Potential Worth of Soccer Cards as Market Grows

[sambruin98]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

isn't it a best offer price? Nowadays ebay doesn't show the actual price.

glad that i picked one up earlier.

It still sold for $1k. You can use a site like 130point.com to find accepted best offer prices.

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

He is mostly linked with manchester united and since i am manchester united fan, i want him at the club. We are short of a right winger for many years now and he would fit in perfectly there. He is a very creative player and i think he should stay as a winger or a forward as a player like him is always better at creating chances.being a striker will limit that and maybe later in his career he can improvise like ronaldo.

I agree that having him at striker would limit his creative abilities. Sancho at Man U would certainly put his skills in the spotlight. I know that’s certainly been the buzz. Hope that your wish comes true!


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[fadster]

A word of caution we are around season ticket renewal time so the clubs start leaking about who they "might" sign for next year to get bums on seats. He would be a great fit for Man Utd on the right wing but it would make the Daniel James signing look a bit odd.

On a related note with the current pandemic clubs are talking about having to spend less on fees and wages, there are big issues with unfulfilled TV deals and fewer gate receipts. This might mean big names avoid transfers this off season and wait a couple of years before moving on. The wages they'd be offered now as well as the signing-on bonuses, agent cut, etc will all be lower than usual. Perhaps the likes of Sancho will wait a bit longer to move?

[Nobody0211]

Originally Posted by fadster

A word of caution we are around season ticket renewal time so the clubs start leaking about who they "might" sign for next year to get bums on seats. He would be a great fit for Man Utd on the right wing but it would make the Daniel James signing look a bit odd.

On a related note with the current pandemic clubs are talking about having to spend less on fees and wages, there are big issues with unfulfilled TV deals and fewer gate receipts. This might mean big names avoid transfers this off season and wait a couple of years before moving on. The wages they'd be offered now as well as the signing-on bonuses, agent cut, etc will all be lower than usual. Perhaps the likes of Sancho will wait a bit longer to move?

Are you a United season ticket holder?

[fadster]

No, I should have been clear I meant for the Premier League and football in general. I'm an Arsenal member, been on the season ticket waiting list forever but when I was eventually offered a season ticket I couldn't take it just yet for a couple of reasons. I've been deferring it for a couple of seasons but was thinking of taking it up for next season. With everything that is going on it might mean I get a better choice of seats.

[Nobody0211]

Originally Posted by fadster

No, I should have been clear I meant for the Premier League and football in general. I'm an Arsenal member, been on the season ticket waiting list forever but when I was eventually offered a season ticket I couldn't take it just yet for a couple of reasons. I've been deferring it for a couple of seasons but was thinking of taking it up for next season. With everything that is going on it might mean I get a better choice of seats.

Ahhh, even worse.

Ive been following United for almost 25 years and can never make it to Old Trafford. Its the 1 thing in life that I want(personally)

[Ianhatcher]

I admit I haven't watched too much of Sancho but what I have seen for England is he normally plays on the right (because of Rashford) but for BvB he plays as a left winger. Someone who watches him more may know more about his skillset but if he can do that without skipping a beat that makes him even more valuable and could fit in just about anywhere then.

As to CR7 being a striker not sure I would agree with that at Real Madrid. He was a left winger and Benzema was the striker but if anything I guess you could have called him a withdrawn striker or inverted striker but he was never a pure striker there. That was Benzema.

Don't really want to derail the thread even more so maybe best to get back to card talk but I think where all these players go Mbappe, Sancho and Haaland will have a huge impact on their card values. If Mbappe goes to Real for example his cards will explode even more and the same can be said of Sancho to ManU so watching the transfer market is a good idea. You have to wonder if first cards in their new uniforms will become a thing like basketball where for example Lebron in Lakers uni rookie is very collectible.

[jrg1128]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

I admit I haven't watched too much of Sancho but what I have seen for England is he normally plays on the right (because of Rashford) but for BvB he plays as a left winger. Someone who watches him more may know more about his skillset but if he can do that without skipping a beat that makes him even more valuable and could fit in just about anywhere then.

As to CR7 being a striker not sure I would agree with that at Real Madrid. He was a left winger and Benzema was the striker but if anything I guess you could have called him a withdrawn striker or inverted striker but he was never a pure striker there. That was Benzema.

Don't really want to derail the thread even more so maybe best to get back to card talk but I think where all these players go Mbappe, Sancho and Haaland will have a huge impact on their card values. If Mbappe goes to Real for example his cards will explode even more and the same can be said of Sancho to ManU so watching the transfer market is a good idea. You have to wonder if first cards in their new uniforms will become a thing like basketball where for example Lebron in Lakers uni rookie is very collectible.

