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Old 07-01-2021, 09:37 AM   #8051
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Judging from the replay they showed last night, I didn't see CP3 say anything when he walked by. He did stare at Beverly and maybe he said something earlier, but I agree with others. Beverly should be suspended to start next season.
I don't care if CP3 said anything to him. If you can dish it, you can take it. That was a really weak move on Pat.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:41 AM   #8052
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I don't care if CP3 said anything to him. If you can dish it, you can take it. That was a really weak move on Pat.
I totally agree. I know Beverly is only in the league because he has fought hard to get here, but he loses his cool way too often and has a history of non-basketball plays. He has to learn to play with a chip on his shoulder without being stupid.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:43 AM   #8053
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Ok, so basically cp3 is a glorified superstar and is on commercials, etc. He's the face of the NBA and he is a very very very good PG. Obvious HOFer and probable first ballot.

The other side to this is CP3's reactions usually don't match with what happens on the court.

Beverly should be suspended several games next year.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:14 AM   #8054
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What a peformance by CP3 - glad he's finally made it to the promised land. I think some new blood in the Finals is a good thing
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:34 AM   #8055
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Since Tilman Fertitta proclaimed Chris Paul’s contract was “the worst that he'd ever seen in business or sports,” Paul has had two All-Star, All-NBA seasons and is in the Finals. Meanwhile, Tilman’s Rockets will be paying John Wall $91M over the next two years.
CP's resurgence also lets us look back on more buffoonery from Fertitta... and it's notable that CP3 is now in the Finals before Harden
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:39 AM   #8056
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I always thought Deron Williams was better than CP3 but I was most definitely wrong. Always liked Williams on Utah but dude just had no longevity in the league - crazy he's been out of the league for 4 seasons while CP3 is still balling and now in the finals - still as the star point guard.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:42 AM   #8057
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Every time I start to root for CP3 to get his first title, he flops like that and makes me want him to lose some more.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night. The more I watch him, the more he's proves himself to be a small version of Blake Griffin.
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Old 07-01-2021, 10:59 AM   #8058
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If flopping isn't your jam, trying to find a rooting interest in Hawks/Suns (Trae/CP3) is going to be difficult. They're two of the worst offenders in the league.

Edit: Under the hypothetical that the Hawks make the Finals.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:07 AM   #8059
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If flopping isn't your jam, trying to find a rooting interest in Hawks/Suns (Trae/CP3) is going to be difficult. They're two of the worst offenders in the league.

Edit: Under the hypothetical that the Hawks make the Finals.
Besides the few times a game Trae tries to draw fouls from bad rules he really isn’t ending up on the floor much from flopping, and isn’t even in the same realm as CP3 when it comes to throwing himself back and flailing to sell it or falling to the floor on every drive as a giant.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:09 AM   #8060
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Besides the few times a game Trae tries to draw fouls from bad rules he really isn’t ending up on the floor much from flopping, and isn’t even in the same realm as CP3 when it comes to throwing himself back and flailing to sell it or falling to the floor on every drive as a giant.

Embiid was a flopper, Trae is a bit of a foul merchant but he doesn't flop


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Old 07-01-2021, 11:15 AM   #8061
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You guys must not watch the nba much because its the new norm, been like that for quite sometime. On almost every shot someone winds up on the floor... I prefer the flop over the constant arguing over every single call thats made. That's also ridiculous, not to mention the review process is painful, get rid of it.

I also think it happens in other sports as well... take a look at the NFL...

Admittedly, he does "sell" it a little too much so I could see how it bothers people.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:22 AM   #8062
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In regards to the flopping, and I know some of you are going to say it is a bias opinion, but you rarely see anyone on the Bucks flopping/falling down on offense (or defense for that matter). Maybe that is something the Bucks should incorporate because it seems to work often.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:27 AM   #8063
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Crazy to think the Suns are in the finals. Everything has lined up for them perfectly. Imagine if they play the Bucks without Giannis.

Lakers - AD injury
Nuggets - Murray injury
Clippers - Kawhi injury
Bucks - Giannis injury

Still hoping the Hawks can do this. Suns have been the healthiest team so far it seems.

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Old 07-01-2021, 11:32 AM   #8064
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Crazy to think the Suns are in the finals. Everything has lined up for them perfectly. Imagine if they ply the Bucks without Giannis.

Lakers - AD injury
Nuggets - Murray injury
Clippers - Kawhi injury
Bucks - Giannis injury

Still hoping the Hawks can do this. Suns have been the healthiest team so far it seems.
And even then..they've survived some scares with CP3 (shoulder in round 1..covid forced him to miss first two conference finals games)
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:38 AM   #8065
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Crazy to think the Suns are in the finals. Everything has lined up for them perfectly. Imagine if they ply the Bucks without Giannis.

Lakers - AD injury
Nuggets - Murray injury
Clippers - Kawhi injury
Bucks - Giannis injury

Still hoping the Hawks can do this. Suns have been the healthiest team so far it seems.
I hope this doesn't become the main narrative.... You can only beat the opponent in front of you, and can't fault the suns for being healthy. That being said, ideally whoever comes out of east is mostly intact to ensure a high level of competition.

