Target Online Sales Thread

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Waiting for Topps and Panini to ask themselves, why are we allowing these groups to work as proxy distributors we didn't choose to work with? We should be getting a larger cut.

Neither company has the Infrastructure to take on that large of a direct market.

[NickyCards]

Saw 4 boxes stacked behind customer service at Target. They said in store pickup will be the new way of purchasing them, with valid ID.

[Charmcity81]

No bots, discord groups and etc. Every individual is on the same playing field. Pretty sure, 90% of people who cheat the system.
There income would be destroyed, probably have to get a real job. We all know the product will still sell out. Early 2019 anyone could hop on target or Walmart to purchase retail . Funny, how influencers change the game. Just imagine - if bots were crushing the game back then - all resellers would be millionaire’s now !


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[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by NickyCards

Saw 4 boxes stacked behind customer service at Target. They said in store pickup will be the new way of purchasing them, with valid ID.

Sounds like we'll get an online drop soon

[Charmcity81]

These companies do have the infrastructure. BOT’s can only do so much. The other side has it very easy. You don’t understand, the overall landscape. Reality, there internal team does not have to change anything up. Why, all they need to do is look at the orders. The bot creators our fake hackers, minor leaguers. Why, they can’t manipulate time of purchase. Your telling me a threat hunter, can’t notice - 100’s orders going to the same mailing address, or numerous diff ones. That person placed 70 orders in 1 min. VPN, proxies will not outsmart there team.
there experts,

Doesn’t the customer want the product, you can only outsmart to certain extent.


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[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by Charmcity81

These companies do have the infrastructure. BOT’s can only do so much. The other side has it very easy. You don’t understand, the overall landscape. Reality, there internal team does not have to change anything up. Why, all they need to do is look at the orders. The bot creators our fake hackers, minor leaguers. Why, they can’t manipulate time of purchase. Your telling me a threat hunter, can’t notice - 100’s orders going to the same mailing address, or numerous diff ones. That person placed 70 orders in 1 min. VPN, proxies will not outsmart there team.
there experts,

Doesn’t the customer want the product, you can only outsmart to certain extent.


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So why are they not stopping them? Costs? Apathy?

[Charmcity81]

I know these individuals personally, it’s some crazy stuff. The level he is at, projects he was brought into because there network systems got really hacked. Target and Walmart have internal employees on there team who do the same exact thing. Only difference these individuals feel more comfortable being an employee. Get pigeon hole, your looking at code all day. Your skill level is on a whole diff level, it’s the path you choose to advance your career. In cyber security, there our so many ways to focus in. It’s crazy, how big cyber security is. Everyone in the DC area want to enter that field $$$. Less 10% our really true threat hunters, my guy told me that’s the cool name they use now. That position or rule has been around for years, but recently became really hot. Being a threat hunter doesn’t mean you know what your doing or looking for.

If Walmart or Target really got hacked, they our hiring a consultant firm to Analyze, collect the data, to determine the attack or threat. Which Walmart and Target already know the answer. Any major company that gets hacked, always hired outside experts

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[scooter260]

Got an email alert that NHL Series 2 Mega were back in stock. Got to site 4 mins after email....long gone.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Sure is. That's why I asked earlier, where do you draw the line on what is OK to not follow on the Terms of Service? Because I guarantee there's some crap in there that you would think is ok to ignore

I’m not white knighting bots.

What they are doing is not allowed by Target. There is no justifying it.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by NickyCards

Saw 4 boxes stacked behind customer service at Target. They said in store pickup will be the new way of purchasing them, with valid ID.

For real?

Past page is a bunch of comments saying pick up in store probably isnt feasible solution unless they build out a new system.

They say anything else?






I just caught some UFC blasters on the shelf at my Target.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by Charmcity81

Yes, if using a bot. Developer’s hacked the computer network. The key is that they were not given permission to break into the system.

You’re talking nonsense. Prove the botters are inside Target’s systems and I’ll buy you a beer at the National*.
(I won’t be at the National, but I won’t have to buy you a beer either, so it’s all good.)

[mcb0419]

Originally Posted by scooter260

Got an email alert that NHL Series 2 Mega were back in stock. Got to site 4 mins after email....long gone.

Me too- think I was quick enough to check out but haven’t been collecting anything but the YGs and didn’t feel like Kaprizov hunting


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[jduds]

Originally Posted by BBases31

You don't understand what that is either. There is no price fixing occurring. There are hundreds to thousands of people who get the boxes and then put them up for sale. Those hundreds to thousands of people do not collude to fix a price on the secondary. They put them up for sale on the secondary market and the price settles to where boxes will actually sell. The market sets the price

I think we both understand what the words mean fine, but disagree as to how the current retail market works. Your description is how things should be happening, but bot users are concentrating the product in a substantially smaller number of hands than you are giving them credit for. The death of walk-in retail will further exacerbate the problem. I'd imagine that 95% of the product will end up in the hands of under 100 individuals or groups. Monopolies don't have to rely on price fixing to create high prices, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if these groups coordinate to some degree.