I collect Pulisic and I personally like his USA and new Chelsea cards better than his Dortmund cards. I don't pick up any of his BVB cards any more (except his Donruss Debut). This is one reason I like the Rated Rookie for Sancho more than the Topps Chrome for BVB.

But in the end, true rookie will win no matter what jersey they are wearing.

[IndySportsCards]

Wow, 2019 Topps Chrome is now $150 a box.. We were buying these for $60 a box for the last 4-5 months. Nice to be ahead of the curve for a change.

[fadster]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Wow, 2019 Topps Chrome is now $150 a box.. We were buying these for $60 a box for the last 4-5 months. Nice to be ahead of the curve for a change.

It's crazy, they were sat at $63/£48 from Topps direct for ages. Glad I managed to at least bust one case.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Don't really want to derail the thread even more so maybe best to get back to card talk but I think where all these players go Mbappe, Sancho and Haaland will have a huge impact on their card values.

Yes and no. They also have to be successful and win trophies with their new (bigger) clubs.

A perfect example of someone for whom a move to a bigger club didn't work out is Christian Bale. He was a star at Tottenham and on of the best players in the EPL, but has become an afterthought at Real Madrid.

Ousama Dembele has struggled at Barcelona after being a star for Dortmund. James Rodriguez never lived up to his hype at Real Madrid.

Lots of players struggle mightily when moving to a bigger club and higher level of competition, and many never get the playing time needed to live up to their previous hype.

I wouldn't touch Mpabbe cards with a 10-foot pole at these prices...he's never played outside of Ligue 1, which is basically a second tier league compared to the EPL or La Liga.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Yes and no. They also have to be successful and win trophies with their new (bigger) clubs.

A perfect example of someone for whom a move to a bigger club didn't work out is Christian Bale. He was a star at Tottenham and on of the best players in the EPL, but has become an afterthought at Real Madrid.

Ousama Dembele has struggled at Barcelona after being a star for Dortmund. James Rodriguez never lived up to his hype at Real Madrid.

Lots of players struggle mightily when moving to a bigger club and higher level of competition, and many never get the playing time needed to live up to their previous hype.

I wouldn't touch Mpabbe cards with a 10-foot pole at these prices...he's never played outside of Ligue 1, which is basically a second tier league compared to the EPL or La Liga.

I was talking about the immediate effect of a player transferring and how that correlates to card value as I said in the following sentence that you did not quote. If Sancho transferred to ManU it would cause an immediate boom in his card prices imo much like Mbappe if he transferred to a bigger club like Real. My point was watching the transfer market is a good idea but of course they have to perform well once they are there.

I would agree though Christian Bale did not work out well at RM even though I liked him in Batman Gareth Bale though was a huge success there in my opinion as a fan of the team. His problem was two fold. He played in the shadow of CR7 and he was on a national team that wasn't a contender in Wales.

But yes, watch splashing money on players just because they make a big transfer is good advice and James is probably one of the best examples of that. I wasn't collecting then but I heard people went in big on him and we all know how that worked out.

[AFCBCards]

Originally Posted by mfw13

A perfect example of someone for whom a move to a bigger club didn't work out is Christian Bale. He was a star at Tottenham and on of the best players in the EPL, but has become an afterthought at Real Madrid.

He really hit the big time when he quit football and became Batman though!

[k13]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Yes and no. They also have to be successful and win trophies with their new (bigger) clubs.

A perfect example of someone for whom a move to a bigger club didn't work out is Christian Bale. He was a star at Tottenham and on of the best players in the EPL, but has become an afterthought at Real Madrid.

Ousama Dembele has struggled at Barcelona after being a star for Dortmund. James Rodriguez never lived up to his hype at Real Madrid.

Lots of players struggle mightily when moving to a bigger club and higher level of competition, and many never get the playing time needed to live up to their previous hype.

I wouldn't touch Mpabbe cards with a 10-foot pole at these prices...he's never played outside of Ligue 1, which is basically a second tier league compared to the EPL or La Liga.

Don't forget Hazard being a turd after transfer.
Grizman
Pogba
Pulisic
Coutinho

Pretty much every High Price transfer will be a letdown and the player won't meet expectations and will be forgotten about in a few years.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by AFCBCards

He really hit the big time when he quit football and became Batman though!

My bad....obviously I meant Gareth Bale.....