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Old 07-01-2021, 11:43 AM   #8066
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I hope this doesn't become the main narrative.... You can only beat the opponent in front of you, and can't fault the suns for being healthy. That being said, ideally whoever comes out of east is mostly intact to ensure a high level of competition.

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This will most likely be at least a partial narrative during the summer if the Suns beat a Giannis-less or Trae-less team in the finals, but over time people won’t care as much.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:45 AM   #8067
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I hope this doesn't become the main narrative.... You can only beat the opponent in front of you, and can't fault the suns for being healthy. That being said, ideally whoever comes out of east is mostly intact to ensure a high level of competition.

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Old 07-01-2021, 11:46 AM   #8068
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If the Suns win the championship this year it's still less of an asterisk than the 2019 Raptors, IMO.

Maybe about the same if Trae or Giannis don't play in the finals.
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:53 AM   #8069
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I’m sure it will be talked about but you play who you play. You don’t get to choose. I’m just saying the stars have been aligned for them.
Both Chris Paul and Devin Booker have dealt with issues. Paul was playing left handed with the shoulder and couldn't buy a shot for 2 games, then deals with covid. Booker has his nose broke in 3 places and has to play with a mask which has clearly impacted him. Sucks if your team loses and had to deal with injury but this stuff happens all the time.
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Old 07-01-2021, 12:56 PM   #8070
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If the Suns win the championship this year it's still less of an asterisk than the 2019 Raptors, IMO.

Maybe about the same if Trae or Giannis don't play in the finals.
IMO 2019 Raptors were less of an asterisk than GS winning two after signing Durant
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Old 07-01-2021, 01:05 PM   #8071
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Given how weird and unpredictable this season is, if it's between the Hawks and Suns, I'd rather have ATL win the 2021 championship.


To overcome dissension, multiple injuries and trades; which pulled them down to 11th seed by mid season then turn it around and come this far is just a great NBA story for me.


Hawks doesn't even have an All Star or All NBA player this year. Might be the first in history if they win the title.


Remarkable season.
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Old 07-01-2021, 01:12 PM   #8072
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Given how weird and unpredictable this season is, if it's between the Hawks and Suns, I'd rather have ATL win the 2021 championship.


To overcome dissension, multiple injuries and trades; which pulled them down to 11th seed by mid season then turn it around and come this far is just a great NBA story for me.


Hawks doesn't even have an All Star or All NBA player this year. Might be the first in history if they win the title.


Remarkable season.
It really has been incredible…I don’t think we’re going to see a postseason like this ever again, or at least not for a very long time. Depending on where you rank guys like Book, CP3, or PG13, there was not a single top-10 player in the league that was active in the conference finals once Giannis went down. I can’t imagine that happening again. And from a card market standpoint, what happens to Trae prices compared to Luka prices if the Hawks actually win the title? I think BO might implode on itself.
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Old 07-01-2021, 01:17 PM   #8073
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It really has been incredible…I don’t think we’re going to see a postseason like this ever again, or at least not for a very long time. Depending on where you rank guys like Book, CP3, or PG13, there was not a single top-10 player in the league that was active in the conference finals once Giannis went down. I can’t imagine that happening again. And from a card market standpoint, what happens to Trae prices compared to Luka prices if the Hawks actually win the title? I think BO might implode on itself.
As mentioned, Trae has really grown on me as the season progressed, but he's not dragging the bad news bears to the finals, there is a lot of talent on this hawks team. I would take huerter, Bogdan, Collins and capela (not to mention a healthy hunter) all over whoever is considered to be the number 2 on the mavs.

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Old 07-01-2021, 01:19 PM   #8074
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Besides the few times a game Trae tries to draw fouls from bad rules he really isn’t ending up on the floor much from flopping, and isn’t even in the same realm as CP3 when it comes to throwing himself back and flailing to sell it or falling to the floor on every drive as a giant.
Trae is as bad as it gets in terms of stopping and jumping backwards into contact. It's one of the reasons he's so effective once he drives. If the defender is too aggressive in pursuit from behind, he's savvy enough to get that foul more often than not. If the defender isn't as aggressive, the lob and clean floater are there. If it makes you feel better that he gets to the line that way instead of dropping to the ground, then by all means... rest easy.
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Old 07-01-2021, 01:20 PM   #8075
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Crazy to think the Suns are in the finals. Everything has lined up for them perfectly.
i think for any team that wins a championship, everything lines up perfectly. same applies to teams that lose.

as a Spurs fan, i still think of the knee injury to Duncan the year after we won the championship.

i also think of the Derek Anderson (Spurs) injury against Dallas, Draymond Green getting suspened in the Finals, Klay's injury against Toronto and Kyrie's injury when he was in Cleveland.

and to go a little off topic, i know the Eagles beat the Patriots without Wentz at QB, but people forget the Patriots played that game without their starting MLB, Edelman, and lost Brandin Cooks in the first half of that shootout of a game, which probably goes to the Pats if they had all three. the next year, the Patriots had Hightower and Edelman back, and they came back from 28-3 to beat Atlanta.

it is what it is i guess. sports can be so beautiful and so tough at the same time.
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