misleading ebay titles - Page 2

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

by you won admission you said you COULD HAVE CLAIMED damage.

no one said you DID commit fraud, simply that you COULD have

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

YOu did not pay 45 for the item you left the neg for.

ah yes I did. it was an offer! you speak without knowing. good job.

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

In this case if I was the buyer I would go on with life because the seller did nothing wrong I would just eat it and relist. We all make mistakes this one is not on the seller. I also offer 30 day free returns so in this case I would accept the return and follow the process then let Eaby deal with the buyer once I report them.

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

ah yes I did. it was an offer! you speak without knowing. good job.

I am looking at the listing.. That is weird the Ebay page is not showing anything close to 45.00 for the sale on the item he left a neg for but when I look at it in the feedback it is showing 45.00.

Again though there is no mention of Sapphire anywhere in the listing if it showed in your search that is an Ebay issue not the seller and if they do not offer returns they are not required to take it for the reason that you give. If he does offer returns then your reason is acceptable but he would be allowed to deduct shipping and possibly a restocking fee.

glen87 · 02-23-2020, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

here is how much of a "headache" i am

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Panini...gAAOSwHwReEjSf

i bought this for $25 when it first came out.

they now go for under $10. i took a gamble that it was going to be an sp, and lost. guess what - i still have the card / seller has positive FB, and i am ok with that since i was the one who took the gamble. could easily still return it, but i am not.

go ahead and block me, but i have not blocked you (yet).

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

Nope not going to get into a pissing contest with a potential problem bidder. It never works out well for the seller.

If I were the seller I would call Ebay and have it removed and your account get a strike on it. So you are not willing to be a man and admit you made a mistake. This was not the sellers mistake.

Just like where you left a seller a neutral because you wanted item shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules that seller could have easily had it removed. He was in the right for canceling.

You need to be a man and own your mistakes instead of punishing others for them

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=glen87;15583109]here is how much of a "headache" i am

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Panini...gAAOSwHwReEjSf

i bought this for $25 when it first came out.

they now go for under $10. i took a gamble that it was going to be an sp, and lost. guess what - i still have the card / seller has positive FB, and i am ok with that since i was the one who took the gamble. could easily still return it, but i am not.

I do the same so what? I told you I don't return cards I buy. I average out what I pay cause I buy 20-100 of what I want esp autos.

Cavaliercards · 02-23-2020, 11:05 PM

Not listed as sapphire, not sublisted. Willing to say it is damaged when it is not?

What is all of this??

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

LOL. We can all see the listing. There is zero mention of sapphire this is an Ebay search issue not the seller.

glen87 · 02-23-2020, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:07 PM

Where excatly in the listing does it say sapphire? There is no subtitle.

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

Same here. I can count on one hand the number of negs and neutrals I have left in over 15K transactions.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

LOL. We can all see the listing. There is zero mention of sapphire this is an Ebay search issue not the seller.

man I wish you were in front of me. here's what I paid detective. tell me again what I paid

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

man I wish you were in front of me. here's what I paid detective. tell me again what I paid

LOL threats now.

Did you not read where I admitted that error the Ebay listing that is showing when it comes up on Ebay does not show it as 45.00. When you click on the listing.

I was man enough to admit that mistake.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

Same here. I can count on one hand the number of negs and neutrals I have left in over 15K transactions.

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

LOL threats now.

Did you not read where I admitted that error the Ebay listing that is showing when it comes up on Ebay does not show it as 45.00. When you click on the listing.

I was man enough to admit that mistake.

but you came at me like im guilty of something bad. so if you see it as a winning bid and it wasn't ebay, couldn't have done the same with sapphire showing subbed? or its only my mistake?

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

81 just shows the feedback does not indicate number if items bought. However my numbers are a bit more than that.

salthill · 02-23-2020, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

Is anyone else annoyed that ebay allows sellers to sub title names or cards their items aren't and you accidentally buy one? Well I did and sent a simple message and return request. As a seller I would accept the return if I had a misleading subtitle. well I was refused and declined with no message to two messages sent. I could've said it was damaged and guaranteed my money back but it wasn't damaged. ill get my money back but I have to go through my bank and its a pain. I don't ask or return cards at all unless theres damaged not decsribed or shown in picture(s). Card was a draft blue refractor with sapphire as a sub and was in my search tilted 2019 bowman sapphire.

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman...p2047675.l2557

Do you look at the photos of items you’re buying, or just buy them straight off the listing? (Well, in this case not even the listing, just the eBay search results.)

glen87 · 02-23-2020, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

me - 5,208 Feedback received as a buyer

you - 5,506 Feedback received as a buyer

total seems pretty close to me

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

but you came at me like im guilty of something bad. so if you see it as a winning bid and it wasn't ebay couldn't have done the same with sapphire showing subbed? or its only my mistake?

We have been saying it could have been either an Ebay mistake or a buyer mistake but there is nothing showing the seller did anything wrong.

The seller does not use subs in their other listings so why would they do it on one. Subs show on completed items and there is clearly not one in this listing. Regardless you are responsible for knowing what you are purchasing. If I buy something by mistake I own it. I don't blame the seller.

You said you could have said the item was damaged to force the return that is fraud. You left a seller a neutral for cancelling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules, I would have canceled as well and called Ebay when you negged me and had it removed..

You tried to scam a member here in 2018.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

cwcardz4u · 02-23-2020, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by glen87

me - 5,208 Feedback received as a buyer

you - 5,506 Feedback received as a buyer

total seems pretty close to me

that funny. what you buy and I buy isn't the same. last year according to your stats is 81.

Cavaliercards · 02-23-2020, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

Tonight's seller mentioned in the original post had no business getting a negative or neutral.

shrevecity · 02-23-2020, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcardz4u

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

HOWEVER your negs and neutrals appear to be for your issues. Like leaving a seller a neutral for something you admit was your mistake or leaving the seller a neutral for canceling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. Or leaving a neg and admitting you could have committed return fraud. Frankly if you made an offer on an item and I saw that I would not sell to you. Bad feedback left can hurt the buyer more than the seller. I look at feedback left on the buyer on any offer I get before I accept.

chezball · 02-23-2020, 11:22 PM

Another one on my BBL and the OP won't be around much longer.

02-23-2020, 11:05 PM	#33
Cavaliercards Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 30,892 cavaliercards	Not listed as sapphire, not sublisted. Willing to say it is damaged when it is not? What is all of this?? __________________ Always Buying: Vintage and Tobacco Cards Follow us on Twitter AND Instagram: @Cavaliercards

02-23-2020, 11:07 PM	#36
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,051	Where excatly in the listing does it say sapphire? There is no subtitle.

02-23-2020, 11:22 PM	#50
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,686 jabber	Another one on my BBL and the OP won't be around much longer.