2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by escapegoat

i wonder if there are any legs on Dak to the Browns via trade. i don’t know how reliable Bruce Drennan is but it’d make a bit more sense why Myles resigned (aside from cashing in obv).

Who is left in the Cowboy QB room now? Just Dak?
I think Ewers will be a Cowboy

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by escapegoat

i wonder if there are any legs on Dak to the Browns via trade. i don’t know how reliable Bruce Drennan is but it’d make a bit more sense why Myles resigned (aside from cashing in obv).

It makes sense that the Browns would sacrifice their draft to try and win now.

Myles, Stefanski, Andrew Berry. Those guys need to win now. Overpay draft picks to roll out Dak, Jeudy, Auyuik, and Nijoku.

Can they pull it off? We shall see.

[Boo]

The Browns are going to end up with Captain Kirk.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Boo

The Browns are going to end up with Captain Kirk.

Anything is better than Deshaun.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by escapegoat

i wonder if there are any legs on Dak to the Browns via trade. i don’t know how reliable Bruce Drennan is but it’d make a bit more sense why Myles resigned (aside from cashing in obv).

Bruce Drennan is a super old man that hasn’t broke a story in 30 years

He’s not reliable

[asujbl]

This tweet said it best for anyone that knows who Bruce Drennan is

“Bruce Drennan walked into work this morning for his 45 minute weekly show and just broke the internet in Cleveland.

Gangster”

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Boo

The Browns are going to end up with Captain Kirk.

Don’t tease me

[packman80]

Originally Posted by escapegoat

i wonder if there are any legs on Dak to the Browns via trade. i don’t know how reliable Bruce Drennan is but it’d make a bit more sense why Myles resigned (aside from cashing in obv).

Whomever was the clown who talked about this trade never heard of athing called the salary cap. A trade takes both QB's SB and puts it to the cap right now. Neither team can afford to take that cap hit. Dak cap hit on a trade is $150 million dollars.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by packman80

Whomever was the clown who talked about this trade never heard of athing called the salary cap. A trade takes both QB's SB and puts it to the cap right now. Neither team can afford to take that cap hit. Dak cap hit on a trade is $150 million dollars.

Like duh, ya know? Watson's contract means you can't spend any significant money at the QB spot. Browns are playing vet minimum guys or rookie contracts at QB for the next two years. They put more void money in 2027 cap to make it work this year. So, Browns are going to want rookie contract QB for the next three years. Watson't cap hit next year as it stands now is 82 million!!

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by packman80

Whomever was the clown who talked about this trade never heard of athing called the salary cap. A trade takes both QB's SB and puts it to the cap right now. Neither team can afford to take that cap hit. Dak cap hit on a trade is $150 million dollars.

The issue with this trade ever happening is the idiots at the tops of these teams. They are 2 of the worst, unsuccessful teams in the past 25 yrs due to the way that the teams are run, and to terrible decision making. Even if a Dak trade helped both teams, and it was fiscally possible, the two teams combined could not figure out how to make it happen

[kipgen]

Of all QBs drafted in the last ten years, how many (and which ones) would you say are "safe" buys? As in, barring injury or unforeseen criminal behavior, you could expect their prices to stay pretty stable for the next five years?

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by kipgen

Of all QBs drafted in the last ten years, how many (and which ones) would you say are "safe" buys? As in, barring injury or unforeseen criminal behavior, you could expect their prices to stay pretty stable for the next five years?

Lol, there are busts ever year.

None of the 2025 ones are "safe" by any means.

For 2024, only probably Nix and Penix were experienced and consistent in college against major opponents...
They'd have been the safest bets to do at least ok and not wash out of the NFL...
but the NFL is still a hugely situation/team game...
and injuries happen all the time.

So yeah, talk of "safe" picks is pretty much nonsense.
Fields was viewed as safe. Zach Wilson. Bryce Young. Many others.

...as for current NFL QBs already in the league? Mahomes is the only one who will be remembered much 10yrs after his retirement.
The cards of other QBs will carry fairly little long term value unless they win - and win soon.
They will end up as the Aaron Rodgers and Eli and Favre and BBen and Matt Ryan and Rivers, etc were in Brady era. [Peyton are ok valued]

If you want to buy other non-Mahomes QBs, have a flip mentality if they make a SB, win MVP, etc... even if they win ROY.
Tough to realize it as it seems he has a golden road ahead, but Jayden Daniels' value may never be higher than it was during last year playoff run and right now. No joke.
Sure, Josh Allen or Lamar might have a shot at HOF, but we'll see. They're still going to end up as also-rans in Mahomes' era.
Burrow is probably the best true talent outside Pat, but he's been hurt a lot.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, there are busts ever year.

None of the 2025 ones are "safe" by any means.

For 2024, only probably Nix and Penix were experienced and consistent in college against major opponents...
They'd have been the safest bets to do at least ok and now wash out of the NFL...
but the NFL is still a hugely situation/team game...
and injuries happen all the time.

