1997 Jordan PMG Green 1/10 up on eBay... - Page 14

NYFAN2014 · 01-08-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Why would someone use SGC on that card? Hmmmmm.

Well technically SGC is apart of the big 3 companies generally regarded in this hobby as experts. In my opinion, SGC has credibility and can be trusted. No company is 100% but we trust them to grade our cards and be fair.

I think it was the owner's preference I guess.

the27guy · 01-08-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NYFAN2014

Well technically SGC is apart of the big 3 companies generally regarded in this hobby as experts. In my opinion, SGC has credibility and can be trusted. No company is 100% but we trust them to grade our cards and be fair.

I think it was the owner's preference I guess.

I have a hard time believing that someone would go to SGC before PSA or BGS....

Having said that, it's going to sell for a lot of money.... and I hope you get it.

You need that in your collection man.

NYFAN2014 · 01-08-2019, 02:17 PM

Honestly not motivated to buy at this time. Market taking a dump.

SPauthentic84 · 01-08-2019, 02:19 PM

Any idea where the rumor started?

smalltown · 01-08-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Why would someone use SGC on that card? Hmmmmm.

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Originally Posted by the27guy

I have a hard time believing that someone would go to SGC before PSA or BGS....

I know a few guys who were big PSA guys (and they never liked BGS) who have begun using SGC since they started making their recent changes. New holder. New registry coming. Etc. They were fed up with PSAs service and wait times. Now these guys aren't all about resale so there's that. But I wouldn't discount SGC entirely.

KhalDrogo · 01-08-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NYFAN2014

Soooooo word on the street is that PWCC next month will auction off PMG Green MJ 1997 graded by SGC! Details I am sure will come out about grade but curious how much you guys think the card will go for about?

What serial #?

ThoseBackPages · 01-08-2019, 02:46 PM

If PSA says "no go" then BGS says "no go" you give your modern card to SGC

If PSA says "no go" then SGC says "no go" you give your vintage card to BVG

the27guy · 01-08-2019, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

I know a few guys who were big PSA guys (and they never liked BGS) who have begun using SGC since they started making their recent changes. New holder. New registry coming. Etc. They were fed up with PSAs service and wait times. Now these guys aren't all about resale so there's that. But I wouldn't discount SGC entirely.

I like their new cases too.... well, I haven't held one in person, but I think they look slick.

But yeah.... to grade the card and then list it for sale, I'm using PSA or BGS.

mfisher27 · 01-08-2019, 03:19 PM

Wasn't this is a PSA "authentic" holder at one point?

COMCMax · 01-08-2019, 03:23 PM

SGC 10 bringing more than PSA 10s.

1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan ROOKIE RC #57 SGC 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)

AlabamaSlamma · 01-08-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mfisher27

Wasn't this is a PSA "authentic" holder at one point?

If it’s 1/10, you are correct.

https://jordancards.com/blog/michael...-110-surfaces/

the27guy · 01-08-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

SGC 10 bringing more than PSA 10s.

1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan ROOKIE RC #57 SGC 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)

Does SGC not have a pristine designation anymore? 100 use to be Pristine and 98 was Gem Mint, right?

COMCMax · 01-08-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlabamaSlamma

If it’s 1/10, you are correct.

https://jordancards.com/blog/michael...-110-surfaces/

This card has the craziest back story. Didn't the guy that pulled it originally put the box up for sale?

COMCMax · 01-08-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Does SGC not have a pristine designation anymore? 100 use to be Pristine and 98 was Gem Mint, right?

I beleive they changed it towards the end of last year.

ThoseBackPages · 01-08-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

SGC 10 bringing more than PSA 10s.

1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan ROOKIE RC #57 SGC 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)

was Curt bidding?

dbird3312 · 01-08-2019, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

The real question is how many times will the auction be re-listed due to it being ruined by shillers and idiots.

