James Harden to the Clippers - A Halloween Special - Page 2

6celtics33 · 10-31-2023, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PKIPP

To be honest this gives me 1998 NWO vibes, and I totally dig it.

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Unfortunately it’ll be the late iterations like Wolfpack or whatever came after. Original nwo was Lebron Wade and bosh.

6celtics33 · 10-31-2023, 08:06 AM

I can’t even look at it. Hate it for Kawhi.

jcardstore · 10-31-2023, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Yeah, I wanted to see how far in it was before he brought his guy up.

Then I stopped.

#1 Clippers fan here!!!

packman80 · 10-31-2023, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneychrome20

Your argument lost all credibility within seconds because he has average over 25 within last 5 seasons and just led the nba in assist last year

Do you even look stuff up before you type

Obviously not

Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.

packman80 · 10-31-2023, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PKIPP

I mean either way you want to look at this, you just flat out lied for the sake of your own personal vendetta.. He played 65 in 2021-22 and averaged 34+ in 2019-20.

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Ok the last 4 years then he has failed to play in 60 games or more. Or maybe you just want to nit pick because you love Harden who's a NBA cancer.

Moneychrome20 · 10-31-2023, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.

Clearly u a lie go look up stats before u type them. Fool

JustinVerlander07 · 10-31-2023, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.

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Originally Posted by packman80

Ok the last 4 years then he has failed to play in 60 games or more. Or maybe you just want to nit pick because you love Harden who's a NBA cancer.

Love it. When proven wrong this is how you act. Nothing new for you!

There's been nothing to suggest he's a locker room cancer as much as I wouldn't want him anywhere on my team because he'll cry and want out a year later. But there's been little so far to suggest his teammates from Houston/Brooklyn/Philly thought he was a cancer.

tconte · 10-31-2023, 09:11 AM

As a Sixers fan, I am so glad the dough boy is gone. He's not a winner.

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 10:42 AM

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fumanchu · 10-31-2023, 10:43 AM

as a clippers fan, i am not happy. i feel like this will ruin the chemistry.

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rustywest

As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.

The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.

I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.

Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.

Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.

So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.

A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.

Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.

Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).

KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.

Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.

Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!

I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?

tldr version: bringing Harden to a team is detrimental

strain r n is rainbow belts 3.0

asujbl · 10-31-2023, 10:45 AM

Most “experts” love what the Sixers got so that’s interesting

Simmons mentioned up to 100M in expiring contracts to bring in someone better? I didn’t confirm those numbers but damn

Plus the picks

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 10:52 AM

Beard Harden holds a certain kind of tabloid-like fascination with NBA fans, he epitomizes a bunch of what people dislike about the game (although when you see his prime-years ISO highlight reels, not coupled with his Shaqtin' reel......., you can see why he was in yearly MVP discussions, and not just balloting discussions but top-dog honors).
he flops
he Shaqtin's
he chokes
he quits
he's no longer in his prime
perhaps morey is still a liar and no one should play for him

49ersSF · 10-31-2023, 11:14 AM

Great trade for Philly.

They got rid of a team cancer and two contracts that still had 2 years left for 4 expiring contracts that can be much more easily moved before the deadline to a team looking to move players for expiring contracts. Of course they added some draft stock as well.

yiguiri2002 · 10-31-2023, 11:37 AM

I don't get why people are hating on the Sixers side of the trade.

Harden's an expiring making 35M. PJ is pretty much washed and still making over 10M the next two years. How much was Harden getting this past offseason on a 1 year deal? I don't think he would have gotten even 40M.

They take on 30M of "dead money" for two first rounders and a pick swap. RoCo and KJ are decent rotation players, specially for the money.

I think this also puts them in a prime position to trade Tobi and some of those picks for a better player.

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 11:45 AM

so you pair up one of the most klutch players of all time in Kawhi, with an all-time choker in Beard, it becomes like an irresistable force meets immovable object if they're both healthy come playoff time?

