore the fact that a 3rd party has this package and the buyer never saw the package with their own eyes a single time? You would (without question) compensate someone who could very well be scamming you? Logic seems to go out the window when it comes to issues with my name attached.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by jj2

Probably because as far as I know there has not been any other issues like this with COMC and basic common sense should tell you they're probably not going to risk their business for the cards in question. Think about this rationally.

Based on actual real world events the most plausible scenarios are that you didn't send the cards (seems highly unlikely), someone at the post office stole them (also unlikely) or they simply got lost somewhere on their journey like a lot of other stuff that gets lost in the mail everyday.

All those "what ifs" are why eBay and paypal did not find the the buyer's favor.. and never would.

I could continue your what ifs..... someone at COMC stole the contents (unlikely) someone at COMC damaged the items and wanted to cover their butt (unlikely) COMC is testing out a new scam to steal customers items (very unlikely)... should we continue these hypotheticals or go back to the real world my friend?

As for houdini.. he almost got fired recently for injecting himself into issues.. and he's doing it again. He cannot be both a member and a moderator... he seems to not get that.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

So many non-basketball faces tonight. At first, I thought I was in off-topic section.

Before I got sick of the bs on here I used to post in basketball all the time.. for what its worth lol

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Just curious.. would you guys be willing to offer that money to me had I lost this case? Considering I would not only be losing the $81 purchase price.. but also $3 in shipping cost / fee's and supplies... 13% of $78 in bids, and 80% of $78 to my consignment customer... would you all be lining up to compensate my nearly $200 loss at USPS's fault (since you all seem to think COMC is never wrong)? How about the 5 times they "lost" my packages in the last 6 months.. any donations for that? As I said.. love the unbiased opinions on this website.

How in the world do you lose $200 on an $81 consignment sale? I really want to hear this math.

Secondly, please quit cheap shotting Houdini....

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Awesome. Thats some quality cs right there. However has no trouble donating 100 dollars "right now" as stated a couple posts back

Op-gl if you choose to accept just pm me. I am headed out

I also stated this isn't about the money.. its about the merit. How would you feel if this thread lead to every person using COMC claiming some sort of damage on an eBay sale and started demanding refunds? It's things like that a seller has to protect themselves against. If you aren't extremely cynical when selling.. you will fail at internet dealing.

[wethenorth]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

So you would completely ignore the fact that a 3rd party has this package and the buyer never saw the package with their own eyes a single time? You would (without question) compensate someone who could very well be scamming you? Logic seems to go out the window when it comes to issues with my name attached.

you also ignore the fact that you shipped an empty envelope, or you didn't seal the envelope properly

Originally Posted by Imac7065

If you look at the pic, it's obviously that the package wasn't sealed properly.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

All those "what ifs" are why eBay and paypal did not find the the buyer's favor.. and never would.

I could continue your what ifs..... someone at COMC stole the contents (unlikely) someone at COMC damaged the items and wanted to cover their butt (unlikely) COMC is testing out a new scam to steal customers items (very unlikely)... should we continue these hypotheticals or go back to the real world my friend?

As for houdini.. he almost got fired recently for injecting himself into issues.. and he's doing it again. He cannot be both a member and a moderator... he seems to not get that.

If you are going to make defamatory state ya like that about COMC you better get yourself a lawyer.

Robert (iluvfish2) is a member and moderator.....hmmm!

[Yaga]

Thanks for all the offers everyone but it is really not fair for any of you to eat this cost!!! I appreciate the offers and support though, it's very nice of you all

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

How in the world do you lose $200 on an $81 consignment sale? I really want to hear this math.

Secondly, please quit cheap shotting Houdini....

I'm not cheap shotting anyone.. as stated by more than 10 members.. he can't keep injecting his opinions into disputes (unless it's to make a decision).. it's his job to moderate, not inflame.

as for your "math"... read the statement and add it up.. its $150-200. I net only about $5 (if that) on a $81 transaction. Money is absolutely not the point here however.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by Yaga

Thanks for all the offers everyone but it is really not fair for any of you to eat this cost!!! I appreciate the offers and support though, it's very nice of you all

You are a very patient and understanding person lol.. wish the trolls on this site would act the same my friend.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Here is the post that started my offer

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862660-post169.html

The pertinent port of the post...
I can search here for "Imac" and find 50 or more threads I never posted in where I am being trolled, attacked, or made fun of. You are taking part in many of those threads.