[Akphillips86]

Man, it’s a shame that no young talent or transfers will ever pan out. Let’s just forget about soccer altogether. Why do we even bother? Just turn off the TVs after Messi and CR7 leave the game because everyone else will be worthless I tell you, worthless! The sport is doomed, the hobby is doomed. Mbappe is trash, Sancho is trash, Fati is garbage along with Vinicius, Havertz, Foden. No future, no hope. Just pack it up and go home.

Sorry just felt like jumping in on the pessimism


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[Jeff1970Red]

Definitely get that vibe from a number of soccer collectors...we should just put a gun to our heads.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Jeff1970Red

Definitely get that vibe from a number of soccer collectors...we should just put a gun to our heads.

Or just learn to ignore them and do your own research and make your own decisions

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

Man, it’s a shame that no young talent or transfers will ever pan out. Let’s just forget about soccer altogether. Why do we even bother? Just turn off the TVs after Messi and CR7 leave the game because everyone else will be worthless I tell you, worthless! The sport is doomed, the hobby is doomed. Mbappe is trash, Sancho is trash, Fati is garbage along with Vinicius, Havertz, Foden. No future, no hope. Just pack it up and go home.

Sorry just felt like jumping in on the pessimism


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It's not that at all....most of these prospects will turn out to be pretty good players.

It's just that their prices have gotten way ahead of their level of achievement. Their cards are being priced as if they are already all-time greats.

To put things in perspective, Harry Kane has already won a WC Golden Boot, led Tottenham to their best ever Premier League finish (2nd), led them to their first ever Champion's League Final, led England to their best WC finish in 28 years, and is on track to likely finish either 2nd/3rd on the Premier League all-time goal chart (behind Shearer and maybe Aguero).

And his autos can easily be found for around $50.

Jadon Sancho has never played at an international tournament for England, yet his first autos will go for $300-500.....5x-10x what Kane's go for. That's simply crazy....if everything goes perfectly for Sancho, he MIGHT have as good a career as Kane has had.

People like me are reacting to the crazy prices, not to the talent of these players.

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by mfw13

It's not that at all....most of these prospects will turn out to be pretty good players.

It's just that their prices have gotten way ahead of their level of achievement. Their cards are being priced as if they are already all-time greats.

To put things in perspective, Harry Kane has already won a WC Golden Boot, led Tottenham to their best ever Premier League finish (2nd), led them to their first ever Champion's League Final, led England to their best WC finish in 28 years, and is on track to likely finish either 2nd/3rd on the Premier League all-time goal chart (behind Shearer and maybe Aguero).

And his autos can easily be found for around $50.

Jadon Sancho has never played at an international tournament for England, yet his first autos will go for $300-500.....5x-10x what Kane's go for. That's simply crazy....if everything goes perfectly for Sancho, he MIGHT have as good a career as Kane has had.

People like me are reacting to the crazy prices, not to the talent of these players.

That’s fair, and I apologize for making a straw man out of your stance. You know your soccer and I respect you for that.

First, I think Kane is fantastic and undervalued, but I don’t set the prices on his cards, the market does. If I was a soccer manager I would be elated to have Kane on my club.

The hobby loves flash, creativity, and excitement not just goal scoring. Although his off field antics greatly hurt him as well as his physical decline, when Ronaldinho was in his prime, he embodied what the market craves. You couldn’t take your eyes off him once he had the ball because you didn’t want to miss something great.

This is why I think Sancho has the potential to be far more valuable than Kane. It’s less about the stat sheet and more about the magnetic quality of his style of play. Yes, stats matter as well as achievements, but that IT factor that Sancho has is what makes collectors excited.


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[peterose4hof]

I need the following cards to finish my

2018-19 Donruss Red Press Proof Set

3, 9, 19, 30, 42, 45, 51, 61, 87, 99, 100, 101, 106,
130, 135, 140, 142, 147, 166, 170, 174

I'd be happy to buy them if anyone can help.

Or I have tons of extra Press Proof, Holo, Optic, Base & Inserts if someone is filling sets and wants to trade.

[bloomie6]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I need the following cards to finish my

2018-19 Donruss Red Press Proof Set

3, 9, 19, 30, 42, 45, 51, 61, 87, 99, 100, 101, 106,
130, 135, 140, 142, 147, 166, 170, 174

I'd be happy to buy them if anyone can help.

Or I have tons of extra Press Proof, Holo, Optic, Base & Inserts if someone is filling sets and wants to trade.

I have a ton of these, I'll look through my boxes and let you know what I have

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by bloomie6

I have a ton of these, I'll look through my boxes and let you know what I have

That would be great. Thanks!

[Akphillips86]

Look at Kane getting some attention. I mean it’s PSA 10 /20, but still nice to see a non auto of his get some love.




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[Jeff1970Red]

Good looking card