1992 MARVEL MASTERPIECES 30th Anniversary Book

[glorbgorb]

FPG is now posting in (at least) one of the Marvel groups on Facebook. For those not on FB, here you go. I don't go check comments on the Kickstarter, so this might be old news.

THE MASTER LIST OF EXTRAS!

HULK CARDS
METAL CARDS:
• 2000 regular cards (Full-color reproduction based on published 1992 Marvel Masterpieces HULK card.)
• Six proofs manufactured before production was green-lighted (Some have handwritten notations.)
• 50 one-of-one variant color cards (Examples: solid red front and back, solid blue, solid purple, etc.)
SOLID BRONZE CARDS:
• 400 regular (No color applied.)
• Two bronze proofs manufactured before production was green-lighted (No number at bottom edge.)
• 25 full-color bronze cards. Numbered “001" through “025.”
• 10 one-of-one solid color (Same color on front and back. Example: pink front with pink back.) Each numbered “001."
• 10 one-of-one “color mash-up” variants. (Example: purple front with green back.) Each numbered “001."
• 15 solid .999 silver cards (Numbered “001" through “015.")


SPIDER-MAN CARDS
SOLID BRONZE CARDS:
• 800 regular (No color applied.)
• Five bronze proofs manufactured before production was green-lighted (No number at bottom edge.)
• 25 full-color bronze cards. Numbered “001" through “025.”
• 10 one-of-one solid color (Same color on front and back. Example: pink front with pink back.) Each numbered “001."
• 10 one-of-one “color mash-up” variants. (Example: purple front with green back.) Each numbered “001."
• 15 solid .999 silver cards (Numbered “001" through “015.")
• Two solid .999 silver proofs—one for the artist and one for the publishers. (Each numbered “000.”)
• One one-of-one solid .999 gold card!


PSYLOCKE CARDS
SOLID BRONZE CARDS:
• 600 regular (No color applied.)
• Two bronze proofs manufactured before production was green-lighted (Each numbered “000.”)
• 25 full-color bronze cards. Numbered “001" through “025."
• 10 one-of-one solid color (Same color on front and back. Example: pink front with pink back.) Each numbered “001."
• 10 one-of-one “color mash-up” variants. (Example: purple front with green back.) Each numbered “001."
• 15 solid .999 silver cards (Numbered “001" through “015.")
SOLID BRONZE “ZOMBIE” CARDS:
• 600 regular (100 cards of each of six different colors of the word, “ZOMBIE.”)
• Four bronze proofs manufactured before production was green-lighted (Handwritten notation possible and numbered “000" on bottom edge.)
• 10 one-of-one solid color (Same color on front and back. Example: orange front with orange back.) Each numbered “001."
• 10 one-of-one “color mash-up” variants. (Example: purple front with green back.) Each numbered “001."

[DynaEtch]

Thanks for the list.

Lines up more or less with what people were thinking. I see the full color Hulk does in fact exist, just hasn’t appeared on eBay. The one surprising thing to me continues to be all these 1 of 1s (solid color bronze for all of them, bi-color as well) and how few of these rarer ones we've seen on the market…ebay at least.

[BobCollects]

I just checked the Kickstarter page. I don't see a new update or any comments with the list. Weird that FPG would go to Facebook and not the official Kickstarter page to finally share the full list.

Also, seeing how many variants there are I'm feeling lucky I ended up with a complete set of the regular solid bronze cards.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

Also, seeing how many variants there are I'm feeling lucky I ended up with a complete set of the regular solid bronze cards.

I do think the sheer number of 1/1s lessens the 1/1 concept, all those color variants for each one. It’s the old printing plate 1/1 dilemma jacked up a few notches.

I’m kinda at a loss what I want to go for past the basics like the zombie set posted above and basic bronzes, if anything. I do like the full-color ones and may be doable since /25 each. You can’t collect a “set” of all that’s here. Was pondering maybe just 1 of each 1/1 genre like the colorized hulk 1/1, but that sounds awfully expensive….i just don’t know.

