Rumor that Josh Luber is being forced out of Fanatics

[Bcr]

Taking this with a grain of salt until we get an official statement.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by rms13

My thoughts are who cares?

This sounds about right. Who is he and why would I care?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

This sounds about right. Who is he and why would I care?

I mean, it should matter to hobbyists who is in charge of the sports card division of the company who just forced a monopoly on the industry. Regardless of what position you take on Fanatics, it is undeniable that what they do will have a major impact on you as a collector.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Oriole Way

Wait, did he partner with them before or after the Kaboom fiasco?

After. He also said Gary V is one of most important people in the hobby world… after Vee Friends! His support of that junk was embarrassing.

I’m hoping the news is true. I haven’t like anything that I’ve heard from him so far. He’s a guy you want around when the money is pouring in and you just need new ideas on how to drain the pockets of people new to collecting. With the hobby firmly in the post Covid boom phase, I don’t think he’s the right person to lead the card market.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I mean, it should matter to hobbyists who is in charge of the sports card division of the company who just forced a monopoly on the industry. Regardless of what position you take on Fanatics, it is undeniable that what they do will have a major impact on you as a collector.

Yes, especially if he was the big driving force behind it and the business plans. Future impact could be large if true.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I mean, it should matter to hobbyists who is in charge of the sports card division of the company who just forced a monopoly on the industry. Regardless of what position you take on Fanatics, it is undeniable that what they do will have a major impact on you as a collector.

Not really, the individual collector is in charge of what their hobby is. The flipper should care. Nobody at topps/fanatics is in charge of what my hobby is.

[LVDan]

Is this the guy who craps on everyone while golfing with spittle lips? Im admittedly out of touch with who most of these people are.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by JRX

Not really, the individual collector is in charge of what their hobby is. The flipper should care. Nobody at topps/fanatics is in charge of what my hobby is.

I never said anyone was in charge of your personal collecting. But if you collect anything that has yet to be released, rest assured, whether you choose to admit it or not, what Fanatics does will affect you in one way or another. That is not debatable.

[msink28]

Agreed, he's a strong source.

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Owner/founder of FCB

Pretty strong source

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I mean, it should matter to hobbyists who is in charge of the sports card division of the company who just forced a monopoly on the industry. Regardless of what position you take on Fanatics, it is undeniable that what they do will have a major impact on you as a collector.

Zero impact on me. I only buy singles after the gamblers over pay and then dump for cheap to pay their credit debts.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I never said anyone was in charge of your personal collecting. But if you collect anything that has yet to be released, rest assured, whether you choose to admit it or not, what Fanatics does will affect you in one way or another. That is not debatable.

It’s being debated here.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Zero impact on me. I only buy singles after the gamblers over pay and then dump for cheap to pay their credit debts.

Doesn't matter. If you intend to buy what Fanatics makes, regardless of when or at what price, it WILL affect you. What if they only make product you don't like at all? I have a feeling that will affect what you buy. It's absurd to suggest that the company making the product you intend to buy will have no affect on what you buy. I don't even understand how you can possibly think that's true.

[ThoseBackPages]

who??

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

It’s being debated here.

Not really. Saying "it won't affect me" is not debating anything. Tell me how what Fanatics does with cards, since they will literally be the only company with the license, won't affect you. That you only buy on the secondary market is not a valid argument. They still make the cards you intend to buy on the secondary market. So what cards they make will affect what you choose to collect, if anything.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by Dielon

Luber? I barely knew her.

Brilliant!

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Not really. Saying "it won't affect me" is not debating anything. Tell me how what Fanatics does with cards, since they will literally be the only company with the license, won't affect you. That you only buy on the secondary market is not a valid argument. They still make the cards you intend to buy on the secondary market. So what cards they make will affect what you choose to collect, if anything.

Yes really. It’s being debated right now before your eyes.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Yes really. It’s being debated right now before your eyes.

Debated: I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Something being undebatable doesn't mean someone can't throw out absurd and incorrect statements about it.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by rms13

My thoughts are who cares?

If this doesn't get you excited...then you hate the hobby! Luber was a horrible choice to run the sports card division for Fanatics. Funny how the hobby knew it well before the suits writing the check did. Luber's nothing more than a con artist (just like his friends Gary Vee, Backyard Breaks, etc).

[Boo]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

If this doesn't get you excited...then you hate the hobby! Luber was a horrible choice to run the sports card division for Fanatics. Funny how the hobby knew it well before the suits writing the check did. Luber's nothing more than a con artist (just like his friends Gary Vee, Backyard Breaks, etc).

I had no clue who Luber was until I looked him up. What he says or does has zero impact on what/how I collect.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Debated: I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Something being undebatable doesn't mean someone can't throw out absurd and incorrect statements about it.

Unless they're going to stop making baseball cards of baseball players, its really not going to affect the "collector". It can have a huge impact on the distributor/breaker/reseller/flipper.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

If this doesn't get you excited...then you hate the hobby! Luber was a horrible choice to run the sports card division for Fanatics. Funny how the hobby knew it well before the suits writing the check did. Luber's nothing more than a con artist (just like his friends Gary Vee, Backyard Breaks, etc).

Hopefully, they place an adult into the position.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Zero impact on me. I only buy singles after the gamblers over pay and then dump for cheap to pay their credit debts.

Damn straight

[rms13]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Doesn't matter. If you intend to buy what Fanatics makes, regardless of when or at what price, it WILL affect you. What if they only make product you don't like at all? I have a feeling that will affect what you buy. It's absurd to suggest that the company making the product you intend to buy will have no affect on what you buy. I don't even understand how you can possibly think that's true.

They’re going to make Topps cards and that’s fine with me

[Philthy]

Originally Posted by JRX

Not really, the individual collector is in charge of what their hobby is. The flipper should care. Nobody at topps/fanatics is in charge of what my hobby is.

If you collect/open new cards then this just isn't true. They decide what cards are produced, the price of those releases, etc.

If you only collect older cards/players, sure...but otherwise your statement doesn't make sense.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by JRX

Unless they're going to stop making baseball cards of baseball players, its really not going to affect the "collector". It can have a huge impact on the distributor/breaker/reseller/flipper.

Which they literally could do.

And even if they don't completely stop making them, literally the only way for it not to affect your collecting at all is if you literally don't care about the product at all. And if that's the case, are you really a collector? A collector collects what they like. Which by definition requires you to evaluate a product and choose what you like. But in your scenario, it doesn't matter what the product is, as long as it exists.

So which is it? Are you a collector, where what cards Fanatics makes matters to you? Or are you not a collector, who doesn't care what the card is, you'll buy it anyway?