WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1696

asujbl · 08-25-2023, 01:20 PM

WWE missed a golden opportunity for the Wyatt Family (as it was still the whole family) going over Cena back in 2014

It didn't have to last long obviously, but the whole "era of lies", was awesome and you really did believe they were a cult and he was the leader. He should have been the top dog for at least a little while. Could have opened up all types of storylines for Cena. Instead he wasn't a "monster" he just Hulk'd up instead. It was lame

I get why they didn't... money is always the answer

But man would that have been fun to watch them win instead of Cena doing his usual

I enjoyed a lot of what he did after but they finally had the cult leader gimmick right after messing up in the 90's and early 2000's

I'm sure I'm in the minority as I was a casual fan then. Still am. Wyatt was worth watching though

thenightman · 08-25-2023, 05:44 PM

Windham was probably the most creative guy WWE had in decades. Some of his ideas were hits, some misses, but you could never doubt that he had creativity and gave everything he had to his characters. We'll forever wonder what could have been and he'll be missed.

packman80 · 08-25-2023, 06:09 PM

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Windham was probably the most creative guy WWE had in decades. Some of his ideas were hits, some misses, but you could never doubt that he had creativity and gave everything he had to his characters. We'll forever wonder what could have been and he'll be missed.

Do agree with this. Seems though his main issue was he was to protective over his character which seemed at times to cause issues with the bosses.

I felt when he returned he was interesting until they were trying to go back to his old firefly funhouse stuff.

Though his best stuff was with the Wyatt Family

packman80 · 08-25-2023, 07:04 PM

Nice that they brought in Rowen and Strowman for tonight.

jmarascojr · 08-25-2023, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Do agree with this. Seems though his main issue was he was to protective over his character which seemed at times to cause issues with the bosses.

I felt when he returned he was interesting until they were trying to go back to his old firefly funhouse stuff.

Though his best stuff was with the Wyatt Family

With most things Bray, we don’t know what the end game was and unfortunately we now never will.
You definitely needed to have patience to be a fan…

The bits and pieces that have come out, to me, would have been fun.
His brother being Uncle Howdy, Alexa Bliss getting involved (before she got pregnant), Eric Young being one of the FFFH characters and the others.

I truly think he would’ve come back and been involved with Cody somehow, that to me would’ve been awesome, promo/skit wise…

packman80 · 08-25-2023, 08:26 PM

Calling that a Terry Funk Hardcore match was a insult.

Dacubs · 08-25-2023, 08:34 PM

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Calling that a Terry Funk Hardcore match was a insult.

where were the weapons, where was the cowbell, whips, chains??

thenightman · 08-25-2023, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Do agree with this. Seems though his main issue was he was to protective over his character which seemed at times to cause issues with the bosses.

I felt when he returned he was interesting until they were trying to go back to his old firefly funhouse stuff.

Though his best stuff was with the Wyatt Family

I imagine most creatively eccentric people are protective of their creations. For one, I respect the fact that he'd fight hard for his characters and stories, even if it bit him in the ass. He had principles and a vision. You can't blame him for standing strong.

He knew that he was a toy in Vince's sandbox, but he fought to determine the type of toy it was.

packman80 · 08-25-2023, 08:57 PM

Strange main event no JD or Miz involvement just a clean match between the two.

sthoemke · 08-26-2023, 12:33 AM

UFC-WWE Merger Could Close As Early As September 12

JustinVerlander07 · 08-26-2023, 07:38 AM

Such beautiful tributes for Bray.

marl1220 · 08-26-2023, 03:12 PM

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I never go by early internet doctor reports so we'll wait for an official report not his uncle's wife's sister's daughter's dog said he had a heart attack.

JustinVerlander07 · 08-28-2023, 07:58 PM

Terrific promo by Miz.

Cardboard Dawg · 08-28-2023, 10:38 PM

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Terrific promo by Miz.

Went to RAW tonight and in-person, I was fooled until I saw him walk up the ring

I felt really stupid thinking I was cheering for LA Knight

But that’s on top of all the stupid things I’ve done today. Seems like a great cherry on top

PLB9eight · 08-29-2023, 07:37 AM

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Terrific promo by Miz.

Took me back to DX impersonating the nation of domination

packman80 · 08-29-2023, 07:55 AM

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Went to RAW tonight and in-person, I was fooled until I saw him walk up the ring

I felt really stupid thinking I was cheering for LA Knight

But that’s on top of all the stupid things I’ve done today. Seems like a great cherry on top

Missed the show guess I will have to youtube it. Did he fool the fans by coming out to his music and wearing his gear like he did when he pretended to be the rock and had fans actually thinking it was him for a bit.

brothertona · 08-29-2023, 09:21 AM

I'm expecting some cuts, but I could also see WWE afterwards start hiring again heavy. They'll have the pockets to really influence the market again.