So yeah, talk of "safe" picks is pretty much nonsense.
Fields was viewed as safe. Zach Wilson. Bryce Young. Many others.

...as for current NFL QBs already in the league? Mahomes is the only one who will be remembered much 10yrs after his retirement.
The cards of other QBs will carry fairly little long term value unless they win - and win soon.
They will end up as the Aaron Rodgers and Eli and Favre and BBen and Matt Ryan and Rivers, etc were in Brady era. [Peyton are ok valued]

If you want to buy other non-Mahomes QBs, have a flip mentality if they make a SB, win MVP, etc... even if they win ROY.
Tough to realize it as it seems he has a golden road ahead, but Jayden Daniels' value may never be higher than it was during last year playoff run and right now. No joke.
Sure, Josh Allen or Lamar might have a shot at HOF, but we'll see. They're still going to end up as also-rans in Mahomes' era.
Burrow is probably the best true talent outside Pat, but he's been hurt a lot.

Lamar with his 2 MVPs is close to being a shoe in for the HOF.

In a few years when Josh Allen gets to 100 rushing touchdowns to go along with his 300+ passing touchdowns, as well as his MVP and anything else he might accomplish along the way, he'll be a shoe in as well. Both those guys are just 28 with good teams set up around them and should rack up wins for years to come.

But I don't disagree with you too much about the hobby. There's not much room at the top to be remembered, and it might not happen for everyone you listed.

[CorndogWasp]

MVP is decided mostly by the establishment sports media milieu. Its group think. No one should be getting into the hall of fame based on their milieu opinion. Its of very little value, all milieu opinions are. Most of them work for dying media companies that are dying even harder now that their grant money is gone.

Lamar is just a good QB thats played for a few years and won a few playoff games. Thats it.

[CorndogWasp]

Originally Posted by kipgen

Of all QBs drafted in the last ten years, how many (and which ones) would you say are "safe" buys? As in, barring injury or unforeseen criminal behavior, you could expect their prices to stay pretty stable for the next five years?

For the next 5 years? So you mean you would buy now, hold it for 5 years and then see how much the value has gone up? The answer would be any likable QB that will win a ring in the next 5 years.

I'm not sure what else matters besides besides being a QB thats likable and has a ring. Has to be both, cant be one or the other.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

MVP is decided mostly by the establishment sports media milieu. Its group think. No one should be getting into the hall of fame based on their milieu opinion. Its of very little value, all milieu opinions are. Most of them work for dying media companies that are dying even harder now that their grant money is gone.

Lamar is just a good QB thats played for a few years and won a few playoff games. Thats it.

Where did this person come from? Wild times at Blowout in 2025

[CorndogWasp]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Where did this person come from? Wild times at Blowout in 2025

People who get to vote for MVP wear that title with pride, they like that they are have it, they like people know they have it, its a cool title to have. They like the social aspect and the luncheons and all the clout freebies that goes with it.

In 2023 one guy went against the grain and voted JA instead of Lamar and talking heads like Stephen A publicly reprimanded him in a rant on TV (if thats how you want to put it) You think that guy wants that to happen to him again? No he wants to be apart of the milieu. He will NEVER go against the grain again.

Awards are BS and don't translate to who is actually great on the field. Its inaccurate.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

People who get to vote for MVP wear that title with pride, they like that they are have it, they like people know they have it, its a cool title to have. They like the social aspect and the luncheons and all the clout freebies that goes with it.

In 2023 one guy went against the grain and voted JA instead of Lamar and talking heads like Stephen A publicly reprimanded him in a rant on TV (if thats how you want to put it) You think that guy wants that to happen to him again? No he wants to be apart of the milieu. He will NEVER go against the grain again.

Awards are BS and don't translate to who is actually great on the field. Its inaccurate.

Yikes

Side note… you’re the person

Whack job

[CorndogWasp]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Yikes

Side note… you’re the person

Whack job

Then it should be very easy for you to simply say how I'm wrong or inaccurate.

Right?

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

Then it should be very easy for you to simply say how I'm wrong or inaccurate.

Right?

Fyi, the sooner you put that guy on ignore, sooner you win.

All I saw him do was try to brag about PSA 10s of Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russel, Tim Couch, etc... lol.

Then, he tries to insult and bait ppl nonstop. Simply put him on ignore (joint the club), and move on.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Fyi, the sooner you put that guy on ignore, sooner you win.

All I saw him do was try to brag about PSA 10s of Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russel, Tim Couch, etc... lol.

Then, he tries to insult and bait ppl nonstop. Simply put him on ignore (joint the club), and move on.

Love you

[Fulmer4MVP]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Where did this person come from? Wild times at Blowout in 2025

Its another account for Slyguy, dude probably has like 4 or 5 accounts on here.

[CorndogWasp]

Is Slyguy also someone who has points both of you cant counter?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Where did this person come from? Wild times at Blowout in 2025

Wild for sure

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

Is Slyguy also someone who has points both of you cant counter?

Here’s a list to get you started.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/search...rchid=50508551