That’s the question

therocket · 01-08-2019, 03:30 PM

I don’t understand why it wouldn’t be graded PSA or BGS? That’s kinda odd....and don’t give me the aesthetics of SGC, that’s bogus. If this is your card and you are selling I’m assuming you are getting some advice from super smart people, at no point do those super smart people say “you should have it graded by SGC”.

therocket · 01-08-2019, 03:32 PM

Course, maybe you’re not getting advice from anybody. At which point I don’t think anyone goes “I think I should have it graded by SGC”.

gomiamigo · 01-08-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by therocket

Course, maybe you’re not getting advice from anybody. At which point I don’t think anyone goes “I think I should have it graded by SGC”.

Not true.

I got my first mid/late-2000s rookie cards graded by SGC because their rep would stop by my LHS for pickups - mostly vintage obvs, but I saw no reason not to use them at the time of my return to the hobby.

therocket · 01-08-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Not true.

I got my first mid/late-2000s rookie cards graded by SGC because their rep would stop by my LHS for pickups - mostly vintage obvs, but I saw no reason not to use them at the time of my return to the hobby.

Fair enough.

superdan49 · 01-08-2019, 05:00 PM

I don't know how much basketball guys deal with SGC, but for vintage baseball (and I mean pre-war vintage), one of the benefits of grading with SGC is they will not list "trimmed" or "altered" on their flip, unlike PSA.

So if you have a T206 Ty Cobb, for example, which was slightly trimmed, PSA will brand it "Authentic" but the flip will read "trimmed" or "altered." With SGC, it would just write "A" on the flip, whether restored, trimmed, whatever. See here, for example:

Bottomline the SGC A label would make me suspicious of any card, but especially a modern one.

KhalDrogo · 01-08-2019, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

I don't know how much basketball guys deal with SGC, but for vintage baseball (and I mean pre-war vintage), one of the benefits of grading with SGC is they will not list "trimmed" or "altered" on their flip, unlike PSA.

Good to know.

Grading this card with SGC is a joke. If not for any reason other than the doubt it will raise about its authenticity and being free from alteration.

ThoseBackPages · 01-08-2019, 05:10 PM

no way it was not attempted with PSA & BGS first

6celtics33 · 01-08-2019, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NYFAN2014

Honestly not motivated to buy at this time. Market taking a dump.

Well there are 10 of them. Probably one of the only chances you’ll ever get.

Isn’t it a good time to buy if the market is taking a dump as you say?

AbraCalabro · 01-08-2019, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Well there are 10 of them. Probably one of the only chances you’ll ever get.

Isn’t it a good time to buy if the market is taking a dump as you say?

lmao, he's been spinning his wheels on "pulling the trigger" on a Lebron RPA for a while in that other price check thread that he keeps bumping every 6-8 months or whatever the rate of bumpage is.

By the way, I totally have the money to buy this Jordan PMG green and the Lebron RPA, but ehhh, I'm just going to continue to bump my price check threads instead.

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superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	I don't know how much basketball guys deal with SGC, but for vintage baseball (and I mean pre-war vintage), one of the benefits of grading with SGC is they will not list "trimmed" or "altered" on their flip, unlike PSA. So if you have a T206 Ty Cobb, for example, which was slightly trimmed, PSA will brand it "Authentic" but the flip will read "trimmed" or "altered." With SGC, it would just write "A" on the flip, whether restored, trimmed, whatever. See here, for example: Bottomline the SGC A label would make me suspicious of any card, but especially a modern one. __________________ Cardboard Detective Emeritus superdan49@protonmail.com — Anonymous Tip-line

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,441 ThoseBackPages	no way it was not attempted with PSA & BGS first __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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NYFAN2014 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 650	Honestly not motivated to buy at this time. Market taking a dump.

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COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	SGC 10 bringing more than PSA 10s. 1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan ROOKIE RC #57 SGC 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)

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therocket Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 521	I don’t understand why it wouldn’t be graded PSA or BGS? That’s kinda odd....and don’t give me the aesthetics of SGC, that’s bogus. If this is your card and you are selling I’m assuming you are getting some advice from super smart people, at no point do those super smart people say “you should have it graded by SGC”.

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therocket Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 521	Course, maybe you’re not getting advice from anybody. At which point I don’t think anyone goes “I think I should have it graded by SGC”.