Here was my offer to you......how your demented mind somehow believes the number was $500.....and of course you will vanish just like EVERY time you are proven wrong.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862710-post177.html

For those not wanting to click the ling here is my offer to JEREMY FROM FLORIDA

Here is your chance to something good for someone else.

Please find these 50 or more threads and post links to them.
I will go through them and see if what you say is true. Because as we all know the truth shall set you free.

When it has been confirmed as true I will donate $25 to thebrokepoet's son Connor's donation page when we get to 50. I will add $2 for every thread above and beoynd 50 to a maximum donation of $100.

I will give you 24 hours to do so.

Ball is in your court Jeremy

Of course because you are lazy and never wrong you replied with this

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4862736-post181.html

Again for those not wanting to click

Blowout Cards Forums - Search Results

start counting and make that donation ASAP. Did you donate the $100 last time I did something like this?

All he did was do a search string with his name highlighted.

He did not provide links to 50 or more threads.

I STILL donated over $100 to Connor's Go Fund Me page after that because even though he didn't do what I asked I ALWAYS added extra to the donations.

I have posted this more than once and he has REFUSED to admit he was wrong.

If he even had ONE LEGIMATE issue I would be the 1st to admit I was wrong.

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Why are you as a moderator installing your opinion (again) rather than moderating as your job requires? It's just as likely someone at COMC stole the contents of the package as anything else you listed there.. that is the point here. Do you know of some special reason why COMC is immaculate in their work and other companies are not? It's not a loophole.. it's logic. If you cannot prove a statement.. the statement is invalid.

Your post here will only further fan flames in this thread and you completely miss the point of that.. again.

Hey.....care to address this?

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

If you are going to make defamatory state ya like that about COMC you better get yourself a lawyer.

Robert (iluvfish2) is a member and moderator.....hmmm!

member as in "I think....." in a public post. Robert does not inject his opinion on a subject.. he speaks on behalf of blowout (as a moderator) and explains situations. I have no issues (nor should anyone) in a moderator buying selling and trading. It's disputes they shouldn't inject themselves into. They become the issue when they do.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Hey.....care to address this?

You should be suspended but because you are making these statement to me.. you of course will not lol....

did you pay those debts? I may have the values wrong.. but the point remains... so "hey butt blister"... did you pay???


SMALL EDIT: Now that I am being reminded of that wonderfully non trolling thread (sarcasm)... what I actually searched at the time was his id along with mine (IE threads in which he replied to written or posted on by me).. it far exceeded the 50 post count he demanded for the bet. He's now saying because I did not literally post each thread to him.. he is not liable to pay his debt.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

Btw, if you think anyone can open this package without damage the opening sleeve, you need to reorder your bubble mailer. It is impossible to open a bubble mailer without damage the mailer if the glue works.

[Imac7065]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

Btw, if you think anyone can open this package without damage the opening sleeve, you need to reorder your bubble mailer. It is impossible to open a bubble mailer without damage the mailer if the glue works.

You would absolutely have to be doing this with purpose to not damage the package... but it's possible if done very carefully

[bethanyb1201]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

Btw, if you think anyone can open this package without damage the opening sleeve, you need to reorder your bubble mailer. It is impossible to open a bubble mailer without damage the mailer if the glue works.

I have starred at these pictures way longer than I want to admit. I have come to the conclusion that a mistake was made during packing. No way the flap opens that clean if glue is on the flap. Everyone makes mistakes so I am not blaming anyone but I believe this falls on the seller based on the pictures. THE SELLER IS A AWESOME EBAYER AND A MEMBER. Either its a faulty envelope or just a oversight during packing I would reimburse if it were me. I am basing this off the pictures of it open and me trying to open one of mine after I properly sealed it. Just my 2 cents as a long time ebayer with many thousands of cards shipped.

[bethanyb1201]

Originally Posted by Imac7065

ive done so many times... you lift the label (carefully or it ill tear) and lift the glue (again carefully or it will tear). You would absolutely have to be doing this with purpose to not damage the package though.. you are correct.

You got to realize the person who may have opened the envelope wouldn't have taken a lot of time. It would have been a smash and grab.