The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-21/22 Edition

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by brock

Is there a worse broadcast team than the hornets? I used to loathe the warriors local team, but I think hornets guy has moved to #1 on my 'really dislike list'


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I noticed this yesterday. The color guy had a small fit that Giannis didn't get called for a tech on an offensive foul because Hayward had gotten one earlier... the main broadcaster pointed out that the tech on Hayward was because of his reaction after the call (which it was), but the color commentator just wouldn't accept it.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

I laugh at these posts.

1 - Embiid forces the defense into a zone.

2 - Embiid is open several times; but the passer doesn't pass to him.

3 - Embiid is bodying Brown. He's open. The passer isn't passing because its a trap in a zone so Embiid has to pass it out; but not his fault if he never gets the ball.

4 - Wide open layup (that misses), but the play was to pass it to the corner for the open 3.

lol. where? at what point is he 'open'?

and this is the 'wide open' layup you're referring to?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daeve

lol. where? at what point is he 'open'?

and this is the 'wide open' layup you're referring to?

I wouldn't call Embiid 'open', but there were a few moments he could have gotten a high entry pass...

Which is something he's benefitted his entire career from by having a 6'10" point guard. Not the case anymore.

[daeve]

btw Hawks are now 9-1 with Huerter starting instead of Hunter...as of now:

[Kirschner] The lineup of Young, Bogdanovic, Huerter, Collins and Capela has a net rating of 34.8. It’s the best 5-man lineup across the NBA with a minimum of 100 minutes played.

https://streamable.com/fzmowp

K'Von also dominating pressers now too.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

Wiggins is, and always has been, terrible. He's improved a lot on the surface, but he's playing in both an elite defensive and offensive system now. Poole's improvement on both ends has been the biggest reason for the Warriors winning this year.

While Wiggins is better at shot creation than Gordon, he also gets more open looks than Gordon. His efficiency has never taken notable strides because of his shot selection. People don't realize that Steph Curry pulls 2-3 defenders to his vicinity in transition whether he has the ball or not. That extreme gravity is in transition, but still exists in the half-court to lesser extent.

And it can not be emphasized enough how poor a rebounder and playmaker Wiggins is for a forward / wing player.

How do you get a 6'8 guy with 9 or 9.5 athleticism (out of 10) to have a barely noticeable rebound rate? You give him no motor and no ball sense (IQ).

Strong troll game here. If 49% and 37% from 3 is "terrible" then sign me up.

(I'm not a Wiggins guy for the record)

[daeve]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I wouldn't call Embiid 'open', but there were a few moments he could have gotten a high entry pass...

Which is something he's benefitted his entire career from by having a 6'10" point guard. Not the case anymore.

maybe, but Brown was doing well to keep him off-balance, and schroeder was playing his role perfectly too, the entry passer[s] were probably worried about Dennis stripping Embiid from behind as soon as he brought the ball down because he was only paying attention to Brown

[daeve]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

Wiggins is, and always has been, terrible. He's improved a lot on the surface, but he's playing in both an elite defensive and offensive system now. Poole's improvement on both ends has been the biggest reason for the Warriors winning this year.

While Wiggins is better at shot creation than Gordon, he also gets more open looks than Gordon. His efficiency has never taken notable strides because of his shot selection. People don't realize that Steph Curry pulls 2-3 defenders to his vicinity in transition whether he has the ball or not. That extreme gravity is in transition, but still exists in the half-court to lesser extent.

And it can not be emphasized enough how poor a rebounder and playmaker Wiggins is for a forward / wing player.

How do you get a 6'8 guy with 9 or 9.5 athleticism (out of 10) to have a barely noticeable rebound rate? You give him no motor and no ball sense (IQ).

I don't know about that... yes, I'm aware of Curry's gravity - I'm the one who shows up to tell the KD stans about how wrong they are that KD did anything but benefit from the W system / Curry gravity. ...but Gordon makes his living on offense by simply being taller / more athletic than Joker's other options. He's slowly getting better at it, but Jokic often has to stand there and direct Gordo with his eyes until he gets to the right spot for an easy Jokic dime.

[daeve]

I like these little 10-game graphics from KG



I feel like people are still sleeping on the Wolves a bit...

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by daeve

bigger yike than Embiid getting locked up by a 6'6 wing en route to a 3-17 night?

https://streamable.com/j9wy2i

Originally Posted by tennelson55

I laugh at these posts.

1 - Embiid forces the defense into a zone.

2 - Embiid is open several times; but the passer doesn't pass to him.

3 - Embiid is bodying Brown. He's open. The passer isn't passing because its a trap in a zone so Embiid has to pass it out; but not his fault if he never gets the ball.

4 - Wide open layup (that misses), but the play was to pass it to the corner for the open 3.

Originally Posted by daeve

lol. where? at what point is he 'open'?

and this is the 'wide open' layup you're referring to?

Should have gone with a swing to the corner and then Embiid breaks to the block for the entry pass. Instead, the top guys hold the ball, allowing Schroeder to stay on that backside of Embiid.

Easiest way to beat a zone is to pass the ball from side to side. I'm amazed at how easily NBA teams get confused when they see a zone.

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by indyguy

Should have gone with a swing to the corner and then Embiid breaks to the block for the entry pass. Instead, the top guys hold the ball, allowing Schroeder to stay on that backside of Embiid.