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UFC-WWE Merger Could Close As Early As September 12

packman80 · 08-29-2023, 09:34 AM

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I'm expecting some cuts, but I could also see WWE afterwards start hiring again heavy. They'll have the pockets to really influence the market again.

Don't think they need to hire anyone. Think the roster is fine as is. Can always make NXT callups if needed. Don't want to become like AEW with a bloated roster full of guys who many are never used. Outside of maybe getting a big name guy like MJF or Will Osprey to come in don't see point in adding anyone.

brothertona · 08-29-2023, 09:39 AM

That's more of what I expect, and what I meant by influencing the market.

no10pin · 08-29-2023, 12:25 PM

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Missed the show guess I will have to youtube it. Did he fool the fans by coming out to his music and wearing his gear like he did when he pretended to be the rock and had fans actually thinking it was him for a bit.

Miz was incredible in this one! He deserves more than being jobbed out to everyone on the roster.

natbornkiller · 08-29-2023, 05:49 PM

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Miz was incredible in this one! He deserves more than being jobbed out to everyone on the roster.

sad but true

packman80 · 08-29-2023, 06:15 PM

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Miz was incredible in this one! He deserves more than being jobbed out to everyone on the roster.

LOL a name you could find on Cinamax at 2am in 1997. Miz is still at top of his game on the mic.

thenightman · 08-29-2023, 07:56 PM

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I'm expecting some cuts, but I could also see WWE afterwards start hiring again heavy. They'll have the pockets to really influence the market again.

From what I hear it's all desk jobs that will be eliminated, not talent.

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Miz was incredible in this one! He deserves more than being jobbed out to everyone on the roster.

I don't want to hear anybody ever talk bad about the Miz again. This is the stuff he can do at the drop of a hat. Don't tell me WWE can't pull the trigger on him at any time and it be legit.

packman80 · 08-29-2023, 08:09 PM

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From what I hear it's all desk jobs that will be eliminated, not talent.

I don't want to hear anybody ever talk bad about the Miz again. This is the stuff he can do at the drop of a hat. Don't tell me WWE can't pull the trigger on him at any time and it be legit.

Miz needs a run with the IC title again. Once it goes off Gunther it needs to find it's way to Miz shortly thereafter. Want to see Miz get 10 reigns with the title so he breaks Jericho's record of 9.

thenightman · 08-29-2023, 08:51 PM

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Miz needs a run with the IC title again. Once it goes off Gunther it needs to find it's way to Miz shortly thereafter. Want to see Miz get 10 reigns with the title so he breaks Jericho's record of 9.

I'm completely on board with this.

08-25-2023, 01:20 PM	#42376
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,928 ohiosundevils	WWE missed a golden opportunity for the Wyatt Family (as it was still the whole family) going over Cena back in 2014 It didn't have to last long obviously, but the whole "era of lies", was awesome and you really did believe they were a cult and he was the leader. He should have been the top dog for at least a little while. Could have opened up all types of storylines for Cena. Instead he wasn't a "monster" he just Hulk'd up instead. It was lame I get why they didn't... money is always the answer But man would that have been fun to watch them win instead of Cena doing his usual I enjoyed a lot of what he did after but they finally had the cult leader gimmick right after messing up in the 90's and early 2000's I'm sure I'm in the minority as I was a casual fan then. Still am. Wyatt was worth watching though __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

08-26-2023, 12:33 AM	#42385
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08-26-2023, 07:38 AM	#42386
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,122 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	Such beautiful tributes for Bray. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

08-28-2023, 07:58 PM	#42388
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,122 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	Terrific promo by Miz. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

08-25-2023, 05:44 PM	#42377
thenightman Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 6,657	Windham was probably the most creative guy WWE had in decades. Some of his ideas were hits, some misses, but you could never doubt that he had creativity and gave everything he had to his characters. We'll forever wonder what could have been and he'll be missed.

08-25-2023, 07:04 PM	#42379
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,076	Nice that they brought in Rowen and Strowman for tonight.

08-25-2023, 08:26 PM	#42381
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,076	Calling that a Terry Funk Hardcore match was a insult.

08-25-2023, 08:57 PM	#42384
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,076	Strange main event no JD or Miz involvement just a clean match between the two.

08-29-2023, 09:39 AM	#42394
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,957 brothertona1	That's more of what I expect, and what I meant by influencing the market.