[BobCollects]

The full color bronze cards are beautiful. A set of those would go nicely with the regular solid bronze cards but too expensive for me.

[Dukefett]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Thanks for the list.

Lines up more or less with what people were thinking. I see the full color Hulk does in fact exist, just hasn’t appeared on eBay. The one surprising thing to me continues to be all these 1 of 1s (solid color bronze for all of them, bi-color as well) and how few of these rarer ones we've seen on the market…ebay at least.

I'm guessing they didn't really randomize it and will send the rarer variants to people that ordered the highest tiers. They still haven't sent out everyone's right?

[HiltonL]

Originally Posted by Dukefett

I'm guessing they didn't really randomize it and will send the rarer variants to people that ordered the highest tiers. They still haven't sent out everyone's right?

As an Original Art round 2 backer, I can say from my own individual experience that this is absolutely not true. Sample size: 1

I had to go on ebay to complete my set of non-color, non-variant, non-one-of-one bronzes

[bub838]

Originally Posted by Dukefett

I'm guessing they didn't really randomize it and will send the rarer variants to people that ordered the highest tiers. They still haven't sent out everyone's right?

Don’t think that’s true. I’m the lowest level and got a /25 full color variant.

[DynaEtch]

Yes I don’t think it’s true, it seems to be random.

I chalk up the lack of rarities to people are holding them. It’s possible also some casual Kickstarter backers may not be following the project super closely and don’t realize what they have in terms of how much it’s worth (like a full color bronze…just think it’s a neat extra that came with the project to keep)….but idk.

[DynaEtch]

So contrary to what eBay authenticity was doing above, these bronze cards look like they are actually not being authenticated, and just being passed on as miscategorized to the buyer. Not a huge difference since they’ll still go to the buyer, but they are being needlessly rerouted to eBay AG. It is interesting they changed the way they dealt with these between upthread and now.

[bub838]

Here comes June around the corner. Reading comments on the kickstarter and Supposedly books will be stateside by end of month?!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by bub838

Here comes June around the corner. Reading comments on the kickstarter and Supposedly books will be stateside by end of month?!

Sounds like there will be an update June 1st. I guess the word now is by end of June, but we’ve heard so much, including just recently end of May.

Some interesting comments about delay reason being Marvel only provided 30% of the painting scans…..very first time Im hearing anything about that….

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Sounds like there will be an update June 1st. I guess the word now is by end of June, but we’ve heard so much, including just recently end of May.

Some interesting comments about delay reason being Marvel only provided 30% of the painting scans…..very first time Im hearing anything about that….

I remember hearing this, I think Jusko might have mentioned it in a YT interview or something like that, maybe the marvel card podcast? cant remember. From memory it was a old friend/colleague or something that had the images however I don't recall him indicating that was causing a delay to the book post kickstarter, I remember getting the impression when they got those image files that was when they decided they could actually do the book so launched the kickstarter. But, I could be mistaken. I watched it ages ago and my memory isn't the best

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Xazark

I remember hearing this, I think Jusko might have mentioned it in a YT interview or something like that, maybe the marvel card podcast? cant remember. From memory it was a old friend/colleague or something that had the images however I don't recall him indicating that was causing a delay to the book post kickstarter, I remember getting the impression when they got those image files that was when they decided they could actually do the book so launched the kickstarter. But, I could be mistaken. I watched it ages ago and my memory isn't the best

Went back to check and you are correct, at the end of podcast episode 150 this is talked about, Marvel only having some of the original scans and most missing, perhaps to do with the bankruptcy. The scans for the 92MM comic book series they did have, but are possibly cropped so lesser quality than the originals. So they had to track down as many missing ones as they could for the book. The comments on Kickstarter were confusing me for the same reason, as they made it seem like this was causing the delay, whereas the only thing we’ve heard to this point has been covid.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Went back to check and you are correct, at the end of podcast episode 150 this is talked about, Marvel only having some of the original scans and most missing, perhaps to do with the bankruptcy. The scans for the 92MM comic book series they did have, but are possibly cropped so lesser quality than the originals. So they had to track down as many missing ones as they could for the book. The comments on Kickstarter were confusing me for the same reason, as they made it seem like this was causing the delay, whereas the only thing we’ve heard to this point has been covid.