Easiest way to beat a zone is to pass the ball from side to side. I'm amazed at how easily NBA teams get confused when they see a zone.

That was such a boring game to watch. Neither of those teams play team basketball. What is the fifth 6er doing in that clip, Embiid going up against a 5 on 4.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by indyguy

Should have gone with a swing to the corner and then Embiid breaks to the block for the entry pass. Instead, the top guys hold the ball, allowing Schroeder to stay on that backside of Embiid.

Easiest way to beat a zone is to pass the ball from side to side. I'm amazed at how easily NBA teams get confused when they see a zone.

This is when the guy watching on the sidelines is supposed to say/change something. I didn't watch so idk if Doc made any adjustments, but given his track record, gonna think maybe not so much.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daeve

I like these little 10-game graphics from KG



I feel like people are still sleeping on the Wolves a bit...

See that big Wine and Gold "C" that's #3 in defense?

That 10 game span includes 4 games without Evan Mobley and 3 games without Jarrett Allen. Would love to see the metrics excluding those 4 games.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by daeve

lol. where? at what point is he 'open'?

and this is the 'wide open' layup you're referring to?

As soon as the cutter cuts; wide open for either a three or entry pass.



Wide open for seal or backdown/pass to the opposite corner.

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Seal and role or wide open three in the corner.

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Embiid misplays, but if he seals Jalen he's wide open for an Alley-oop dunk. If defender helps you have wide open three.



Yea; this wide open layup. He took the wrong number of dribbles to the rim...Dribble once and you can kick to the corner easily OR kick is after you dribble three times to the rim and force the corner defender to guard the layup instead of blocking you.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

As soon as the cutter cuts; wide open for either a three or entry pass.



Wide open for seal or backdown/pass to the opposite corner.

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Seal and role or wide open three in the corner.

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Embiid misplays, but if he seals Jalen he's wide open for an Alley-oop dunk. If defender helps you have wide open three.



Yea; this wide open layup. He took the wrong number of dribbles to the rim...Dribble once and you can kick to the corner easily OR kick is after you dribble three times to the rim and force the corner defender to guard the layup instead of blocking you.

I'd be a solid scout in the NBA for big men I think

[daeve]

Yeah maxey had a wide open lane for a second, but JB is much closer to the rim than he was... so a floater at the top of the paint would've been the best open shot, or a kick to the corner, sure.

as for the Embiid stills, I think your best argument is for a seal when he has Brown in front of him and Harris has the ball - that's a pass most pro wings should be able to make, given Embiid's height advantage, but it's still not a 'gimme' considering JB's athleticism/leaping ability - and Embiid didn't do much to give his passer confidence to make the pass

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by daeve

This is when the guy watching on the sidelines is supposed to say/change something. I didn't watch so idk if Doc made any adjustments, but given his track record, gonna think maybe not so much.

I didn't see it either.

I did watch the Warriors/Nets a couple weeks ago and the Warriors went with a triangle and 2 on Durant and Harden. They had no clue what to do.

[oshmeehan]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I noticed this yesterday. The color guy had a small fit that Giannis didn't get called for a tech on an offensive foul because Hayward had gotten one earlier... the main broadcaster pointed out that the tech on Hayward was because of his reaction after the call (which it was), but the color commentator just wouldn't accept it.

The technical on Hayward was due to it being a hostile act and making contact with Grayson's neck/head with his elbow. Not sure if the Hornets broadcast showed it, but the Bucks broadcast showed the crew chiefs review and that is what he called it.

Giannis didn't get a T for a hostile act as he only made contact with Bridges' chest.

Neither case was on purpose by either player IMO.

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by Dame

I found this btw

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherR...5Es1_&ref_url=

From MVP’s to cards and jerseys, the guy likes to collect.

WOW He will have a nice fallback

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by oshmeehan

The technical on Hayward was due to it being a hostile act and making contact with Grayson's neck/head with his elbow. Not sure if the Hornets broadcast showed it, but the Bucks broadcast showed the crew chiefs review and that is what he called it.

Giannis didn't get a T for a hostile act as he only made contact with Bridges' chest.

Neither case was on purpose by either player IMO.

Then the other announcer didn't know what was going on.

Regardless, they were bickering back and forth and it seemed like a mess. And that's besides the point you pointed out... Giannis' foul was to the chest so there was no need for anything but a common foul call.

[oshmeehan]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Then the other announcer didn't know what was going on.

Regardless, they were bickering back and forth and it seemed like a mess. And that's besides the point you pointed out... Giannis' foul was to the chest so there was no need for anything but a common foul call.

Haha yes, either way one of them was wrong about it

[oshmeehan]

In other Bucks' news......Brook Lopez just had back surgery today with no timetable for a return. Definitely explains the Cousins signing.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by brock

Is there a worse broadcast team than the hornets? I used to loathe the warriors local team, but I think hornets guy has moved to #1 on my 'really dislike list'

I've said this myself before. It's one thing to be excited for your team, it's another to be an insufferable knob. The Raptors have a similar guy but he's nowhere near as loud and obnoxious. I'm happy to watch Lamelo when I get a chance, but that's a bit put off.

[cboog3105]

Boston Charlotte Miami have the worst announcers if you ask me

They get too homer-y alot of the time

[Bulls90s]

Congrats to Evan Mobley...well deserved. He missed games, too.

https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/releas...ley-rom-211202

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Jarrett Allen is Nick Chubb

He’s back!!!!!!!!!