Rolling Thread: Trimmed & Altered Basketball Cards in PWCC's May Auction - Page 2

Siberian13 · 05-06-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Keep giving BGS and PSA and PWCC your money guys!

Excuses time....and go!!!!!

gomiamigo · 05-06-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

If it’s the same people, they figured that how to do that really fast. I actually believe that this auction was closed for consignments before most of the recent threads here. Therefore, I think there’s more than 4 trimmers.

Why would you assume they haven't been doing it all along?

mk6283 · 05-06-2019, 12:45 PM

My main concern is: how do we know that trimming is not rampant in the vintage card market (e.g., Jordan rookies, Wilt rookies, Russell rookies, etc.) where there are no serial numbers to leave this sort of paper trail? The same concern applies to modern cards that are also not serial numbered. These offenders are unlikely to get caught. Vintage cards also happen to be the most common cards that we see auctioned off on sites like PWCC and they see large jumps in price for each level bump in grade that they receive. This is the main reason why I have, for the most part, steered clear of paying for high grade examples of cards with higher print runs and have instead focused my PC on rare cards with short print runs.

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SaveMeTheGum · 05-06-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mk6283

My main concern is: how do we know that trimming is not rampant in the vintage card market (e.g., Jordan rookies, Wilt rookies, Russell rookies, etc.) where there are no serial numbers to leave this sort of paper trail? The same concern applies to modern cards that are also not serial numbered. These offenders are unlikely to get caught. Vintage cards also happen to be the most common cards that we see auctioned off on sites like PWCC and they see large jumps in price for each level bump in grade that they receive. This is the main reason why I have, for the most part, steered clear of paying for high grade examples of cards with higher print runs and have instead focused my PC on rare cards with short print runs.

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It is terribly rampant in vintage and there are ways to tell. This thread is blowing up!:

‘52 Mantle PWCC auction

Starman101 · 05-06-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

It is terribly rampant in vintage and there are ways to tell. This thread is blowing up!:

‘52 Mantle PWCC auction

Just read both this thread and the 52 Mantle thread

Unreal how greedy people can be

This is just downright awful

PWCC Marketplace · 05-06-2019, 04:14 PM

Thank you for calling attention to this. All these items were ended, and we will review the evidence presented against the physical cards. If we confirm that the cards were altered we will work through our process with the grading company and with the submitter. Details of this process will be included in our Marketplace Tenets which will be released in the coming weeks.

NoleinJax · 05-09-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

Thank you for calling attention to this. All these items were ended, and we will review the evidence presented against the physical cards. If we confirm that the cards were altered we will work through our process with the grading company and with the submitter. Details of this process will be included in our Marketplace Tenets which will be released in the coming weeks.

Copypasta

gomiamigo · 05-09-2019, 01:13 PM

Can't wait to read about your process for dealing with altered cards and their submitters, and the graders.

05-06-2019, 12:45 PM	#28
mk6283 Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 514 mksportscards	My main concern is: how do we know that trimming is not rampant in the vintage card market (e.g., Jordan rookies, Wilt rookies, Russell rookies, etc.) where there are no serial numbers to leave this sort of paper trail? The same concern applies to modern cards that are also not serial numbered. These offenders are unlikely to get caught. Vintage cards also happen to be the most common cards that we see auctioned off on sites like PWCC and they see large jumps in price for each level bump in grade that they receive. This is the main reason why I have, for the most part, steered clear of paying for high grade examples of cards with higher print runs and have instead focused my PC on rare cards with short print runs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Collector of MJ, Gretzky, Jeter, Favre, 90s, Golds, and more. Instagram: @mksportscards

05-09-2019, 01:13 PM	#33
gomiamigo Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: in your head Posts: 11,034 esmoney gomiamigo	Can't wait to read about your process for dealing with altered cards and their submitters, and the graders. __________________ IG: KevinDurant35Cards

05-06-2019, 04:14 PM	#31
PWCC Marketplace Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 56 pwcc_auctions	Thank you for calling attention to this. All these items were ended, and we will review the evidence presented against the physical cards. If we confirm that the cards were altered we will work through our process with the grading company and with the submitter. Details of this process will be included in our Marketplace Tenets which will be released in the coming weeks.