It would be quite the move if they went back and retroactively said the reason for the delay was tracking down these original scans when they shouldn't have launched the KS in the first place without them.

[Dukefett]

Originally Posted by bub838

It would be quite the move if they went back and retroactively said the reason for the delay was tracking down these original scans when they shouldn't have launched the KS in the first place without them.

100% makes no sense.

[Fenian95]

New update.

Happy June everyone!


We got confirmation that the books will be landing in our warehouses at the end of this month, middle of next. We have seen the advance copies and they are just gorgeous. When you have the books in your hands, we hope that you will agree that it was, indeed, worth the wait to have such an honor produced for Joe on his incredible first series of MARVEL MASTERPIECES!



Thanks for being a part of this!

[DynaEtch]

It’s good news…what are peoples thoughts if it happens…we’ve been told a lot to this point. Notice its now saying into middle of next month, as opposed to end of this month as was expecting.

[Xazark]

So landing in their warehouses in mid-July, sending out by end of July for non-signed books, receive by August at the earliest I guess. Signed books I assume we have to wait on Jusko's availability to get them all signed, so best case end August I'm guessing.

I mean at this point, another ~2 months isn't really going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things, I'm looking forward to receiving it as a Xmas present

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Xazark

So landing in their warehouses in mid-July, sending out by end of July for non-signed books, receive by August at the earliest I guess. Signed books I assume we have to wait on Jusko's availability to get them all signed, so best case end August I'm guessing.

I mean at this point, another ~2 months isn't really going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things, I'm looking forward to receiving it as a Xmas present

I recall from a previous update the signatures were already done, I think last Dec update. I don’t know how that’s possible if they were printed and are coming from overseas, maybe slip of paper attached or inserted in the book? In any case, if the info was true then the sig portion shouldn’t be any additional time. Hard to tell what’s true in terms of earlier comments now though.

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I recall from a previous update the signatures were already done, I think last Dec update. I don’t know how that’s possible if they were printed and are coming from overseas, maybe slip of paper attached or inserted in the book? In any case, if the info was true then the sig portion shouldn’t be any additional time. Hard to tell what’s true in terms of earlier comments now though.

I had a look back through the updates and couldn't find any mention of it, maybe it was in the comments section, which I haven't combed through. If the auto turns out to just be a sticker on a page, I will be supremely disappointed.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Xazark

I had a look back through the updates and couldn't find any mention of it, maybe it was in the comments section, which I haven't combed through. If the auto turns out to just be a sticker on a page, I will be supremely disappointed.

Update #14 in Dec, response from FPG
"NO further printing delays. Now it's all about the shipping times in the water. THE MOMENT we have a closer to arriving date you can believe we'll post it.

Signatures have been done, paintings have been completed etc."

I vaguely remember them saying it elsewhere too, probably in the comments. Not sure how that works with oversea printing. Also some comments about parts of book printed from vegas to FL...all over (dont know if true. In fact there is a lot not known)

[BobCollects]

When I have the book, I'll have the book. Until then, FPG's updates mean nothing,.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

When I have the book, I'll have the book. Until then, FPG's updates mean nothing,.

If an new delivery date for a way-late Kickstarter book campaign is dismissed or ignored, did it ever actually happen?

Let your mind feast on that thought experiment.

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

If an new delivery date for a way-late Kickstarter book campaign is dismissed or ignored, did it ever actually happen?

Let your mind feast on that thought experiment.

Its entirely possible they are still waiting for that tree to fall in the forest, so they can turn it into paper for the books

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Update #14 in Dec, response from FPG
"NO further printing delays. Now it's all about the shipping times in the water. THE MOMENT we have a closer to arriving date you can believe we'll post it.

Signatures have been done, paintings have been completed etc."

Thanks - I should have just checked the comments for the Dec post instead of reading all of the updates for the last 12mths

Maybe the auto is not on the book itself, on the slipcase or something. I've asked them the question for them to clarify hopefully get a response soon