[thenightman]

I'm starting to think that misusing "our" and "there" is a gimmick.

[molly1984]

so this thread is for Target stock discussions only?

the other thread is strictly for Target stock alerts? https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1466895

and then another thread is only for walmart and other store stock info? https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1466591

I saw the other main post we used to have got shut down so just trying to keep track of what's goin on here. now yall are having me check 3 places for info

[Charmcity81]

You’re talking nonsense. Prove the botters are inside Target’s systems and I’ll buy you a beer at the National*.
(I won’t be at the National, but I won’t have to buy you a beer either, so it’s all good.)
salthill is online now

Easiest way ! Web crawlers running in the background. Programmers our scripting text commands, once the commands, variables can be filled with the information inside the source code. Loop, queries could be the foundation, commands repeat to until certain value reach. Developers work together in the comments - are entered in
The source code, future other developers can understand parts of the code in the future.


Bottom line - developers write programs in order to provide a solution. They deff wrote a program that provides a solution. Is it ethical.

This is what they create. If you go to anyone of the major bots website. It’s pretty much saying our package provides.
Alerts or pings ASAP if any new product or restock hits. The big give away, how would the members be able to order 5-8 min before the public see’s the URL live. Ever wonder when a normal person try’s to score, if your lucky you might have 1 min to score. Yes, it’s in the system. Every major company integrates with any API. Pretty sure, it’s non complacence. Trust me, any major company if you want to
Integrate your API into there system,
You have to sign agreement !


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[Charmcity81]

It’s not cost, there just like any other security company, there lazy. They know the problem. Wonder why you hear about huge networks getting hacked all the time !

Trust me, those companies do not want to be expose on the news, well stop being lazy

Crazy to hear the top security companies having there own software, network or products getting hacked and exposed.

Just like a bot developer they understand the mind site, of the companies who create, manage, and monitor the network. Doesn’t mean those individuals our more talented, there one step ahead, and will never change sadly.

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[ATeamHasNoName]

Heritage hangers at my target. It’s no ufc


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[mma138]

Got 2 ufc blasters just now at target.that was the limit.

[Doc Awesome]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

Sounds like we'll get an online drop soon

Uhh...who said this thread was still about target restocks??? It’s now a platform for bot apologists to obfuscate and justify their actions.

Probably just trying to buy time and distract us from the target drop tomorrow so there’s less competition!

[ATeamHasNoName]

Originally Posted by Doc Awesome

Uhh...who said this thread was still about target restocks??? It’s now a platform for bot apologists to obfuscate and justify their actions.

Probably just trying to buy time and distract us from the target drop tomorrow so there’s less competition!

Uhh...who said this thread was still about speaking in clear coherent sentences??? It’s now a platform for rambling on.

Probably just trying to buy time and distract us from the target drop tomorrow so there’s less competition!


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[thenightman]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Neither company has the Infrastructure to take on that large of a direct market.

I’m not suggesting they try and take all the profits for themselves. I’m suggesting that they eat into the profits bots are making by raising the price of retail....or just mass produce the product.

Doesn’t matter much anyways, wax market is dying.

[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Kinda hard to compare now when every Target was doing limits, virtually every Meijer, and a good portion of Walmarts. On top of that, I'm sure most Walmarts that everything makes it on to the shelves is a minimum 3 or 4 way split of almost every week under $1,000 worth of sports cards.

I’m a vendor also, I could get whatever I want if my accounts offered them.


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[jkampis]

Originally Posted by Archimedes

Wow, reading this is really something. I've never used a bot and wish there were no bots, but I don't understand the ethical arguments at all. Rules don't define ethics by virtue of the fact that they're rules. Just because a store makes a rule doesn't mean that it's somehow knitted moral fabric. If Target were to say that everyone who enters needs to wear a red hat, and you enter without a red hat, are you being unethical? What if a store mandated that you engage in an unethical act upon entry? Are you being unethical if you don't do that unethical act because that's what the store told you to do?

I feel dumber after having just read that. Maybe if I put on a red hat I’ll feel smarter.

[Archimedes]

Originally Posted by jkampis

I feel dumber after having just read that. Maybe if I put on a red hat I’ll feel smarter.

Sorry it's over your head.