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 11:47 AM

Ballmer gonna put up with Beard's choking ways?

GOATcards · 10-31-2023, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

Beard Harden holds a certain kind of tabloid-like fascination with NBA fans, he epitomizes a bunch of what people dislike about the game (although when you see his prime-years ISO highlight reels, not coupled with his Shaqtin' reel......., you can see why he was in yearly MVP discussions, and not just balloting discussions but top-dog honors).
he flops
he Shaqtin's
he chokes
he quits
he's no longer in his prime
perhaps morey is still a liar and no one should play for him

omg this blooper reel is 14 minutes long

oldgoldy97 · 10-31-2023, 12:22 PM

What was your best attribute as an NBA player?

I was a great expiring contract.

Nomad · 10-31-2023, 01:49 PM

I am prolly among the few that believe that Kawhi, whom I often compare with crash, will be successful in putting Harden to work.

mfw13 · 10-31-2023, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rustywest

the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones.

The problem with offensive firepower is that there is still only one basketball, and only one person can shoot it at a time....

Personally, I think Harden and his iso-ball are much more likely to hurt the Clippers offense than help it....

ninjacookies · 10-31-2023, 07:33 PM

Strangely enough, I think this experiment may somewhat work.

He's an LA native, and Ballmer has pretty much been without incident when it comes to player relations.

And he's great personal friends with WB.

Yes, the risk always exists with strip club patron, but if it's one place that could possibly somewhat salvage his PR relations - it's LA.

It's not like he's completely washed. He's consistently been a top 3 distributor for the greater part of this last decade and still chips in 20+ a night.

rats60 · 10-31-2023, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATcards

Ballmer gonna put up with Beard's choking ways?

He already traded for Westbrook.

cms11 · 10-31-2023, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

I am prolly among the few that believe that Kawhi, whom I often compare with crash, will be successful in putting Harden to work.

It's either going to work or blow up spectacularly.

shakobe · 10-31-2023, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

He already traded for Westbrook.

No he didn’t. Westbrook was bought out by the Jazz and he signed a min deal or something like that to go to the Clippers

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yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,260 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	I don't get why people are hating on the Sixers side of the trade. Harden's an expiring making 35M. PJ is pretty much washed and still making over 10M the next two years. How much was Harden getting this past offseason on a 1 year deal? I don't think he would have gotten even 40M. They take on 30M of "dead money" for two first rounders and a pick swap. RoCo and KJ are decent rotation players, specially for the money. I think this also puts them in a prime position to trade Tobi and some of those picks for a better player. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

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10-31-2023, 08:06 AM	#27
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,254	I can’t even look at it. Hate it for Kawhi.

10-31-2023, 10:43 AM	#35
fumanchu Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 287	as a clippers fan, i am not happy. i feel like this will ruin the chemistry.

10-31-2023, 10:52 AM	#38
GOATcards Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 6,492	Beard Harden holds a certain kind of tabloid-like fascination with NBA fans, he epitomizes a bunch of what people dislike about the game (although when you see his prime-years ISO highlight reels, not coupled with his Shaqtin' reel......., you can see why he was in yearly MVP discussions, and not just balloting discussions but top-dog honors). he flops he Shaqtin's he chokes he quits he's no longer in his prime perhaps morey is still a liar and no one should play for him

10-31-2023, 11:45 AM	#41
GOATcards Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 6,492	so you pair up one of the most klutch players of all time in Kawhi, with an all-time choker in Beard, it becomes like an irresistable force meets immovable object if they're both healthy come playoff time?

10-31-2023, 11:47 AM	#42
GOATcards Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 6,492	Ballmer gonna put up with Beard's choking ways?

10-31-2023, 12:22 PM	#44
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 49,202	What was your best attribute as an NBA player? I was a great expiring contract.

10-31-2023, 01:49 PM	#45
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 7,867	I am prolly among the few that believe that Kawhi, whom I often compare with crash, will be successful in putting Harden to work.